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Are ‘American’ cars going extinct?
Fox News ^ | July 04, 2014

Posted on 07/04/2014 10:13:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Want to buy an American car? Better get one while they last.

Only 10 vehicles qualified this year for the annual American-Made Index from Cars.com, and just three of them are from domestic brands.

The Ford F-150 pickup took the top spot for the second year in a row, while the Chevrolet Corvette Stingray came in seventh and the Detroit-built Dodge SRT Viper rounded out the list in tenth. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: americancars; cars; detroit; extinction; uaw; vehicles

1 posted on 07/04/2014 10:13:52 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Dodge is not an American company


2 posted on 07/04/2014 10:16:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

That’s a fact. Tony fixed ‘em again.


3 posted on 07/04/2014 10:17:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Earth to journalistic weenies. Articles with a title in the form of a question are lame. If you aren’t confident enough to state a conclusion in the affirmative based on your research, then find another profession that doesn’t require an actual opinion.


4 posted on 07/04/2014 10:27:03 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

What do you want from Roger Ailes; he’s spending all of his time over the past three years trying to rework Fox News into AP part deux.


5 posted on 07/04/2014 10:30:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SpaceBar

Oooh! Rough, but I agree.


6 posted on 07/04/2014 10:40:32 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: GeronL

My USA owned and operated employer makes a lot of Chrysler parts though. Honda, VW, Ford, GM and a host of foreign owned electronics makers for many other auto makers as well. Jobs are jobs


7 posted on 07/04/2014 10:41:02 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Olog-hai

Government Motors is not a real car company.


8 posted on 07/05/2014 1:06:01 AM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: Olog-hai

American car companies refused to make quality products. The Japanese made them. They win.

After owning American cars only for many years, I finally gave up.

My Camry has over 150 thousand miles and only requires basic maintenance of oil, tires, brakes, etc,.


9 posted on 07/05/2014 2:29:52 AM PDT by sakic
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To: GeronL

Dodge is part of Chrysler which is owned by Fiat an Italian Corporation. I think what they are saying is that particular Dodge Model is Manufactured and assembled in America.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 3:24:59 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Figment

Yep. Its amazing how few FReepers have a clue about how manufacturing works. I made primarily Cadillac parts but also made Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Mitsubishi, and even Mercedes parts in the same union shop.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 3:25:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

There is NO American made car with 100% “Made in America” parts, this includes all component parts both inside and out. Describe just one!


12 posted on 07/05/2014 4:05:01 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: DaveA37

There aren’t any just like there are no cars made without union made parts.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 4:12:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Olog-hai

Looks like the UAW is closing in on VICTORY by DESTROYING the ability of Americans to make their own cars.

Must be a bunch of VERY HAPPY people there.


14 posted on 07/05/2014 4:17:03 AM PDT by BobL
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To: sakic
My Camry has over 150 thousand miles and only requires basic maintenance of oil, tires, brakes, etc.

My sister-in-law’s Camry has over 117,000 miles on it.

My 2003 Ford Crown Victoria has over 170,000 miles and only requires basic maintenance of oil, tires, brakes, etc.

I just made a 3,000 mile round trip with no preparation other than to check tire inflation. The car is still a pleasure to drive and averaged 24 MPG for the trip.

15 posted on 07/05/2014 5:06:23 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: MosesKnows

Your Camery May have been vssembled in the US, and your Crown Vic in Canada (check the VIN number fist digit is county of manufacture. 1 is US, 2 is Canada, J is Japan).

Cars all all international now, most new ones are made for global markets from parts made in many counties by investor owned companies with offices in many different countries.

I can say that The large mid range V 8 sedan or economy 6 is dead or dying


16 posted on 07/05/2014 5:41:36 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: Olog-hai

As long as American Unions are part of the democRAT party, I will never buy a union made American car.


17 posted on 07/05/2014 6:14:44 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: cripplecreek
I made primarily Cadillac parts but also made Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Mitsubishi, and even Mercedes parts in the same union shop.

I worked in the same GM plant and saw GMC and Mitsubishi small commercial trucks come off the same line (Janesville, WI).

In your parts operation, could you detect any difference in specification that would make the Mercedes and Cadillac parts better than the Ford and Mitsubishi parts?
18 posted on 07/05/2014 7:03:00 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: sakic

There seem to be lots of 1990s Camrys still on the road.

My last car was an ’01 Echo; I put over 260K on it before it started to conk out. (I wasn’t very nice to it either.)


19 posted on 07/05/2014 7:05:58 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: sakic

Well you just stated my argument to my brother in law.

