Skip to comments.The Reign Of Windows At Work 'Is Coming To An End' And Macs Are Rising Fast
Posted on 07/05/2014 11:06:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It's been clear for some time that the iPad has taken the enterprise by storm as employees tote it to work and companies buy fleets of them. But Apple's PC, the Mac, has never been as dominant in the workplace, until now, according to new research from long-time Microsoft rival, VMware.
VMware queried 376 IT professionals and found that they are increasingly being asked to buy and/or support Macs in the enterprise by employees who want Macs, not Windows machines.
"Microsoft Windows has dominated enterprise desktops for close to three decades but it appears its reign is coming to an end. As BYOPC ["Bring Your Own PC"] and BYOD [Bring Your Own Device] continue to transform the enterprise, Macs have become a popular and preferred option compared to Windows PCs," says Erik Frieberg, VP of Marketing, End-User Computing, VMware, in the report.
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Macs have been rising fast since about 1984.
Although I am not a MS fan, I think the root of the problem is the hardware
MS is the brand, controls the software and makes all the money. At the other end, 1000 hardware makers from HP and Toshiba down to cheap-o Chinese knock off brands compete as commodity supplier whores to merely be the one to run the MS software. Their main tool is only price.
MS windows has its own problems, but I have found that any MS PC has a shelf-life of about 18-24 months before key components start to fail.
RE: Macs have been rising fast since about 1984.
So, why are they not YET as ubiquitous in the office as Windows based computers?
RE: I have found that any MS PC has a shelf-life of about 18-24 months before key components start to fail.
How about Macs?
Wait one of MS’s big rivals called a statistically insignificant number of their own clients and found they’re increasingly using not MS? Yeah, that certainly spells doom for MS (sarc). Meanwhile at my work we just recently dumped VMWare for Hyper-V.
And 2015 will be the Year of Linux too, right?
I LOL’ed hard on that one. Heh. Chips ‘n dip spew...
Overwhelming evidence. The kind I always base my market decisions on.< /s>
RE: Meanwhile at my work we just recently dumped VMWare for Hyper-V.
I’m curious, what reasons persuaded your company to do that? (DISCLOSURE: I own a large number of VMW stocks ).
Being asked to by people who don't understand what's involved in getting a Mac properly integrated into a Windows security domain doesn't translate into it actually happening.
Did that a long time ago and worked out very well.
MAC is the future and a much better OS.
Hyper-V is free in Windows 8.1,has better integration with the OS, and the VMs run faster. Also there are porting tools so the transition is easy.
Just in the past year approx my AAPL stock rose $100 a share and split 7 for 1 so ... yes. Trending up.
We’ve used Macs exclusively for home and business since 1984 and have never had one fail. We replaced them only because applications we used stopped being supported with the outdated OS’s.
My MacBook Pro is about five years old and running the latest OS. Never had a crash or any other issue and I use it hard.
They’ve made significant improvements and it would be nice to have a new one, but they don’t make the 17” screen, which I have and love, any longer. Sure, it’s bigger, but I don’t travel with it since I have an iPhone and iPad.
Maybe we’ve just been lucky, but I’ll take it.
I have 2 office/industrial-grade HP microtowers running Win-7 Pro x64/SP1 since 6/09, with zero burps/farts/fails. Maybe the exceptions, but I always buy higher-grade/upper-level machines. Pays-off in the long run.
“So, why are they not YET as ubiquitous in the office as Windows based computers?”
Because going back over twenty years, underlying virtually every enterprise financial and operations system resides Excel and/or Access. That’s why. And, that’s not going to change anytime soon.
The same amount invested in Microsoft 10 years ago would be worth $13,000 today.
I’ve owned Macs since 1991 (used Windows at work). I had a hard drive go bad in one of my Mac’s after several years of use (and it was a used one to begin with). I do think Mac’s are more reliable - never had a problem - but there are advantages to both platforms. Business Insider is not the most trusted news site for business (or much of anything else). Perhaps this is personal preference she is referring to as MS is entrenched and I don’t see that changing too much until/unless there is a real paradigm shift in the computer world (you know the Israelis developing quantum computing or something like that).
