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Water Witching - fake or real?
My Desk | 07/02/2014 | Abathar

Posted on 07/02/2014 6:32:17 AM PDT by Abathar

I'm curious, has anyone else seen someone use a stick to find water before, and do you believe it works?

We sold a piece of property and had to move a well that was on it to another older well we drilled years ago but never used. When we couldn't find the cap with a metal detector the well driller who put it in 20 years ago said we were looking in the wrong place, because there was no water there. He went back to his truck, pulled out a stick, and he and his assistant started walking the property and marking where the stick swung down. He told us that there was a gravel vein running N to S and it had to be in that area, that where our memory told us it was was wrong, and he never would have drilled there.

Long story short, he was within 4 ft. of where the old well was found with that stupid stick and its been screwing with my mind ever since. 3 days ago I would have snorted derisively and and used my best Sheldon Cooper "Hokum" imitation, but now I don't know what to think. Has anyone else seen it work or was he just lucky?


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1 posted on 07/02/2014 6:32:17 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

Yes I’ve seen it. It’s real.


2 posted on 07/02/2014 6:33:38 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Abathar

Maybe he knew where it was and was messing with you.


3 posted on 07/02/2014 6:33:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: goodwithagun

And I’m not crazy, my mother had me tested.


4 posted on 07/02/2014 6:34:27 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Abathar

A priest, rabbi and minister went fishing in a boat on a lake. The priest said that he was thirsty, stood up, stepped out of the boat and walked across the water to shore where he purchased a can of soda. After he returned in the same manner the minister thought the soda was a good idea so he also stepped out of the boat and walked on the water to shore for a soda. After he returned the rabbbi decided to follow their exampled. He took one step out of the boat and promptly sank out of sight.

The priest turned to the minister. “I guess we should have told him where the rocks were.”


5 posted on 07/02/2014 6:34:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Abathar

Gotta weigh in here...

I’m a Christ follower, so I’m not going to attribute this to anything supernatural. I believe it’s entirely something to do with body chemistry/electrical makeup.

I can do it. I hold wires which cross when I walk across a buried water line. I don’t know if it is detecting the water, but it works for plastic pipe, not just metal.

And, here’s the weird thing - everyone that is descended from my father can do it - my siblings, but not my mom; my children and nieces and nephews, but not my wife or my siblings’ spouses.


6 posted on 07/02/2014 6:36:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Larry Lucido

That was also a possibility, but the workers all said they have seen it done so often that they didn’t even think twice about it. In our area there are plenty of places that are dry, and he won’t even drill a well for a customer if they tell him to unless he determines himself there is water there.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 6:37:03 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Grandfather on mom’s side could and he was always in demand. He was just about 100% accurate.

He was also a top notch accountant, scrabble player, and church going guy.


8 posted on 07/02/2014 6:37:50 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.q)
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To: Abathar

It’s real, I’ve done it. When the stick swings in your hand you’ll know to.


9 posted on 07/02/2014 6:38:37 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: MrB

Hey, Moses found water with a stick.

Why not others?

/humorous sarc


10 posted on 07/02/2014 6:39:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Abathar

I prefer steel gas welding rods or copper electrical wire. I never could get wood to work. Some people can find lost jewelry, electric lines, water line, water flowing underground... Some people can tell how deep it is to water and even how much water is down there. I can’t. I don’t know how it works or why most people can’t do it.


11 posted on 07/02/2014 6:39:50 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Abathar

It works. I can find underground tile lines with 2 pieces of #9 wire; one held in each hand. Cut them about 3 foot long, bend one end in a L shape for a handle.
Just hold them loosely straight out and walk. When they cross you are over water or a tile line.
Walk a bunch of times in a grid pattern with a can of spray paint to mark, and its pretty accurate.
Not sure why it works; guessing some type of magnetic or electrical reason.


12 posted on 07/02/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: MrB

His assistant said he could not do it to save his life, but that the old man could and got in the business because people would pay him to come out and do it for them. His father and grandfather did it also.


13 posted on 07/02/2014 6:39:56 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar
I watched my old boss find the end of a pipe buried in gravel using two bent brazing rods. I was dumbfounded too, there is no way he could have known where it was, just that it was there somewhere. He made a couple of passes back and fourth and said ‘dig here’ sure as H*ll there it was about 2 feet down. This was in a large construction lay down yard.
14 posted on 07/02/2014 6:40:00 AM PDT by enraged
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To: goodwithagun; Abathar
Look up "water table".

Better yet, here it is:

"Dowsing" and "Water Witching" 'work' because anywhere you dig will (in most situations) hit the water table.

15 posted on 07/02/2014 6:41:21 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: MrB

I am curious what is your zodiac sign?


16 posted on 07/02/2014 6:42:07 AM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: Abathar

Many years ago I built a house. When it came time to hook up the water the plumber couldn’t find where the city had put the feed. The contractor took two wires about a foot long and bent them 90 degrees in the middle. He then started walking around the yard holding 1 end of each wire in each hand with the other pointing forward. As he walked over the driveway the wires crossed about a foot from the edge. He got a shovel and there it was.

