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Windows 'Threshold': More on Microsoft's plan to win over Windows 7 users
ZD Net ^ | June 30, 2014 -- 14:20 GMT (07:20 PDT) | Mary Jo Foley

Posted on 06/30/2014 8:18:40 PM PDT by Utilizer

One of Microsoft's main goals with 'Threshold,' the next major version of Windows, is to win over Windows 7 hold-outs.

Windows "Threshold," the next major version of Microsoft's Windows operating system due to hit around the spring of 2015, is coming into focus.

And not too surprisingly, one of the Microsoft Operating Systems Group's main goals in designing and developing the coming operating system (OS) release — which may or may not ultimately be branded as "Windows 9" — is to try to make it more palatable to hold-out Windows 7 users.

In order to do this, Microsoft is working on including in Threshold lots of new features specifically aimed at "desktop" users, meaning those who interact primarily with their Windows computing device from a desktop or laptop PC with mouse/keyboard and optional touch.

With Windows 8.1 Update, Microsoft officials designed Windows around a set of profiles based on the hardware specifications of the devices in use. Certain devices running Windows 8.1 Update include Power and Search buttons on the Metro-style Start screen; others don't. Some of those running Windows 8.1 Update have their machines start up by default in the Desktop/Win32 legacy environment, while others on touch/mobile-first devices start up in the Metro-Style Start Menu by default.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: newos; upgrade; win7; windows
Supposed to convince everyone to Upgrade to (purchase) The Best Windows(TM) Ever.

So if you are still running win7 or even XP, MS is certain that this latest version will convince you to install it.

1 posted on 06/30/2014 8:18:41 PM PDT by Utilizer
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To: Utilizer

How are Windows 7 users needing to be “won over”?


2 posted on 06/30/2014 8:23:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

How are Windows 7 users needing to be “won over”?


Good question. I like my windows 7 machine AND my two XP machines.


3 posted on 06/30/2014 8:27:29 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: GeronL

It may be Windows Vista upgraded, but my computer runs 24 hours constantly and I haven’t had any problems since I built it a couple of years ago.


4 posted on 06/30/2014 8:28:14 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: GeronL

Until now the UI is too “different” than the previous ones (Win 7, Veesta, and XP) with a Start button and toolbar. Thirdparty freeware can emulate this UI and get most people comfortable enough to be productive. I would expect the newer OS to be more featureful and less subject to exploits.


5 posted on 06/30/2014 8:28:44 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Utilizer

Sitting here with my ThinkPad R50e running Win XP. It does everything I need and then some. Tell me again why I should upgrade?

MSFT made XP, and Win 7 for that matter, too good.

If MSFT lives up to their “every other OS is a good one” history, Win 9 should be a humdinger!

Who knows? Maybe by then I’ll have updated to Win 7 where I can still run XP in a virtual machine :)


6 posted on 06/30/2014 8:29:00 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: Utilizer

Not sure why Microsoft is worried, Linux is so much better,faster,lightweight, and does more than windows could ever dream of, not to mention the lack of Virus’s and other nasty little things.


7 posted on 06/30/2014 8:33:19 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: cuban leaf

bump


8 posted on 06/30/2014 8:33:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Utilizer

Well, this new OS should run like a champ then. Because every other Microsoft OS alternates between sucky and super.


9 posted on 06/30/2014 8:34:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: eyeamok

Linux is a few breakthroughs away from scaring MS and Apple.


10 posted on 06/30/2014 8:34:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Utilizer
Microsoft's plan to win over Windows 7 users

All they need to do is come up with a nice XP interface to win over this Win 7 user.

11 posted on 06/30/2014 8:35:06 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Utilizer

I have still not gotten a check from MS for 500,000 bucks to buy new manufacturing machinery that works with Winows 8


12 posted on 06/30/2014 8:35:57 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Utilizer

I want Win 7 with the Win XP file manager and Power Toys.


