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Why 9-5 Wont Work For Millennials
Linkedin ^ | 6-30-14 | Kern Carter

Posted on 06/30/2014 3:55:31 PM PDT by dynachrome

My mother is sixty something and anxiously counting down the days till she could retire her nurses uniform for good. She's been working consistently for 40 years, and when she speaks of retiring I can sense relief still mixed with a bit of anxiety.

The sense of relief is obvious, but it boggles me that after 40 years of dedicated work, rarely calling in sick and in fact winning awards for her diligence and treatment of patients, that my mother is still concerned about whether or not she will be financially secure once she calls it quits.

I see the position my mother is in right now and as much as I admire all that she has done - raising three kids on her own on top of 60 hour work weeks - I look at her and say to myself "that can never be me." I can not, under any circumstances, put in that amount of work to still not feel completely secure about my future. Furthermore, I don't want to wait till the latter years of my life to be able to live with the level of freedom that comes with formal retirement.

Freedom 55 has no appeal to our generation

I believe that I speak for most Millennials when I say 9-5 isn't enough. Please understand that when I use the term 9-5 I use it loosely to refer to restriction. The barriers that accompany the 9-5 life - feeling replaceable, not getting paid according to quality of work, scheduled breaks, the hurdles to really create measurable impact - none of these boundaries are in line with how we Millennials hope to make our mark.

We want more for ourselves, expect more from ourselves, and are willing to put in the work to ensure more is the outcome. But the work we put in can not necesssarily be quantified by hours. We aim to be judged by the impact our output creates, not the time spent in an office or workstation. We want to enjoy our lives to the fullest right now, concurrent to our most social years. Freedom 55 has no appeal to our generation.

And while others may see this as us feeling entitled, I feel that we are, and to a large degree already have, changing the way people, employers, governments define "career." We are entitled to control our own futures, to feel certain that if we work effectively and efficiently that we will be rewarded with financial security.

So call us what you want, but by the time I am sixty something we Millennials will have changed the world more sharply then many generations before us. And we will have done so with a smile on our face every step of the way.

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Kern Carter is the author of "Thoughts of a Fractured Soul," a modern tragedy of family, failed potential and the Millennial struggle with ambition, expectation, and the fight for independence.

More from Kern at www.kerncarter.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Humor
KEYWORDS: 9to5; millenials; work
Some of the comments on young grasshopper are pretty funny.

H/T to Karl Denninger from his fine site:

market-ticker.org

1 posted on 06/30/2014 3:55:31 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Millennials in the Workplace Training Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9clVQu8


2 posted on 06/30/2014 3:58:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: dynachrome

Not to worry. Nobody’s going to give him a job anyway.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 3:59:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: dynachrome

With an attitude like his, I doubt he will be working 9 to 5 much at all.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 3:59:55 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dynachrome

The don’t even know who Jane Fonda and Dabney Coleman are.


5 posted on 06/30/2014 4:01:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: dynachrome

Pajama Boy and Julia would much rather that Uncle Harry, Aunt Nancy, and Cousin Baraq make their pitiful lives as painless as possible.

That’s why I’m not very optimistic about the future of the US. The average millennial knows more about “climate change” than the US Constitution.


6 posted on 06/30/2014 4:03:43 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: dynachrome

There comes a time when every generation realizes its folly in considering itself a new and improved version of its predecessors. By then it’s too late for any real change, but there always is the age-old alternative of taxing the brats into covering your yacht payments.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 4:06:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dynachrome
Freedom 55 has no appeal to our generation

It's all according to what you bring to the table.

If you have a 100 MPH fastball you can probably retire at 35.

But the fact that you are already trying to find something that takes the least effort and time tells me your best bet will be living at the rescue mission.

8 posted on 06/30/2014 4:06:48 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: All
I almost remember when I was young with a head full of mush yet knew beyond a doubt that I had the whole game wired.

But at least I had the good taste not to talk about it in public.