I have tried it since and it works. No idea why.


17 posted on 07/02/2014 6:42:14 AM PDT by Checkmate
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To: Abathar

A few years back, there was a broken water main near where I live.

It had broken and flowed underground to emerge from a spot that was downhill.

The water dept came out and started checking things out, one of them took a necklace from around his neck. He held it in a swinging position, and started walking back and forth.
So I said to one of the guys, “Hey, I work with computers, I’m supposed to believe that?”
The guy I asked says “He NEVER misses! Keep your eyes on him”
Pretty soon the guy swinging the necklace says “Here!” and points to the ground.

They dug it up, and sure as crap, the break was there.
My water was on about 1/2 hour later.

I never doubted it since then.


18 posted on 07/02/2014 6:42:33 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: enraged

My dad tested me with the brazing rods.
Coat hangers work for me too.

Anyone know the “best” wire material for this to work?


19 posted on 07/02/2014 6:42:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I have seen it work numerous times and have done it myself. It works for finding pipes, wires, water, etc. whether or not they are metal, plastic or other material. I always assumed it worked because of the slight disturbances in the magnetic field created when things like pipe or wire are buried and an unnatural void and break in the soil causes some sort of minute disruption.


20 posted on 07/02/2014 6:44:20 AM PDT by onebuckman
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To: BwanaNdege

Nope, out neighbor drilled 2 wells at over 150’ once and were bone dry, never got a drop moved 100’ over towards the valley and hit good water at 40’. Too many people around here have no water at all on there property for that picture to be true in all places.


21 posted on 07/02/2014 6:44:30 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Dryman

You tryin’ that ol’ pickup line, again? That’s so 70’s.

:)

Shouldn’t matter, all the people I know that this works for are all over the year.

Sag, if it matters.


22 posted on 07/02/2014 6:44:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Abathar

I’ve seen this done successfully.

Years ago, we purchased a cabin property next to our house at the lake. We wanted to locate the septic so a water well came by with two coat hanger wires bent to an “L” shape.
He walked across the yard and I watched as the two wires crossed right over the septic tank. To confirm the find, he walked across from another direction and the wires responded at the same spot.


23 posted on 07/02/2014 6:45:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Abathar

It’s real. Very real.

I can prove it. Please send your account number/pin and I’ll email you the proof.


24 posted on 07/02/2014 6:46:06 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

It really freaks out the skeptics when you do it blindfolded...

it freaks them out more if it works for them.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 6:46:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Abathar

A friend and I were visiting his grandmother—gosh, almost 40 years ago—and she started talking about dowsing. She got a forked stick and showed me how to hold it, with the point sticking up and the forks bent apart with a little tension, like a spring. Then she pointed me out into her yard. I don’t know how it worked or if it’s all psychological , but that stick moved when I got to a certain spot, the point pulling down toward the ground. She said there was a flooded mine shaft down there. I’m a skeptic by nature, but I’ll never forget the feel of that stick twisting in my hand.


26 posted on 07/02/2014 6:47:13 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: Abathar

“In controlled tests, dowsing fails every time.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=james+randi+dowsing+test&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb


27 posted on 07/02/2014 6:47:35 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: Abathar

Don’t believe it for many reasons that would upset some.

Area’s top well driller has drilled 4 wells for us......swore to the method.....then added, “I know there’s water there - you can tell by the groove in the land there is a fracture below. First well was 500’ that delivered a quart a minute.....duh......

Also, no fracture......all 500’ was shale so black it looked like coal - and some of the nation’s first coal mines are 1/2 mile from us........

I picked two other sites. All were the same shale. He picked 4th site, but it was only 40’ from a 600’ well that he drilled 7 years earlier that had run dry.....

Trouble is all anyone has is anecdotal evidence - no scientific research has ever been done to verify the method......


28 posted on 07/02/2014 6:49:11 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Abathar

Joe Birman, a noted glaciologist who was my geology professor said that water witching is, of course, baloney, and he expressed amazement that so many people believed in it.


29 posted on 07/02/2014 6:49:11 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I've done it with metal coat hangers bent into a long "L" shape.

Make an open fist, stick the short arms into each hand and walk.

The wires cross. Back up and they open. Forward, they cross again.

Strange but true.

30 posted on 07/02/2014 6:49:31 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: Abathar

I was taught witching by the County electrician in my first job - I was assisting him for the week by digging for buried power lines - he witched the parking lot and then assisted me - we dug his hole...nothing we dug my hole - nothing - we dug in between them and found the buried line....now either he had an inclination by seeing previous construction blu prints or it was legit - Im still not sold on it.


31 posted on 07/02/2014 6:49:47 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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I feel a little better now, thanks.

I was ready to put on my asbestos undies when I posted this because I figured most of you would have a good joke at my expense, but your relies makes me think that mom didn’t need to have me tested either.


