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Guatemalan boy with white rosary found dead in Texas desert en route to a better life
TheSpec.com ^ | 7-2-2014 | Sonia Perez D.

Posted on 07/02/2014 10:34:07 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Guatemala Gilberto Ramos wanted to leave his chilly mountain village for the United States to earn money to treat his mother's epilepsy.

His mother begged him not to go. "The better treatment would have been if he stayed," Cipriana Juarez Diaz said in a tearful interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday. When he wouldn't relent, she draped him with a white rosary for safe passage.

A month later, his decaying body was found in the Texas desert. Now, the boy has become a symbol for the perils faced by a record flood of unaccompanied children from Central America who are crossing illegally into the U.S.

Authorities said Monday that Gilberto was 11, which would have made him one of the youngest known children to die crossing the desert. But his parents said Tuesday that Gilberto was 15.

The parents explained that they had taken several years to register his birth because of the remoteness of their village in Guatemala's northern mountains. When they did, they had forgotten Gilberto's actual birth date, so they listed the same date as his younger brother.

The boy was shirtless, having likely suffered heat stroke, but still wearing the rosary.

"He was a good son," Juarez said. "May God give me the strength to endure."

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KEYWORDS: aliens; blog; illegals
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1 posted on 07/02/2014 10:34:07 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

He should have stayed at home.


2 posted on 07/02/2014 10:35:21 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Citizen Zed
"He was a good son," Juarez said. "May God give me the strength to endure."

Where was this sentiment when you sent him to his death, Juarez?

3 posted on 07/02/2014 10:35:31 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Citizen Zed

This young man’s family can take comfort in the fact that their son gave his life for Obama’s manufactured “crisis”, and he never lets one go to waste.


4 posted on 07/02/2014 10:38:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Citizen Zed

This article piles it especially high and deep


5 posted on 07/02/2014 10:38:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Citizen Zed
What's the left worried about? The kid was just a very late term abortion. They should be rejoicing.
6 posted on 07/02/2014 10:39:46 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Citizen Zed

Any parent that would allow their child to take that trek does not get my pity. The child does for having horrible parents who sent him to his end.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 10:40:41 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Jim from C-Town

He probably would have stayed home if 0bama had not deliberately encouraged him to make the trip. I feel sorry for the kid.


8 posted on 07/02/2014 10:41:05 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: Citizen Zed

I blame Obama and his Administration and then his parents, in that order...


9 posted on 07/02/2014 10:42:24 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“The better treatment would have been if he stayed,” ...He died of heat stroke on an airplane we sent him up here with? I ain’t traveling on that airline.


10 posted on 07/02/2014 10:43:18 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Citizen Zed
I am sorry, but BS meter is up on this one! I mean this is Dickensian!
11 posted on 07/02/2014 10:43:35 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: Citizen Zed

If those countries south of the border weren’t so corrupted they would be able to provide for their citizens rather than dumping them here for US taxpayers to pay for their “dreams” -


12 posted on 07/02/2014 10:43:58 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: Citizen Zed
This kid's parents should have referred to Christ's command to “render unto Caesar”.In this case “Caesar” (the United States Government) says that the kid cannot enter the United States in that fashion.
13 posted on 07/02/2014 10:47:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: GraceG
Agreed !! Obama Amnesty Rhetoric drew this kid to the US.
14 posted on 07/02/2014 10:47:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Jim from C-Town
He should have stayed at home.

Yeah. Cry me a rio. Uno rio grande.

15 posted on 07/02/2014 10:47:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: dforest

Any parent that would allow their child to take that trek does not get my pity.... I sincerely believe he didn’t “trek”. He was bussed, pointed to the border and got lost. ORRRR, he dehydrated on the plane.


16 posted on 07/02/2014 10:47:26 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Citizen Zed

We need to end the incentives and this humanitarian crisis would be over.


17 posted on 07/02/2014 10:48:22 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: forgotten man

I agree with you. I feel terrible for the poor of Latin America. However, we can not be expected to absorb every person that wants to come to our country.

Had we no social safety net, we would NOT have unlimited amounts of people making their way illegally into our country. But we do. So every poverty stricken person in the World knows they will live better than 99% of the citizens in their own Hell Hole country if they can simply be put on the dole in America. Hence an open border adjacent to a Third World country like Mexico is a recipe for human disaster.


18 posted on 07/02/2014 10:49:37 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Nice try, lib press.

You pay for them.

We won’t.


19 posted on 07/02/2014 10:59:41 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Citizen Zed

“...en route to a better life.”

He made it!


20 posted on 07/02/2014 10:59:48 AM PDT by moovova
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To: PGR88
Yep! From the article"The trip cost $5,400, and the family had borrowed $2,600 of that, paying $2,000 the first week of the journey and another $600 the week before he died. They still owe the debt".

Where did this poor family get this money? This is made up, time will tell. If we had a real media, they would track this down.

21 posted on 07/02/2014 11:01:22 AM PDT by defconw (LUTFA!)
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To: Citizen Zed
Guatemalan boy with white rosary found dead in Texas desert en route to a better life

Looks like he found it...with GOD! Another Obama miracle/milagro.

22 posted on 07/02/2014 11:02:24 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SkyDancer

“If those countries south of the border weren’t so corrupted they would be able to provide for their citizens rather than dumping them here for US taxpayers to pay for their “dreams”

Well put. Over the years, I’ve heard it said (a number of times) that Mexico regards all these illegal aliens as a pressure release valve of sorts for their nation.

