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Adm. Michelle Howard becomes first four-star woman in Navy history
WAPO ^ | July 1, 2014 | Dan Lamothe

Posted on 07/01/2014 3:05:48 PM PDT by PROCON

The ceremony included a bit of comedy, but there was no denying the significance: For the first time in its history, the Navy promoted a woman on Tuesday to become a four-star admiral.

Surrounded by friends, family and peers, Adm. Michelle J. Howard was promoted to her new rank at the Women in Military Service for America Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery. She’ll take over as the vice chief of naval operations, the No. 2 officer in the service. She is not only the first woman to hold the job, but the first African-American.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: michellehoward; militarywomen; usnavy
It looks like she orchestrated the successful Capt. Phillips rescue, good on her. But of course the lamestreams have to bring gender and race into the equation, sheesh.
1 posted on 07/01/2014 3:05:48 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

But was she promoted through military affirmative action?


2 posted on 07/01/2014 3:07:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: PROCON

I’m sure she’ll be just as successful as Bull Halsey, Chester Nimitz and David Farragut.


3 posted on 07/01/2014 3:08:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: PROCON

Duty Honor Country

If she can cook too

Hey..


4 posted on 07/01/2014 3:15:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: PROCON
but there was no denying the significance

Oh, I deny it, alright.

First of all, there are way, way, WAY too many four-stars for the size of our armed forces - men and women, both.

But to give an officer whose surface warfare commands were, to put it mildly, minor such a distinction is ludicrous.

The Vice CNO from 1942 (when the billet was created) to 1945 was a three-star, and if three stars was good enough for a 2500-ship navy and 6 Marine divisions, it is CERTAINLY good enough for now.

5 posted on 07/01/2014 3:21:07 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
But was she promoted through military affirmative action?


6 posted on 07/01/2014 3:23:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: PROCON

Let’s see:
Ugly. Check
Black. Check
Women(sort of), Check
Probable SHAM “Marriage”. Check
Yep this B!TCH is “Qualified”!
Nimitz, Radford, Halsey, King “Granpa” MacCain WOULD PUKE ON “HER”!


7 posted on 07/01/2014 3:23:49 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: PROCON

This new type of leadership and 22% of West Point freshmen being girls, is probably why we Americans and especially old vets, feel so secure and happy today as we look at the Cold War being reconstructed, and Islam and China on the march.


8 posted on 07/01/2014 3:24:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: All

If she deserved it, hurrah to her!
If she got it because of her _preferences_ then NA.


9 posted on 07/01/2014 3:24:32 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Jim Noble
Oh, yeah, sure, easy for you to say. Why do you hate minority women so much? :-)
10 posted on 07/01/2014 3:24:44 PM PDT by PROCON (I WILL NOT SUBMIT TO TYRANNY!)
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To: PROCON
"“She is also a great example of how much we as a nation and a Navy lose if we put artificial barriers in,” Mabus told a crowd of about 150 people. “If we don’t judge people based on their ability, based on their capability."

It doesn't get any more Orwellian than that.

11 posted on 07/01/2014 3:26:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (( Rand Paul---What a tragedy if America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader.)
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To: PROCON

12 posted on 07/01/2014 3:30:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

they never look like Laurie Dhue :(


13 posted on 07/01/2014 3:35:49 PM PDT by isom35
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To: isom35

No. :)


14 posted on 07/01/2014 3:37:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PROCON

Grace Hopper made a bigger difference than most. Never got 4-stars.

15 posted on 07/01/2014 3:39:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think she taught me first grade ...


16 posted on 07/01/2014 3:42:23 PM PDT by x
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To: PROCON
Dates of Rank - draw your own conclusions

Rank Date
US Navy O10 Admiral July 1, 2014
US Navy O9 Vice Admiral August 24, 2012
US Navy O8 Rear Admiral August 1, 2010
US Navy O7 Rear Admiral (lower half) September 1, 2007[5]

17 posted on 07/01/2014 3:48:09 PM PDT by Dstorm (Palin 2016)
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To: trisham

Interesting picture.
I realize that as a 3 Star she has plenty of subordinates to do the ‘heavy lifting’ BUT take away the newspaper and ‘awards’ and her ‘work area’ looks very similar to BO’s.

Maybe she is Qualified. Maybe she is Over-Qualified, but we see 2 things that make her ‘newish’ if she is the tri-fecta, we have reached a new low.

