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OTC Birth Control: Your Body, Your Choice, Your Responsibility
The Federalist ^ | July 1, 2014 | Ben Domenech

Posted on 07/02/2014 5:39:51 PM PDT by right-wing agnostic

Yesterday’s narrow Hobby Lobby decision shows why the culture war isn’t over – it’s just getting started. The reality is that in the absence of the ability to compel employers to pay for things over their religious objections, and at a time when covering 16 forms of birth control out of 20 is culturally insufficient, the Obama administration will be more than happy to turn to the traditional method of the left: skipping the middle man of the employer and just handing people other people’s money.

So because some people cannot be compelled to pay for their employee’s IUDs, Plan B, and Ella, everyone will be compelled to pay for it. It renders the whole argument over deeply held religious beliefs a cute sideshow: if employers can’t be forced to pay for it, all taxpayers will. Congratulations on retaining your personal image of faithfulness while sticking the rest of us with the bill.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: employermandate; firstamendment; freedomofreligion; obamacare

1 posted on 07/02/2014 5:39:51 PM PDT by right-wing agnostic
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To: right-wing agnostic

The people WANTED Marxism and the introduction to Marxism is what they are getting. God save the Republic!


2 posted on 07/02/2014 5:41:44 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: right-wing agnostic

This may not be a bad idea on birth control pills. However, isn’t there some danger associated with the abortifacient drugs, especially if used on a regular basis?


3 posted on 07/02/2014 5:57:58 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: right-wing agnostic
People don’t naturally assume that over the counter drugs should be available for free: they think they should be able to buy them.

No, I think "People" assume that they should be able to buy them with our money. That's what we object to.

4 posted on 07/02/2014 6:02:47 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: right-wing agnostic

-——if employers can’t be forced to pay for it, all taxpayers will. Congratulations on retaining your personal image of faithfulness while sticking the rest of us with the bill.-——

That’s a disingenuous argument....

He supposes that OTC birth control will somehow be paid for though a mandate from the federal government via the taxpayer...

I don’t see how that works....

First the FDA needs to approve them for OTC... Which isn’t going to happen for a host of good reasons....


5 posted on 07/02/2014 6:22:08 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Almost surprised it’s taken ~100 years to go from Republic to ‘swirling the bowl’ Banana Republic (@ best)

Course, we have many here who vote party over Republic/lesser-of-2-evils (cause winning is ALL....as if the Bush years w/ a full GOP Congress didn’t tell ‘em all they needed to know about ‘small gov’t’ “opposition”)


6 posted on 07/02/2014 8:27:00 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Well, at least the Supreme Court didn’t stop payment to us men for our condoms - no, wait a minute.....


7 posted on 07/02/2014 8:56:30 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Girlene

All hormonal contraceptives are a Class 1 carcinogen, as well as increasing the incidence of heart attack, stroke, and thrombosis.


8 posted on 07/03/2014 3:30:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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To: Tax-chick

Most of the warnings for birth control pills are more dire after a certain age - (30 or 35?), but I take your point.


9 posted on 07/03/2014 7:40:18 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Girlene

Any kind of carcinogen is more likely to affect you as you get older and the years of exposure accumulate.

After my daughter joined the military and was considering the prescription you can get that will prevent menstruation - a variant on standard b/c pills - she decided against it because she was smoking at the time, and the chance of stroke or coronary for smokers can’t be ignored even if you’re 21.


10 posted on 07/03/2014 1:29:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

They’ll pay for your sterilization, no deductible or copay. But if you need surgery to fix something wrong, rather than break something that works right, you’re SOL.


11 posted on 07/03/2014 1:30:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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But if you need surgery to fix something wrong, rather than break something that works right, you’re SOL...no kiddin' - try to get help for prostate cancer after you're 75 - "well, anything we could do for you would be more unpleasant than the cancer, and you're going to die of something else before it does you in anyhow, so....."
12 posted on 07/03/2014 4:29:36 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Tax-chick

I didn’t even know such a thing existed (the variation on b/c pills).


13 posted on 07/03/2014 5:12:14 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Tax-chick

You have to be 24 before Tricare will pay for a vasectomy for you. Or so I have been told.


14 posted on 07/03/2014 5:15:58 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Tax-chick

Not for you since you wouldn’t need one. Lol


15 posted on 07/03/2014 5:46:07 PM PDT by petitfour
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Quick way to keep from ending up with more Tricare enrollees.


16 posted on 07/03/2014 5:46:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

One might get the idea the Obama administration wants Americans to (a) not be born and (b) die ASAP.


17 posted on 07/03/2014 5:47:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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Oh but they won’t allow a guy younger than that to have one out of fear that he will later decide he wants it reversed.


18 posted on 07/03/2014 5:47:51 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Girlene

Something to do with dosage or something. I know, that’s absolutely no information at all ...


19 posted on 07/03/2014 5:48:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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To: petitfour

Because you’re all grown up and ready to make permanent decisions at 24! Yeah, right. My son is 20 and can’t even make himself a dentist appointment.

Iirc, it used to be they’d do a tubal ligation when a woman was 30.


20 posted on 07/03/2014 5:49:57 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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Lol. My son is just as pathetic. But why limit it to youth? Lol. I better stop before I start bashing the males I know.

I don’t know about Tricare and tubal ligations. (spell check changed that to libations. Lol) After watching a friend nearly die from a tubal pregnancy due to a tubal ligation, I wouldn’t recommend that to anyone. Of course, I wouldn’t have recommended it before that either . . .


21 posted on 07/03/2014 5:56:44 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Tax-chick

I should say my sons! I think my oldest will get along ok. But the second one is, uh, not much concerned about anything.


22 posted on 07/03/2014 5:59:21 PM PDT by petitfour
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My oldest is so drifty I’m almost afraid to leave him home alone. It’s like he’s got Alzheimer’s at 20. “Bill, you left the stove on again?” “Oh?”

I think it’s Digital Dementia.


23 posted on 07/03/2014 6:00:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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Son#2 does lose himself in the cyber world when given the opportunity. He will surface in our house long enough to cook himself something to eat and to leave the dirty pans and dishes on the stove, on the counter, in the sink, on the table, wherever! He does everything the same way. If he reads, he reads without interruption. If he plays ball, he goes all out. If he plays a game on the Internet, he plays to be the best. But he wouldn’t begin to know how to make a doctor appointment. He could fill out the forms at the doctor’s office. Son#1 leaves paperwork to others.


24 posted on 07/03/2014 6:11:42 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Tax-chick

One certainly might.....


25 posted on 07/03/2014 8:50:39 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: petitfour

My son will be doing one thing on his laptop, playing a game on his DS, texting on his phone, and listening to music all at once. But at least (as he often reminds us) he’s not a felon, like the boy across the street.


26 posted on 07/04/2014 3:10:53 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I die before I wake, feed Jake.)
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