9 posted on 06/30/2014 4:08:52 PM PDT by Proud_texan (Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then. - PK Dick)
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To: dynachrome

Geez. I work non-standard hours, being on-call 24-7.
I work between 42 and 60 hours every week.
I never work 9-5. It’s more like 1am to 4am, then noon-6pm, then 9am the next morning to 3pm and 8pm- 2am. It sounds awful, but it pays more than I’ve ever made before. I make my own schedule, except for emergency calls. As long as I keep the customers happy, nobody in management bothers me.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 4:09:16 PM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: oldbrowser

Or working for government.


11 posted on 06/30/2014 4:12:01 PM PDT by Ultima
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To: dynachrome

All I will say is that actual experience in the work force is the best teacher.

Wait until she has to work for/with someone who has no compunction about stealing or back-stabbing you and claiming credit her work or ideas.

Working 9 to 5 might be a walk in the park in comparison.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 4:12:54 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: dynachrome

lol. These young fools.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:40 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dynachrome
Labor is a supply and demand commodity. If he and his millennials can pull it off, good luck to 'em.
14 posted on 06/30/2014 4:15:37 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: dynachrome
"Furthermore, I don't want to wait till the latter years of my life to be able to live with the level of freedom that comes with formal retirement."

Well, think a scheme and get rich before you get old.

"Freedom 55 has no appeal to our generation"

Laying in a ditch full of snow at the Bulge had no appeal to my great-uncle. New Guinea had no appeal to his brother. The medals those both won also had no appeal to them. Whats your point?

"I believe that I speak for most Millennials when I say 9-5 isn't enough. Please understand that when I use the term 9-5 I use it loosely to refer to restriction. The barriers that accompany the 9-5 life - feeling replaceable, not getting paid according to quality of work, scheduled breaks, the hurdles to really create measurable impact - none of these boundaries are in line with how we Millennials hope to make our mark."

So you don't want structure in your life. Its too hawd for poor baby. You're much too valuable and clever and responsible to be supervised.

"We want more for ourselves, expect more from ourselves,"

And I want a shetland bleeping pony.

"We aim to be judged by the impact our output creates, not the time spent in an office or workstation. We want to enjoy our lives to the fullest right now, concurrent to our most social years."

So you want to be paid more money for less work, on account of how astoundingly valuable your talent is. So you can screw off and get sloshed and baked with your fellow hipster trash on a more regular basis than working. Right.

"Freedom 55 has no appeal to our generation."

Yes, I believe you said that already.

15 posted on 06/30/2014 4:19:37 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: dynachrome

>>Freedom 55 has no appeal to our generation

Freedom 55 didn’t have appeal for my generation either when we were 20 years old. We didn’t want our parents 9-5 jobs. We were going to change the world on our own terms!

Then, we started paying our own bills. We found that being hip and cool and rebellious worked great when mom and dad paid for our car insurance and had us on their corporate health plan.

These Millennials want to do what they want and they demand that someone else pick up the check—because money is something that older people worry about.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 4:22:29 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyranni)
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To: dynachrome

Funny thing is, I kinda agree with him. I’ve never worked 9-5 instead I worked a LOT more than that for 40 years. Worked my way through college as well an still graduated with honors. Was made redundant at 42 and started a company that has, according to most, been very successful and provided very good jobs for me and a lot of others. Still, I don’t feel secure. My life is full of deferred compensations and pleasures. So is my wife’s. We saved like fiends for decades and still we are not secure. Nobody is. Life was not meant for retirement. Only that one little charmed generation enjoyed it and we will all pay for it for ages.


17 posted on 06/30/2014 4:23:42 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Bryanw92

bump
Oh there are lessons to be learned!


18 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: dynachrome

Your mother is not financially secure because she probably gave your spoiled self and your siblings everything your little hearts desired, including an excess of self esteem and a modern-day college “education.” Instead of worrying about how to relax the next 40 years until Social Security (cough-cough) — generously and cheerfully paid for by the dreamy illegals invading our nation — provides you with a cushy retirement, get a job and work your butt off. Try paying your mom back a little for her sacrifices by making her proud.