I have already told my daughter that she can depend on me to do absolutely NOTHING to encourage her sons to join the Military, I am not yet to the point of discouraging them but on a daily basis I am getting closer to realizing why some people during ‘my era’ (Vietnam) were sending their sons to Canada or at least discouraging them from joining, but with the Draft they had to take ‘other’ actions.
I am sure the Fathers and Grandfathers of the time had reasons (at least in their minds) to not want their kin to go to SE Asia but I definitely don’t want anyone ‘associated’ with me being stuck in a hell hole like we keep getting ourselves involved in.

I never thought I would feel this way.
Of course when my Grandfather retired after 50(or so) years of carrying mail, - He, being a ‘good Irish Catholic’ in upstate NY, of the D persuasion, REFUSED to accept his certificate signed by Ike - I couldn’t understand it.

Funny, I have the exact same thought when having to accept anything from WJC or BO......

Now, even though I had 2 Uncles, 5 Aunts and 3 older cousins, I was the first R in the family and probably one of the VERY FEW Irish Catholics that had no use for the Politician, JFK and I was the wisened age of 21 for his first election.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 3:59:12 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Better to keep your enemies inside peeing out, rather than keep them outside, peeing in.".)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Er, that’s affirmative...


19 posted on 07/01/2014 3:59:25 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Dstorm

I hear you.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 4:02:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: xrmusn

Both of my parents served in WW2. One of my brothers in law served in the Navy. One of my nephews served two tours in Iraq as a Marine. One of my nieces is married to a wonderful man who is in the U. S. Army, Special Forces.

I am unable to believe that this woman even approaches their patriotism.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 4:10:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess you go to war with the Navy you have...


22 posted on 07/01/2014 4:12:16 PM PDT by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Ping.


23 posted on 07/01/2014 4:19:53 PM PDT by PROCON (I WILL NOT SUBMIT TO TYRANNY!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
But was she promoted through military affirmative action?

No doubt. Because throughout all recorded history there had never, ever been a black person or a woman who got where she got because she deserved it, right?

24 posted on 07/01/2014 4:26:55 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Dstorm

Token?


25 posted on 07/01/2014 4:28:46 PM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Rannug

Don’t know, but it is a rapid rise, I guess you would have to compare it with other Military aides to the Sec of the Navy.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 4:45:14 PM PDT by Dstorm (Palin 2016)
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To: ansel12

This new type of leadership and 22% of West Point freshmen being girls, is probably why we Americans and especially old vets, feel so secure and happy today as we look at the Cold War being reconstructed, and Islam and China on the march.

***
This woman agrees with you. The military as social experiment continues.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 5:14:59 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

of course.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 5:20:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: isom35

She’s black? She’s whiter than Obama...


29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:21:31 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: DoodleDawg

exactly.

This entire thread demonstrates the insidiousness of Affirmative Action, how it causes hate and discord, and how it even hurts and/or stigmatizes those it purports to help.

ADM Howard is easily one of the most popular Navy Flag Officers out there, and with good reason. I know several who have worked for here, and they think the world of her and her leadership. She supposedly backs her Sailors 100% , treats them genuinely and humanely, and gets tons of respect for her steadfast support. She also enjoyes a reputation as an immensely capable Officer. Hard to find that strong of support for a lot of the other Flags out there.

Also, someone said her career was insignificant compared to others. I can’t see how that is true. She commanded an Amphib at the O-5 level, an Amphibious Squadron at the O-6/Major Command Level, an Expeditionary Strike Group, Relief Operations in the Pacific, and Task Force 151 in the mid-East. That’s pretty big shit for a Surface Officer.

She has had a quick ride to the top. Is it luck? Is she that good? Is it just straight up favoritism? Unfortunately she can’t beat the naysayers, due to the ugly nature of Affirmative Action. I’d be just as skeptical as the rest of you guys if I didn’t know differently in this case.

Clarence Thomas has received the same questions his whole life, but is a solid Conservative Judge that’s busy saving our asses routinely.

Just another case of Liberal/Leftist policies screwing us ALL over.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 5:49:43 PM PDT by the big wanad
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To: the big wanad

and to tag onto my past post—her rise hasn’t been as quick as I thought. She’s been in 36 years (where even 4 stars get out at around 40 years), and is only 3 years junior to ADM Greenert, the current CNO (who has already been in the job over a year himself)

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=394


31 posted on 07/01/2014 8:03:51 PM PDT by the big wanad
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