13 posted on 06/30/2014 8:36:13 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: upchuck
Agreed. Running with XP on the majority of machines that I need it for those programs that need the 'doze OS, or even 98SE for its DOS support and have seen no need to "upgrade" so far.

Was not happy with win7 when I tried it and still see nothing but problems with win8/win8.1 to this day.

Still using Linux for the vast majority of things I need to do, but who knows? Perhaps win9 may show some intelligent additions this time in the newest version.

It could happen. Maybe.

14 posted on 06/30/2014 8:39:11 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

I’m on XP. I haven’t seen much evidence that my productivity would increase even going to Windows 3000 (and no, I’m not an idiot).
Just don’t see how spreadsheets, or Word, or database access, or my Cad programs improve. Or my browsers.


15 posted on 06/30/2014 8:41:02 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: eyeamok

Know what you mean, but lots of people are running the ‘doze OS and problems are a concern for quite a few of them. Perhaps the new Win9 will address some of the problems for a change, instead of demanding another steep learning curve for yet another of their ‘Best Ever’ Operating System.


16 posted on 06/30/2014 8:48:23 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Well, this new OS should run like a champ then.

It could happen. *grin*

17 posted on 06/30/2014 8:50:54 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: cuban leaf

Seems like Microsoft is playing the same thing with their software as BO is playing with healthcare. If you like your Windows _, you can keep it, but.....

When my techie son installed Windows 7 on all our work desktops as replacements to XP, he said he hoped I realized it would only be a matter of time before Microsoft would quit supporting Windows 7 and then I’d have to upgrade again. I left XP on all our laptops but they are not connected to the internet. I’m totally happy now they should just go totally away.


18 posted on 06/30/2014 8:53:40 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Colorado Doug
All they need to do is come up with a nice XP interface to win over this Win 7 user.

Crikey, I'd be happy if they would just upgrade the underlying OS instead of demanding that we purchase a whole new one and re-learning yet again how to use the bloody computer every time!

19 posted on 06/30/2014 8:54:01 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: smokingfrog
thank you...
20 posted on 06/30/2014 9:05:27 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Utilizer

Hold out my @ss, I just started using Windows 7 a few months ago. After dealing with the wife’s Win 8 machine and the Xp BS MS played, no way will they stampede me again.


21 posted on 06/30/2014 9:09:19 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Utilizer
How to force me win me over to upgrade? Well have my power supply blow up in a laptop as happened to a recent XP computer. Otherwise I would still be running with it.
22 posted on 06/30/2014 9:10:57 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: DaxtonBrown
Preaching to the choir here, s'truth. MS always brags about how its latest version is so much better than before...

And yet, I have yet to see them boast about how their latest and greatest release uses less resources, takes up less hard drive space, or demands less of basic memory footprint just to run. That at least would be a selling point for many.

Too, they still will not release their official standards for such small things as the ntfs filesystem, and each new release of their "Office" products is less and less compatible with previous versions.

Even now their latest offerings to date will not run certain windows programs I rely on, which provides even less incentive to pay yet another 125 dollars for their latest produt.

23 posted on 06/30/2014 9:13:12 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: cuban leaf

I’m on Windows 7, but I miss XP.


24 posted on 06/30/2014 9:20:57 PM PDT by matthew fuller (gopetition.com/petitions/request-for-immediate-texas-border-control/sign.html#se)
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To: Utilizer

I run 8/8.1 on all my desktops and I’m getting to where I don’t like 7 anymore and as for XP...blech! How archaic.

Haters gonna hate I guess.


25 posted on 06/30/2014 9:40:07 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Utilizer

Computers are supposed to be about productivity. Spending time learning how to use a new operating system to do the same tasks in a different way is not productive.

IMHO, Windows should be more like Linux in one way. Upgrade the underlying software base, but keep a WinXP shell, Win7 shell and create a new Win8 shell like Linux has KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc.