I’m not going to collude with the American auto makers so they can manufacture a car with built in obsolescence. I finally got sick of having to change the fuel pump at 40,000 miles or all the other parts that start to wear out about 100,000 miles sooner than my Honda CRV.

If American cars go by the wayside its because their business model is poor and they cannot compete. Plus there will always be somebody else to come up and fill the vacumn.

There is a new 90% American made 3 wheel car that is going to go into production in Shreveport, LA at the end of 2015. Its $6,800 total price with A/C, radio, auto door locks standard. 84 MPG, 107 MPH, 36,000 mile/3 year warranty and a 5 star crash rating. We plan to buy one as soon as production starts. check it out at eliomotors.com


20 posted on 07/05/2014 7:24:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: sakic

“My Camry has over 150 thousand miles and only requires basic maintenance of oil, tires, brakes, etc,.”

Our current vehicles:

2004 Honda CR-V - 218,000 miles
1998 Ford E-350 Club Wagon 305,000 miles
1997 Subaru Outback - 242,000 miles

Previous cars:

1990 Mazda 626 - 426,000 miles (totaled in accident, otherwise running fine until the end)
1985 Subaru GL-10 235,000 ( mouse nest in the heater spontaneously combusted and burned the wiring, so we took it “off the road”. It now pulls a DR Road Grader to level the ruts in our 14-18% grade mountain road. The two speed transfer case and 5 speed manual transmission give two great “grannie gears” for pulling the grader up those hills!)


21 posted on 07/05/2014 7:28:11 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: Dr. Sivana
In your parts operation, could you detect any difference in specification that would make the Mercedes and Cadillac parts better than the Ford and Mitsubishi parts?

Back in 1978 I was going to school working on my Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic rating. During one class our instructor passed around a Cessna alternator, costing, IIRC, $435. Then he passed around the class another "Ford" alternator, asking us to determine the differences.

After 5 minutes of collective head scratching, no one could see ANY difference between the size, shapes, connectors, castings, visible wire sizes and insulation types. The instructor then show us a thumbnail sized "PMA" stamp, indication that it conformed to the FAA "Parts Manufacturer Approval" standards.

They had been manufactured on the same production line, but the Cessna $435 alternator had the FAA paperwork and the Ford $75 alternator did not.

22 posted on 07/05/2014 7:40:21 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: Dr. Sivana
In your parts operation, could you detect any difference in specification that would make the Mercedes and Cadillac parts better than the Ford and Mitsubishi parts?

Over all not really but Mercedes was extraordinarily picky about some odd things but that's typical of German manufacturing. I was one of only 5 people in the shop allowed to paint the underside of 1.5 x 2.5 inch ashtray lids that would never be seen by anyone. They had to be absolutely perfect. An American rep from Merc did give me a decent explanation about why. He said that German workers weren't going to be that picky about them and it was a showpiece part that could be grabbed off a German assembly line at random and be perfect every single time.

Cadillac could be kind of picky in ways that didn't make much sense too. We had a problem with a tiny paint run on the bottom side of a doorskin. The robots just couldn't get it right, the paint was either too light or too heavy. Short of having a person stand there and paint that section by hand. Finally Cadillac came back with an acceptable parameter for the flaw. It was something that didn't interfere with the workings of the door and wouldn't be seen by anyone without laying on the ground and looking up at the bottom of the door.
23 posted on 07/05/2014 7:57:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Olog-hai

My first brand new car was a Ford sedan whose undistinguished name I cannot recall. It was junk.

My second was a VW Passat Wagon. It too had issues, and the came over on a slow boat from Germany.

Then I had a new Eurovan which was broken for weeks at a time during a time that I had a new baby.

Since I got a Honda Pilot, my life has been automotively perfect. 2004 Honda Pilot 185,000 miles. I am petrified to get a new car because it will be a piece of junk.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 8:39:27 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Olog-hai

Yesterday’s Independence Day parade there was a Pearl Harbor Survivor riding in a Honda SUV. Only a few of us old folks caught the irony.


25 posted on 07/05/2014 8:42:06 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: GeronL

I will never buy a car from any company that took bail-out money. . .money that was used to cover for union excesses, fraud and abuse.


26 posted on 07/05/2014 9:39:38 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: BwanaNdege

If Teslas ever fall into my price range, I am there.

Have two friends who own them who both maintain they will never buy anything else as long as Teslas are available.


27 posted on 07/05/2014 1:59:10 PM PDT by sakic
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