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Posted on 07/02/2014 7:15:39 PM PDT by Phillyred



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Anyone go see this today? Impressions? I just got back with my two sons. It was really good and should be required reading for all middle and high school children. I almost was brought to tear knowing that the American story is being buried and distorted by an evil elite in this nation. I thought about how many kids will never know this information. How many will never feel the love I feel for this nation's founding and principles. It made me realize how far we have fallen allowing our education system to create leftists for too long.
1 posted on 07/02/2014 7:15:39 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

I saw it today and it was a great movie! The theater was about 1/2 filled, which was pretty good considering it was a matinee. Also, people were yelling “Liar!” every time they would show Obama speaking. Great ovation at the end also.
See it!


2 posted on 07/02/2014 7:17:49 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Phillyred

correction...”required viewing”


3 posted on 07/02/2014 7:19:25 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

My family and I saw it last night. We all felt different parts were very good, but D’Souza didn’t really tie it all up together at the end. It kind of felt like we were watching several incomplete films. It was fascinating, though. And the Alinsky/Hillary part — creepy.


4 posted on 07/02/2014 7:24:16 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: Phillyred
correction...”required viewing”

I think you were right the first time.

I read the book last weekend and saw the movie earlier today. In the movie Dinesh hits you with all the anti-American points one after the other. Then he tries to convince you where each point is incorrectly presented by modern education, the lame stream media, etc. In the book, each chapter takes a single anti-American point and counterpoints it in much more detail. The book is far more convincing from a raw factual standpoint. The movie is more emotion driven.
5 posted on 07/02/2014 7:24:24 PM PDT by plsvn
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To: South40

~~~Also, people were yelling “Liar!” every time they would show Obama speaking~~~

Great. Not everyone is asleep in this nation.


6 posted on 07/02/2014 7:25:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Phillyred

Good patriotic TV in some limited areas over the 4th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnkHHSTpMY0&feature=youtu.be

Its on PBS but its about the best thing you’ll ever see on PBS. James Riley is a solid conservative filmmaker.


7 posted on 07/02/2014 7:27:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Phillyred

Dinesh D’Souza will debate Obama’s pal, domestic terrorist Bill Ayers on Megyn Kelly’s show on Fox, July 4. They are showing previews of it tonight. This is going to be really good. Ayers hatred for this nation is countered by d’Souza’s live and respect.


8 posted on 07/02/2014 7:29:00 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Phillyred

Here is what the local (non partisan) film critic in the free paper,” The Alibi” says:

America
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If you’re feeling extra jingoistic and xenophobic this Independence Day, why not check out the latest right-wing hootenany from writer-director Dinesh D’Souza (2016: Obama’s America)? In this ... let’s charitably call it a “documentary,” D’Souza calls out all the Americans who hate America (read: “democrats”) and imagines an alternate reality in which America lost the Revolutionary War. The point of all this? Liberals are stupid and slavery wasn’t all that bad. (It was character-building, black people!). Also, Saul Alinsky was Satan, Matt Damon is a poo-poo head and Mexicans are destroying our country. Good night. Sleep tight. 103 minutes PG-13. (Opens Wednesday 7/2)


9 posted on 07/02/2014 7:30:22 PM PDT by woofie
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To: llmc1

Yeah I know what you mean. I was hoping for a bit more, but it was a great start. Alinsky’s voice was creeping me out. What an evil sob.


10 posted on 07/02/2014 7:32:17 PM PDT by Phillyred
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live love and respect.
11 posted on 07/02/2014 7:39:38 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Phillyred

Saw it first showing.

I thought it made many great points but I preferred 2016.


12 posted on 07/02/2014 7:40:07 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Phillyred

I heard Dinesh interviewed and he said that while many know of Alinsky’s political activism, few realize that he was a street thug enamored with the stylings of Al Capone.


13 posted on 07/02/2014 7:41:35 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative

I saw it tonight and thought it is a good sequel to 2016. Liked the portrayals.


14 posted on 07/02/2014 7:50:52 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Phillyred

I’m actually hoping to see it tomorrow. I’m so glad you liked it.


15 posted on 07/02/2014 8:27:17 PM PDT by Gefn (More cowbell)
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To: Phillyred
Most of the critics panned it without providing objective arguments for their dislike of it. Some did comment the production qualities were more like a made for TV movie. On this latter point, I would agree, it is more like something you would see on A&E or History Channel.

That said, it is very good. It takes a few of the left's complaints about America and provides objective counter arguments. The dramatizations are good, the actors in the dramatizations are good.

The interviews are impressive because of two reasons: One, D'Souza actually gets hard-left radicals to sit down and be interviewed by him; and they all pretty much fall into his trap of showing off their radical views.

I agree with one poster the movie becomes disjointed as it moves from dismantling the left's complaints to the section on Saul Alinsky. But D'Souza was trying to explain how Obama would "remake" America by first "unmaking" America, and Alinsky provided a process for unmaking America.

I also think the IRS and NSA issues were not framed in a way that flowed well or built up the message of the movie well.

I think this latter part of the movie could have been done better.

I was amazed at how I was able to predict D'Souza's thesis as he went through his narration. In my head, I was literally finishing his sentences for him. I realize conservatives don't just believe alike, we think alike.

The absolute best premise in the movie was how D'Souza used Alexis de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America" as the counter-argument for Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States". This was truly brilliant.

Overall, I liked this movie much better than 2016. I am not sure I bought D'Souza's premise in 2016 that Obama had unresolved daddy issues, or that his politics was based in anti-colonialism. However, in America I learned a lot.

16 posted on 07/02/2014 9:28:10 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Phillyred

I just saw it. Started out strong but got a little muddled in the middle. I actually have never seen what Alinski looks like, so the clips of him were fascinating. At first I thought they were poorly done re-enactments...the genuine Alinski is a caricature of a mobbed up politician.


17 posted on 07/02/2014 9:57:04 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Phillyred; Baynative
1 Anyone go see this today? Impressions?...

Saw it tonight with 2 buds in the Birmingham-metro area. Can't really add to what others have already stated. So I will just give an on-site report. It was shown at a local mega-plex on a very limited engagement. The actual theater was 1 of the smaller ones. About 1/2 - 2/3 full at the 6:45 p.m. showing. Demographics = 100% fair with 90% > than 50 degrees. Very similar turn out to his 2012 production. I liked it. Hope he keeps it up - someone needs too.

8 Dinesh D'Souza will debate Obama's pal, domestic terrorist Bill Ayers on Megyn Kelly's show on Fox, July 4. They are showing previews of it tonight. This is going to be really good. Ayers hatred for this nation is countered by d'Souza's live and respect.

I missed Miss Megyn tonight since I went to see "America". Will this debate on July-4 between D'Souza and Ayers be something new, or will it be video clips from their 2 hour debate earlier this year at D'Souza's alma mater, Dartmouth? I am curious because I just can't come up with a motivation for why Ayers agreed to be interviewed by Miss Megyn the past 2 nights (actually, 6/30/2014).

YouTube - Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Ayers Debate at Dartmouth
video run time - 02:05:16 hours
1/30/2014

18 posted on 07/03/2014 12:34:56 AM PDT by MacNaughton (John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.)
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To: lacrew

I thought Alinsky was like a character from the Twilight Zone.


19 posted on 07/03/2014 6:00:59 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: woofie

Wonder what kind of neighborhood that critic lives in? Probably a lily-white one where the only Mexican he sees is the gardener.


20 posted on 07/03/2014 9:25:16 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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