19 posted on 06/30/2014 4:31:42 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haha! - wait
:(


20 posted on 06/30/2014 4:59:19 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: informavoracious

You mean they are not going through the school of hard knocks. Character is what counts in the end. Those without character get winnowed out pretty fast.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 4:59:37 PM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: dynachrome

Whiny litle dipshit. Now it is true that I will be getting out of my current career at 25 years. But it is also true that the career I chose lets you get out at 25 because it tends to age you prematurely (corrections). I will have a second career, preferably something that isn’t so bad for me. I will probably work at that for 10 to 15 years more. I just can’t do 30 to 35 years in prison (lol). I know of one guy that worked that long. He died of a massive heart attack/stroke driving home from his last day on the job. Not me, I’m not doing that.

CC


22 posted on 06/30/2014 4:59:54 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Celtic Conservative

In Kansas, it’s 8 to 5, so glad I won’t have to be training this goober.


23 posted on 06/30/2014 5:07:38 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: dirtboy

Companies are also pushing work into hours outside of the standard 9-5 window. For example, company issued smart phones mean that they now often ask you to check email or even join in the occasional meeting while on vacation.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 5:15:23 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: nascarnation

“The average millennial knows more about “climate change” than the US Constitution.”

Technically, your statement is incorrect because you imply they know more about one thing than the other, while the truth is they know absolutely nothing about either


25 posted on 06/30/2014 5:18:48 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%i)
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To: dynachrome

Spoiled little brat. He probably lives in mommy’s basement. In fact, I wonder if it was mommy that spoiled him. I wonder where daddy is.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 5:21:59 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: dynachrome

only 2% of people retiring can do so without some form of assistance; either relatives or Government (not Social Security, it is paid for a lifetime of working).


27 posted on 06/30/2014 5:37:34 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: dynachrome

I’m sure that if you’re using your masters degree in LGBT studies in your career as a blogger for Obama or something like that, your attitude is just dandy. But, if you work in a business that has real customers, deadlines, and an actual need to compete... then you’re screwed.


28 posted on 06/30/2014 5:38:08 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: dynachrome
The guy sounds ungrateful.

...raising three kids on her own on top of 60 hour work weeks...

That's why it shouldn't "boggles me that after 40 years of dedicated work, rarely calling in sick and in fact winning awards for her diligence and treatment of patients, that my mother is still concerned about whether or not she will be financially secure."

What did this guy do to help his mother when she was younger?

-PJ

29 posted on 06/30/2014 5:41:33 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Sequoyah101
I had to post back to you because you made an interesting point I hadn't really considered regarding pensions and retirement. "Only that one little charmed generation enjoyed it and we will all pay for it for ages."

I can't recall anyone from the prior generation; before WW2 and the baby boomers who had a pension. Best that I can figure those folks were cared for by their children or perhaps if they had wealth were on their own.

30 posted on 06/30/2014 5:44:40 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: dynachrome

Very funny.

Seeing him cope with reality would be lots of fun to watch.

.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 5:47:05 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Ultima
Welcome to FR. Ultima

Is the name like "bless me Ultima"?

32 posted on 06/30/2014 5:53:10 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: dirtboy

Friends of ours allowed their son and fellow homeless, unemployed friends use their yard to camp in for awhile, and helped them out with a little bit of food.

Until they overheard one of them say “work is for suckers”. They were all gone the next day - including the son. I met a homeless guy that admitted to me that “I could work, but I don’t believe in paying taxes for stuff I don’t believe in - so I choose not to work.” For some of these people living in a tent is no big deal, and well worth the price of not having to work.


33 posted on 06/30/2014 5:54:11 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: dynachrome

Thanks for voting for Obama, Millenials. And good luck paying off the $17 Trillion debt. Social Security and Medicare will be gone in a few years. Your life is chained to the government, and you will work until you croak.