That way, I can upgrade to the latest Windows to support new hardware and get all the latest security fixes, but don’t have to re-learn basic tasks that shouldn’t change from version to version.

How many millions (or billions) were lost re-training experienced Office users when they went to the “ribbon?”


26 posted on 06/30/2014 9:48:44 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: KarlInOhio
...upgrade? Well have my power supply blow up in a laptop as happened to a recent XP computer.

You could always re-install XP on the next machine. Perhaps an inexpensive refurb business machine from a reputable dealer like NewEgg.

27 posted on 06/30/2014 9:52:33 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Edward Teach
I run 8/8.1 on all my desktops and I’m getting to where I don’t like 7 anymore and as for XP...blech! How archaic.

How's THIS:

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For "archaic"?

28 posted on 06/30/2014 9:59:41 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Edward Teach

http://www.freedos.org/


29 posted on 06/30/2014 10:00:41 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

I have been running Windows 7 for over a year after upgrading my desktop from Windows XP and really like it. I have tried Windows 8 and 8.1 on friend’s computers and absolutely hate it. Even doing simple tasks like upgrading anti- virus software or installing Skype become hours of frustration. While Apple’ s OS has its quirks it is half way intuitive and you can quickly master the basics. Even geeky Linux is more straight forward than Windows 8. Windows 8 is a dud and the boys at Microsoft need to go back to the drawing board and come up with something better than Windows 8 before I will consider upgrading.


30 posted on 06/30/2014 10:04:33 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: MediaMole
IMHO, Windows should be more like Linux in one way. Upgrade the underlying software base, but keep a WinXP shell, Win7 shell and create a new Win8 shell like Linux has KDE, Cinnamon, XFCE, etc.

So very true. That is one major advantage of Linux and why I prefer it so much. Once you decide on the particular Window manager you prefer, whether it be KDE (My personal favourite), Gnome, LXDE, Step 9 (NextStep), or whatever, upgrading to the next release is not a major headache and things work pretty much the way you expect them to.

I mean, I am quite attracted to PC-LinuxOS although I do not like to depend upon .rpm files for some programs. But it really is a very nice-looking interface, I must admit.

Also you do not have to pay about 125 dollars each and every time you upgrade in Linux. More for the MS-Office products, I believe, while the Linux system offers their version(s) as defaults on pretty much every distro. AND backwards-compatible with the previous versions of MS-Office files, no thanks to MinisculeSquish who refuse to help with compatibility concerns.

31 posted on 06/30/2014 10:18:03 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: All

*Ahem* “produt” should be “product”. Getting tired...


32 posted on 06/30/2014 10:29:13 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: matthew fuller

See My #28 and #29. :)


33 posted on 06/30/2014 10:30:53 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

7 does everything I want. If the newer Windows pays my bills, cures cancer and brings world peace...I’ll buy it.


34 posted on 07/01/2014 12:00:27 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Utilizer

XP served me quite well for a long time.I see no reason why 7 won’t do the same.


35 posted on 07/01/2014 6:45:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Dallas59

Well, the ‘newest’ Windows does one out of those I would wager, but then again so does Win7 and XP as well so why upgrade?


36 posted on 07/01/2014 10:39:33 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Gay State Conservative
XP served me quite well for a long time.I see no reason why 7 won’t do the same.

Well, I suppose anything is possible. Then again SimplyMEPIS 7.0 is a bit newer than XP (from 2007) and much more stable so you could always try that route. :)

37 posted on 07/01/2014 10:45:21 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

For a lark a fellow sysadmin loaded NT4 into a VM and tried to go online with it. Hilarity ensued.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 11:09:40 AM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Edward Teach
I am reminded of the time I was going online and the browser I was using made it easy to identify the OS it was operating on -so I changed it to read "Windows for Workgroups 3.11".

I think Win2k or ME had just come out and when others saw the OS identified on the system it was pretty funny then as well. :)

39 posted on 07/01/2014 11:37:55 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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