They don’t have to pay for them, they don’t have to worry about them voting and most importantly, they don’t have to worry about what would appear to be a massive uprising if all of them had stayed.


23 posted on 07/02/2014 11:02:26 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Citizen Zed
Ubama killed him.

Ubama made sure that everybody in Central America knew the gates were wide open for "unaccompanied children." He was placing ads for people to "accompany" them in January.

Ubama is a child/human trafficker, exploiting the most vulnerable people on Earth for his own political gain.

24 posted on 07/02/2014 11:07:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Citizen Zed

Awwwwww. Now I feel sooooooo bad ... Oh, what the heck. Let’s just open the borders up completely. And provide busses for these unfortunate children. Maybe even fly them in. First class. And suuply them with plenty of rosary p0olish. And some shirts.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 11:13:29 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Ubama is a child/human trafficker, exploiting the most vulnerable people on Earth for his own political gain."

Exactly. I don't blame this kid Gilberto, may he rest in peace. I blame the conscienceless men and women) in the Obama administration who bribed and incentivized desperately needy people to "come an' get it while the gettin's good."

And end up dehydrated, raped, blistered, bleeding, sodomized, infected, and dead.

26 posted on 07/02/2014 11:18:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Death and life have contended in that combat stupendous. - Victimae paschali laudes)
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To: Citizen Zed

This may be a little harsh but my first reaction was, good another one we won’t have to pay for. His parents and the coyotes are responsible, no US.


27 posted on 07/02/2014 11:19:24 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: All

WOW talk about headline propaganda.

Now the anecdote becomes the lie becomes the meme “for the children”...


28 posted on 07/02/2014 11:21:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Citizen Zed
Guatemalan boy with white rosary found dead in Texas desert
en route to a better life WHILE INVADING THE USA!

No sympathy from me.

29 posted on 07/02/2014 11:21:54 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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30 posted on 07/02/2014 11:24:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Don’t care, good riddance, not my responsibility, but is the responsibility of his POS mother and the instigator of this crap, Il Douchebag Obama. They are to blame.


31 posted on 07/02/2014 11:25:42 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Citizen Zed

If only gays could marry, this sort of thing would never happen.


32 posted on 07/02/2014 11:27:53 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: moovova

My thought as well. The Hevenly Father said come on home.


33 posted on 07/02/2014 11:28:44 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Citizen Zed

A child died. We need to re-write the constitution to prevent this from happening again.


34 posted on 07/02/2014 11:30:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: dforest

“Any parent that would allow their child to take that trek does not get my pity. “

I agree.

The very people who are pitying these parents would go NUTS if we left a dog in a hot car.

They just don’t get it.

.


35 posted on 07/02/2014 11:37:15 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Citizen Zed

This is a sad story but its not the fault of the US government or coservatives who want border security that it happened. It is the fault of the parents who let him go and the open borders crew who encouraged him to come.


36 posted on 07/02/2014 11:41:10 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: defconw
That's been bugging me too, because we hear a lot of stories like this:

"There is no running or potable water and only a latrine in the family home. In the kitchen, there is food, tortillas or wheat atole, an oatmeal-like drink, but never enough... Gilberto slept on a piece of foam on the floor... The trip cost $5,400, and the family had borrowed $2,600 of that..."

Okay now... the older brother did this and can only send an average of $125 a month. At that rate, how long does it take to pay off a loan like this? Let's see... years! So how long before it actually turns a profit? Years! And is a 15 year old going to be able to do that? Doubtful.

And who is loaning them this money?? If they can loan them money for this, why not instead loan them money to...oh, I don't know, dig a well? Install a toilet? Buy seeds to plant food and expand the garden? Buy a cow? Buy some condoms so you don't keep having kids you can't feed?? I just... I just don't get this.

37 posted on 07/02/2014 11:47:28 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: dforest

The mother said she tried to talk him out of it but he wouldn’t listen. I actually believe her because I work with inner city kids in L.A. and they are almost all from Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador. And boys do not listen to mama. She’s only a woman. By 13, when mama talks, they have this look on their face like “Yeah, yeah. Go make my bed.” And the mothers are very diffident with their boys. I guess it’s a cultural thing.


38 posted on 07/02/2014 11:50:39 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: MplsSteve
Mexico regards all these illegal aliens as a pressure release valve of sorts for their nation.

Not just that, they are a source of revenue. They send remittances back. Mexico is awash in American dollars. Some years they actually make more money from remittances than from oil.

39 posted on 07/02/2014 11:53:28 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Mears
The very people who are pitying these parents would go NUTS if we left a dog in a hot car.

That is a VERY good point.

40 posted on 07/02/2014 11:56:52 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Citizen Zed

May GOD give him a better life in heaven. He deserves it. Bless his family...


41 posted on 07/02/2014 12:21:58 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: A_perfect_lady

She is the parent. Parents are in charge. I do not know the age of this kid, but if this kid is under 18, they should not allow their child to do this.

You can blame Obama for this. I would wager they had their minions down there encouraging these kids to come here.

This is immoral and the outcome of immoral people who care only about power.

That does not mean it is our job to fix it. If we care, we should dump this administration from power and bring them up on charges. This whole thing is sickening.


42 posted on 07/02/2014 3:15:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Citizen Zed

Rule by anecdote.


43 posted on 07/02/2014 7:50:56 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: longtermmemmory
Now the anecdote becomes the lie becomes the meme “for the children”...

Flashbangs. They're for the children.

44 posted on 07/02/2014 7:54:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Citizen Zed

But there is good news; the puppy survived.


45 posted on 07/02/2014 9:48:57 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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