32 posted on 07/02/2014 6:50:01 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

It works because of electromagnetic fields the exist naturally around different molecular structures. I use metal clothes hangers straightened out and bent into Ls. Hold two together in one hand. When you cross over changes in the EM fields the metal rods will react to change.


33 posted on 07/02/2014 6:50:12 AM PDT by gr8eman (A good rant should have the word "crap" in it at least 4 times!)
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To: Abathar

It seems to be real but I’m not going to guess why.


34 posted on 07/02/2014 6:52:02 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: MrB

Have no clue how it works, but it works. I have used the 2 steel rods to find buried pipes and water well location, successfully.


35 posted on 07/02/2014 6:52:49 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Abathar

I use welding-rods to find metal pipes ,wire and pvc water pipes (flowing water) underground. I’m a witch ‘er .


36 posted on 07/02/2014 6:53:29 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Abathar

I know this is anecdotal, but here is my story. I built a cabin in MT. and had to drill for water. I didn’t believe in “witching” so I told the driller to drill right there. After $6000 was spent and over 500 feet of drilling I managed to get 1.5gpm of dirty water. My next door neighbor used a dowser and got over 250 gpm in less than 150 feet.


37 posted on 07/02/2014 6:53:59 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: Abathar

According to a farmer friend, it’s legitimate. He hired a water witch to locate water for a new house (on ground in the country, that the water witch was unfamiliar with), and the guy was successful. He used two metal divining rods, bent at right angles at their tips - and held one in each hand, with his arms stretched out straight in front of him. When the right angles turned to face each other (it took a bit of walking), he turned to my friend, and said, “The aquifer (spelling?) is directly below us. I don’t how deep it is, but it’s down there.” And it was.


38 posted on 07/02/2014 6:54:48 AM PDT by Basil Duke
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To: goodwithagun

We had a well drilled on our farm and water witching was used to find the best place to drill. I watched them do it and asked if I could try. Dang if the metal rods didn’t twitch in my hands and turn together in the same direction and cross. No matter how loosely I held them, they moved on their own.


39 posted on 07/02/2014 6:55:23 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: BwanaNdege
"Dowsing" and "Water Witching" 'work' because anywhere you dig will (in most situations) hit the water table.

Bingo.... In my neighbourhood of about 200 homes, all have their own wells and generally, the elevation is fairly flat. I've become the unofficial 'well and water supply consultant' for our neighbourhood association and as such, I have a copy of the well drilling records for about 90% of these wells. When these wells were installed, each hit water at about 95 feet deep so what would be the point of walking around with two sticks or wires? The aquifer beneath our feet is basically as flat as a pancake. As for the stories here about using this method to accurately locate underground leaks that are closer to surface, there might be a logical scientific explanation.... but I suspect that the person doing it has other experience factors that come into play on this.

40 posted on 07/02/2014 6:56:25 AM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it is important to know what you believe….and more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: Abathar

When I built my house in Montana the first step was drilling a well. If you ain’t got water you ain’t got anything. I had staked out where I was going to put the house and walked about 250 feet away and told the well driller this is where I want the well.

350 feet later at $28 a foot I had nothing but muck. Driller said to pick another spot, this one was a bust. Neighbor walked over with two pieces of welding rod, bent 90 degrees 1/3 of the way down. Walked around for about 10 minutes until we found a place where they crossed. I tried it ... they crossed.

Spray painted an X on the ground and told the driller to drill there. Hit water at 45 feet!


41 posted on 07/02/2014 6:58:20 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: MrB

My girlfriend and I were wondering if there was any connection.

Thanks for the post.


42 posted on 07/02/2014 6:59:05 AM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: Comment Not Approved

bingo! exact same story. Neighbor got an old geezer who could dowse and could take a shower by his well. My cabin was 7 miles outside of Red Lodge Mt.


43 posted on 07/02/2014 7:01:20 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: jiggyboy

I have seen a controlled test where a row of about 50, 5 gallon buckets were put in a row. only 3 buckets, all next to each other, were full of water. the rest were empty

A continuous wood plank path was then sat atop all of the buckets so you could walk on the path, and not see into the buckets.

Then they had a parade of guys with their metal rods , one at a time without seeing what the guy before them found, take their time and walk the path looking for water, not one single person found the water.


44 posted on 07/02/2014 7:01:37 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: goodwithagun

Tested?

For water witching ability?
or
Sanity?

In either case, you must have given her reason to suspect....


45 posted on 07/02/2014 7:01:42 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Abathar

Fake. Not real. Would have just as much luck getting a witch doctor chanting and doing a rain dance.


46 posted on 07/02/2014 7:05:18 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: goodwithagun

Sheldon??? Is that you?


47 posted on 07/02/2014 7:06:59 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Abathar

I have a set of gold finding sticks for sale. Only $100,000 + shipping.


48 posted on 07/02/2014 7:08:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Abathar

It’s Really Fake !!!


49 posted on 07/02/2014 7:09:12 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom…)
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To: Abathar

I’ll ask my Ouija board


50 posted on 07/02/2014 7:12:22 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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