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MGH To Quiz All Patients About Use Of Alcohol And Illegal Drugs
CBS Boston ^ | 06/30/2014 | CBS

Posted on 06/30/2014 3:59:23 PM PDT by Rusty0604

Massachusetts General Hospital plans to begin questioning all patients about their use of alcohol and illegal drugs starting this fall, even if they are at MGH for a totally unrelated issue.

Four questions will be posed, including “how often have you had six or more drinks on one occasion,” and “how often have you used an illegal drug in the past year?”

Enough “yes” answers could prompt a special team to conduct what’s being called a “bedside intervention” and possible treatment.

The mandatory treatment plan comes amid soaring numbers of opiate addiction across Massachusetts and the region, with many hospitals working to improve addiction treatment

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: alcohol; drugs; wod
Mandatory treatment. I wonder if they are asking about gun ownership at the same time.
1 posted on 06/30/2014 3:59:23 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Possibly related.


2 posted on 06/30/2014 4:01:21 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Rusty0604

The VA has been asking about firearms the last several years.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 4:03:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Rusty0604

“Mandatory Treatment” means “We get to charge you out the wazoo.”


4 posted on 06/30/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Rusty0604

They should ask both Obama and Hillary.


5 posted on 06/30/2014 4:03:48 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Rusty0604
“how often have you had six or more drinks on one occasion?”

I can't remember, lol. And if the nurse is cute, I'd reply, "I'm interested."

6 posted on 06/30/2014 4:05:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Rusty0604

Guns are completely out of line but the other questions are pretty much standard. I used to volunteer info on my drug and alcohol use to doctors when I did those things. It makes the doctor’s job easier and the treatment more effective.

Reporting it to the state is another matter since it infringes on doctor patient confidentiality.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 4:05:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Rusty0604

The game begins.


8 posted on 06/30/2014 4:06:51 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Rusty0604

Will they also be quizzing them on unhealthy buggery ?


9 posted on 06/30/2014 4:07:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The VA has been asking about firearms the last several years.


I’d bet most vets either tell them it’s none of their business or tell them they don’t have any guns.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 4:07:57 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Rusty0604

One drink a month and they will probably take your children away from you.....


11 posted on 06/30/2014 4:09:30 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree but you probably expected your privacy to be respected. If I thought they were going to put me into mandatory treatment if some nanny thought I needed it, I might not be so truthful with the Doctor.


12 posted on 06/30/2014 4:09:44 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

VA asking about firearms is sliding into “vets who own guns & report having nightmares are dangerous” territory.

If the current mental health mentality were in place forty years ago half us Vietnam vets would be locked in the loony bin.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 4:12:05 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: GraceG

"What difference does it make.
All the important people are EXEMPT."

14 posted on 06/30/2014 4:12:07 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 1rudeboy

I was asked, when applying for life insurance, if I had been to a drug rehab in the last two years. I told her that rehab was for quitters. When asked about Alzheimer’s, I waited a second, then told her I forgot her question.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 4:13:08 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: laplata; 2ndDivisionVet

I had my first visit to a VA Clinic 2 months ago. Lots of questions about health related problems but nothing about firearms.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:09 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: GraceG

Yea, but if you smoke pot that will probably be ok.


17 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:15 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: GraceG

O_o I’m reading this on the john, with bourbon straight .


18 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:39 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Rusty0604

Just answer nope to any personal questions; alcohol nope, drugs nope, guns don’t have any .....


19 posted on 06/30/2014 4:14:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What about asking about burglery, assault and unConstitutational actions.


20 posted on 06/30/2014 4:15:00 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: NativeSon

TMI


21 posted on 06/30/2014 4:15:46 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: cripplecreek

“I used to volunteer info on my drug and alcohol use to doctors”

I don’t lie to my doctor!


22 posted on 06/30/2014 4:16:03 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The VA has been asking about firearms the last several years

I think that started when there was a huge upsurge in veteran suicides, many unexpected by those around the person.

23 posted on 06/30/2014 4:16:50 PM PDT by grania
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To: Red_Devil 232

It’s good to hear that they didn’t ask about guns. Thanks.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 4:17:16 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Rusty0604
"Just say...no."
25 posted on 06/30/2014 4:18:56 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The VA has been asking about firearms the last several years.”

My doctor asked this and I answered no even though I had a (legally carried) gun in my pocket. It’s none of their business. Seriously, anybody who answered yes would be asking for no end of scrutiny and hassle. The thing is, when they supply your credit card info any ammo purchases or gun cleaning supplies will flag you instantly.


26 posted on 06/30/2014 4:20:05 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

A good patient is just as important as a good doctor. Maybe more so.


27 posted on 06/30/2014 4:21:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Rusty0604

Remember, there is no such thing as private information between you and your doctor. If it’s in the chart, then fedgov knows.


28 posted on 06/30/2014 5:03:15 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Rusty0604

Also, make sure you read the fine print. I don’t know for a fact that this applies to health care, but many forms have criminal penalties for any falsehoods you put down.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 5:09:40 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Criminal? How can that be?


30 posted on 06/30/2014 5:19:27 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Ken H

And the IRS.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 5:19:56 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
I've seen such warnings on government and insurance forms - 'Under penalty of perjury, I hereby attest that all representations made by me are true...'

With Obamacare in force, who knows where else it may apply?

