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It's Obama's presidency, but Bush's world
yahoo.com ^ | 7/3/2014 | Matt Bai

Posted on 07/03/2014 11:16:13 AM PDT by Beave Meister

Believe it or not, it was 10 years ago this month that Barack Obama, then a candidate for the U.S. Senate, introduced himself to America with a speech that shook the Fleet Center in Boston. The main theme of that Democratic convention was the litany of George W. Bush's failures — an unpopular and unending war in Iraq, a faltering image abroad, a stagnating middle class. Obama gave eloquent voice to those frustrations, arguing that all of them could be addressed if only we reunited the electorate. Probably Obama himself would not have guessed then that he would ascend to the White House just four years later. But he certainly wouldn't have imagined that a full decade on, nearing the halfway point in his second term, he would find himself dragged down by precisely the same set of issues that vexed his predecessor.

After a month that saw Iraq unravel and job growth continue to plod along, while the stock market soared, the central paradox of the Obama years, as historians will undoubtedly view it, has never been clearer. It's Obama's presidency, but he's still governing in Bush's world.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bush; democrats; economy; fastandfurious; fraud; irs; liberals; lyingliberlliars; nsa; obama; obamacare; va
Bush did not surround himself with incompetent idiots. Bush didn't create scandals like Benghazi, IRS, NSA, Fast and Furious, VA, Obamacare just to name a few. People in America and around the world who once liked Obama are now starting to dislike Obama because they're beginning to understand he's he's nothing more than a lying Communist buffoon.
1 posted on 07/03/2014 11:16:13 AM PDT by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

I did pretty well during the Bush years. The economy was humming along pretty nicely much as it did when Newt Gingrich was, for all practical purposes, the President in the 1990’s.


2 posted on 07/03/2014 11:20:21 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Beave Meister

Ever covering for the won, the press is.


3 posted on 07/03/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: Beave Meister
introduced himself to America with a speech that shook the Fleet Center in Boston.

That speech was so preposterous that I turned him off when he got to the childish nonsense about: "not red American and blue America, but one American," etc., etc. Only someone with a childish and ignorant view of the world would think, let alone desire, an America where everyone was in agreement and there were no divisions.

That could only exist where there were no individual rights and no right to oppose the government. That was an idiotic speech.

4 posted on 07/03/2014 11:27:26 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Beave Meister

Reagan inherited Carter’s world. He left it Reagan’s world, and it was much better for it.


5 posted on 07/03/2014 11:30:35 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Beave Meister

No matter what, it’s Bush’s fault, according to Bambi.

Obama is an ass. Well, a Muslim Marxist ass who is stupid as the day is long but extremely ideological.

What he “inherited” was a downturn in the economy from policies pushed by the Dems (who had the legislative majority) and which Bush was not strong enough to oppose. Bush was a very weak president, and once the press had managed to get a Dem majority installed, Bush spent the rest of his presidency cringing and trying to make nice.

But Bambi also inherited an Iraq that was struggling but stable and headed in the right direction, thanks to the surge that he and most of the Dems opposed, and things would have been a lot different had he not dumped Iraq immediately and imposed conditions in Afghanistan that meant we would have no effect there and would never be able to stabilize anything.

And yes, Bush’s advisers were much more competent, and there really weren’t any “scandals” under Bush, no matter how the press and the Dems tried to find or create them.


6 posted on 07/03/2014 11:38:39 AM PDT by livius
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To: Beave Meister
Bai claims that he isn't blaming Bush in the article but then proceeds to do precisely that. It isn't "Bush's" world any more than it's "0bama's" - both men occupied the office of the Presidency dealing with what Bai admits are similar problems, neither one perfectly. I suspect that my opinion of which one dealt with them better would not agree with Bai's.

The bottom line is that 0bama derided Bush for faults that he displayed himself, promised cures he did not provide, and unlike Bush he refuses to blame himself for anything. The difference between the two isn't the times, it's the men.

7 posted on 07/03/2014 11:44:15 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Beave Meister

This article is utter tripe. I feel less evolved having wasted my time reading it.


8 posted on 07/03/2014 11:45:16 AM PDT by karnage
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To: henkster

Yeah, and Reagan turned a worse mess around in only 3 stinking years.


9 posted on 07/03/2014 12:18:50 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: livius
No matter what, it’s Bush’s fault, according to Bambi.

Obama has followed FDR's strategy of blaming Hoover for the Depression. It worked for years until the economy started to go south again in the late 30's.

Democrats are liars thru and thru.

10 posted on 07/03/2014 12:26:29 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Phillyred

And Reagan never blamed Carter.


11 posted on 07/03/2014 12:27:05 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: Beave Meister
. . . introduced himself to America with a speech that shook the Fleet Center in Boston
And now we're LONG overdue for a national
12 posted on 07/03/2014 12:53:16 PM PDT by mikrofon (Hap-helion Day 2014 ... 94.5M miles)
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To: what's up; henkster

It’s very difficult, because GOP presidents always just want to let by gones be by gones and move ahead - which I think is a great idea. But to my knowledge, no modern Dem has ever done that.

The press is part of the problem; can you imagine how they would be howling if any of the cutely named “scandals” (actually gross legal and constitutional violations) committed by Obama were happening under a GOP president? For one thing, any GOPer who did what Obama has done wouldn’t even be in office anymore, and he’d be lucky not to be in jail.


13 posted on 07/03/2014 1:07:52 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
how they would be howling if any of the cutely named “scandals” (actually gross legal and constitutional violations) committed by Obama were happening under a GOP president

Bush was a remarkably clean President. The Dems were desperate to find scandals in his admin and there were none so they had to invent one (Valerie Plame).

The MSM went on for months about Plame...there was NOTHING there!

With Obama there has been a new scandal every week from Day One. The MSM covers it for a day or so and then move on...leading the public into thinking there's nothing there.

14 posted on 07/03/2014 1:18:44 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Will88
I recall being impressed by the sound of the speech while it was being delivered and then asking myself at the end: "What has he said?" As I pondered that I realized that he had said everything, had been on all sides of every issue and never lit anywhere in any way to reflect leadership ability. That is the way he has continued to operate.

It is his entire history that he does that to get close enough to people that he can have thugs stab them in the back. It worked for him right up into the Oval Office where he is now, for the first time, accurately seen by a majority as a terrible President. That is the inevitablle consequence of his MO. He will not change; he wil only blame others

Bush was right on a lot of points. Had his vision on the WOT been pursued all the way through things would be much better. The lame stream will never face that truth; they will continue to lie.

15 posted on 07/03/2014 1:31:05 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: what's up
There was a scandal every day being trumpeted every hour by the MSM communist media.
Earthquake, bush' fault. Skinned knee on a child, Bush is a child abuser.
And on and on. It was so pathetic and it didn't work, Bush was re-elected.

All the revisionist propaganda going on now is even worse than the Bush Derangement Syndrome.
It has come to Obama Derangement Syndrome in how they worship that Pathetic half breed loser.

16 posted on 07/03/2014 1:42:25 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Beave Meister

Six years into the Obama presidency, and the lamest of the lame are still whining, “It’s Bush’s fault.”

Sorry, that never cut it, and it CERTAINLY doesn’t cut it now.


17 posted on 07/03/2014 6:10:25 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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