34 posted on 06/30/2014 6:04:54 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
I can't recall anyone from the prior generation; before WW2 and the baby boomers who had a pension. Best that I can figure those folks were cared for by their children or perhaps if they had wealth were on their own.

The Social Security Act was signed by FDR on 8/14/35. Taxes were collected for the first time in January 1937 and the first one-time, lump-sum payments were made that same month. Regular ongoing monthly benefits started in January 1940.

Yes, families took care of the elderly unless they were wealthy. My grandparents took care of their parents, and my parents took care of their parents. Now, my children are so hard pressed to make ends meet they can't take care of us, so we both still work at age 80. I pray that this young person does not have to face the hard facts of life.

35 posted on 06/30/2014 6:09:26 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: tbw2

That would be me. I work on Sundays for a couple hours, check work emails on Saturday a couple times as well, and I rarely take a day off where I don’t have some contact with work.


36 posted on 06/30/2014 6:12:02 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: WVNan

Remember also that the average life expectancy was a good bit less. It’s gone from roughly 60 to 80 in that period.

Now the Death Panels will reverse that over time, but it will take a while.


37 posted on 06/30/2014 6:12:43 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: WVNan
Thanks.

So you're referring to social security, that's yet another part of the query and you put some helpful dates and on the ground observations confirming what I think. Mine was actually focusing on pensions and that sort of retirement benefit and the one off generation who got to enjoy it.

Almost all my parent's generation extended family, the WW2'ers had pensions and retired that way along with their social security benefits.

38 posted on 06/30/2014 6:26:11 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: dynachrome

“...the hurdles to really create measurable impact...”

Well, you couldn’t make a measurable impact doing your chores at 17, kid. We don’t expect much impact now.


39 posted on 06/30/2014 6:45:33 PM PDT by polymuser
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To: WVNan
I remember a conversation I had with one of them regarding the possibility of a social security shortfall and her response. "Absolutely not", would any situation reduce those "agreed to and understood" benefits even if they were not essential or deeply depended upon. No future generation should be allowed to take the money I put in.

And although that conversation took place back in my liberal leaning days, I understood her point then and I still do. A promise made by a politician is still a promise, even if it could never actually work.

Me? I think it was since somewhere around that conversation that I've always assumed when I finally get to the counter to ask for my social security I'll be told, oop's oh heck! we're fresh out sorry about that!

40 posted on 06/30/2014 6:47:02 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Yes, most people don’t think of this or realize it.

A pension is from the 50s and only the Greatest and Silent Generations and lost of civll servants enjoy them. The rest are left to do the best they can.


41 posted on 06/30/2014 6:47:36 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: dynachrome

“So call us what you want,”

God damed spoiled brats!!

Hope they starve to death.

I sure wouldn’t allow one of them to work for me!


42 posted on 06/30/2014 7:04:19 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dynachrome
One of the comments I really like and relate to:

This article sums up the entitlement attitude of this generation perfectly. So 9-5 "doesn't work for you" huh? Well, guess what? Tough ****! The world doesn't care what "works for you." You see, the world doesn't work for you. You work for the world.

43 posted on 06/30/2014 7:08:51 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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To: dynachrome

Young folks should learn to be frugal enough to stop feeding the spoiled and lazy political/regulator class, and each of them should learn to produce something useful as a hobby for now.


44 posted on 06/30/2014 7:30:20 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: dynachrome
"I believe that I speak for most Millennials when I say 9-5 isn't enough...We want more for ourselves, expect more from ourselves, and are willing to put in the work to ensure more is the outcome."

Very true. Make lifelong efforts of starting your own businesses. And when the time is right, make the former establishment buy from you.


45 posted on 06/30/2014 7:41:38 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Yes and many think it is because THEY deserved it. They don’t recognize that they just hit the lottery on timing of their working years.


46 posted on 06/30/2014 8:02:58 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: oldbrowser

Actually the name is from the Ultima game series.


47 posted on 07/01/2014 5:39:33 AM PDT by Ultima
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