32 posted on 06/30/2014 5:55:57 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Red_Devil 232

Welcome Home!


33 posted on 06/30/2014 7:13:34 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Rusty0604

My reply would be “nunya”. When they say “excuse me?”, I will explain, “nunya bidness”.


34 posted on 06/30/2014 7:13:55 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: elcid1970

If the current mental health mentality were in place forty years ago half us Vietnam vets would be locked in the loony bin.


That’s right.

Welcome Home!


35 posted on 06/30/2014 7:15:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Rusty0604

Just LIE!!! Everybody else does! But I really do like the “what difference does it make” answer.


36 posted on 06/30/2014 7:28:18 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: laplata

Thanks. Never too late to hear that.

:^)


37 posted on 07/01/2014 3:49:42 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: cripplecreek
Guns are completely out of line but the other questions are pretty much standard. I used to volunteer info on my drug and alcohol use to doctors when I did those things. It makes the doctor’s job easier and the treatment more effective. Reporting it to the state is another matter since it infringes on doctor patient confidentiality.

Agreed the doctor if he/she is going to treat someone does have a right to ask about drugs and alcohol use. That is common sense as many medications can cause adverse reactions and it's their hides the patient would sue. But all answers should be confidential & released to involved staff only. It's none of the states business.

38 posted on 07/01/2014 4:07:23 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Rusty0604
Having spent 20 years in clinical medicine this,on its face,doesn't sound unreasonable,largely due to the fact that alcohol and illegal drugs play such a huge role in damaging health.However,if it comes to pass that a patient is reported to authorities for having refused to answer or having given a false answer...or,worse still,medical personnel are compelled by law to ask such questions and/or reveal answers to police/prosecutors/courts...then it becomes really bad.And you can be sure that Rats,at least,will want exactly that to happen.

I give blood regularly,as do many folks.You should hear some of the questions you're asked beforehand! Do you frequent hookers? Do you shoot drugs? Do you (a guy) take it up the ***? Etc,etc.As silly and embarrassing these questions are there's a legitimate medical reason for each.

39 posted on 07/01/2014 7:56:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: elcid1970

We’ll never forget our fellow Nam vets.


40 posted on 07/01/2014 8:10:06 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I gave blood right after 9-11 (A Neg, not too common) & went on giving until they banned anyone stationed in Germany between 1980-1990. Mad Cow disease is the reason they still give when I asked to donate last month even though I came back from Germany in 1983. It’s ridiculous!

Ironically the price of beef in the commissary over there was cheap since it was bought locally. Some Congressman who was also big in the American Cattlemens’ Association tried to ban local beef purchases but failed.

Anyway, if I’m ever allowed to donate again, they’ll probably ask me, “Do you own guns?”


41 posted on 07/01/2014 8:22:36 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
... until they banned anyone stationed in Germany between 1980-1990. Mad Cow disease is the reason they still give...

Yup,presence in Europe is one of the questions asked.I knew that it was connected to "mad cow" disease because British beef was widely distributed throughout Europe during that time.

42 posted on 07/01/2014 8:28:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Heck, at the time our U.S. Commissary beef came from not-so-communist Hungary!

The same folks who exported that wonderful canned bacon from way back.

Real question: is there ANYPLACE where I can donate my 6%ile blood? Hate to waste it all on me.


43 posted on 07/01/2014 9:13:19 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
Heck, at the time our U.S. Commissary beef came from not-so-communist Hungary!

I assume that the logic is (backed up by research,presumably) that if you were living in Europe during a particular period there was a real possibility that you could have eaten infected beef from a Burger King,McDonalds of from supermarkets not located on base.

Real question: is there ANYPLACE where I can donate my 6%ile blood? Hate to waste it all on me.

Very probably not.A few months ago I tried to give blood at my usual place (Children's Hospital in Boston...a very well known pediatric hospital) and was refused.I was refused when I informed them,upon being questioned regarding foreign travel (which is one of the standard questions) that I had just traveled to southern China about a month before.When I asked the nurse to explain she said that donor guidelines are formulated mainly by the CDC and she implied that donor centers are legally obliged to obey them.She told me that I'm banned from donating blood or blood products for a year from that visit.My guess is that your ban is also thanks to CDC regulations and will be in force for as long as the CDC proclaims that it should be.

44 posted on 07/01/2014 10:59:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

By the powers vested in the CDC, I’m SOL as a blood donor.

So are those in need of some A-Neg. C’est la guerre!


45 posted on 07/01/2014 4:19:03 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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By the powers vested in the CDC, I’m SOL as a blood donor.So are those in need of some A-Neg. C’est la guerre!

Assuming that my belief is correct one can only hope that there's a valid scientific basis to that rule.I do wonder,however,what blood donors who've lived their entire lives in Europe do.

46 posted on 07/01/2014 4:46:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Rusty0604

Gun ownership, or dog ownership...


47 posted on 07/01/2014 4:50:48 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Or how about all those American military stationed in Germany up until the fall of the Warsaw Pact and then the USSR?

Remember the Mad Cow scare didn’t start until years later, after 9-11-2001, as noted.

Or maybe.....banning U.S. vets serving there 1980-1990 was a sop to the homosexuals who are also completely banned.

I sense a tit for tat, if you get my drift.


48 posted on 07/01/2014 6:54:45 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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