“RE: Macs have been rising fast since about 1984.
So, why are they not YET as ubiquitous in the office as Windows based computers?”
How about the cost of Macs versus good pcs. Last I heard was about 3 times the cost.
One of our younger relatives is a west coast VP of a company that is tech bound. He approved I phones and I pads and they could use the monthly corporate paid service.
When the Apple cult tried to force his company to buy Macs, he settled that problem quickly.
He told his Apple Cult members, the company would give the Mac dreamers the cost of a PC. Then, they had to personally come up with the difference in costs up front and program wise. They would own the Macs when replacement time came in a couple of years.
Guess how many Apple Cult members ponied up the difference two years latter?
Our relative is still waiting for the first one to pony up the difference.
In memory of you, Bill:
(Still got the same crappy haircut, after all these years...)
Had a brand new of each at my job. So a fair comparison.
Mac beat the pc in hardware and software. But the mac’s HD died after 3 yrs. But it never locked up. The pc would lock up almost weekly.
Apple has Windows 8 to thank for this. Windows 8 is an abomination of an operating system. The enterprise and SMB have refused to adopt it en mass, and the retail public has been fleeing it as fast as they can, holding on to their XP and W7 systems, and abandoning PCs by the millions in favor of simpler tablets.
The fools running Microsoft did this to themselves when over two years ago tens of thousands of beta testers told them that this was exactly what was going to happen and Microsoft refused to listen. Windows 8 has helped to accelerate the existing trend away from PCs instead of saving it as they claimed would happen and helped to take down every OEM hardware supplier and PC builder dependent on Windows PC sales as well, again as thousands of us predicted over two years ago.
People of the world have endured decades of victimization by Windows operating systems that have been bloated, buggy, balky, fragile and virus prone. Now people finally have alternatives, and none of these alternatives involve Microsoft products. Which is why Microsoft and their partners attempts to revive their fortunes by putting Windows on mobile (and bizarre tablet) devices are doomed. People dont WANT Windows on their mobile devices. They bought their mobile devices precisely because they were fleeing Windows.
For those who still must use Windows because of the applications and the need to do industrial-level work, I’ve consistently steered both my business and consumer clients away from Windows 8 from day one to Windows 7 instead. For a long time now, that hasn’t been a difficult sell as almost everyone by now knows a plethora of friends and neighbors who are profoundly unhappy with their shiny new Windows 8 PCs, or have had the worse misfortune to buy one for themselves against my best advice.
Sounds like another Rush commercial for Apple.
VMware is a good product, but MS is adequate. They've done some catching up. Bottom line, it's all about $$$$. The licensing and support fees for VM are cost prohibitive.
VMware (now) is a Ferrari. MS (now) is a Ford. For my needs, Ford is just fine.
If BSOD hasn't yet "transformed the enterprise," we'll see if the influx of Apple products from the bottom will do so.
Of course, if you can crony up to the Government & have the upgrades paid for where cost is not a consideration, that would help .....
If MS really wanted to trounce the competition they’d invest in building a formally verified OS, compiler[s], and a lot of their application software, too.
I’m betting the first company to make a formally-verified general-purpose consumer OS will have a tremendous opportunity to seize the market; the same with the first formally-verified fully-functional word-processor.
Any engineering company running their proprietary software on a Mac yet?
How about Shell Oil, Chevron or BP?
What about gubmint?
Damn! 30 years of rising fast and taking over all of Window’s marketshare and you’d think Apple might be a little further along ...
Posting this from Linux Mint 17 with an XFCE desktop running Firefox Nightly and Emacs 24.
For some reason Linux just doesn’t get the love. People see Macs as being “cool” when it’s Linux that you can trip out to your heart’s content. It feeds your inner nerd like nothing else.
I’m thinking about going with a tiling window manager like Xmonad or Awesome Window Manager. Want six monitors all hooked up to the same computer? These managers can do it and use only a tiny fraction of memory.
I wonder what that pie chart would look like if they polled only tech people. Linux would have a much larger slice of the pie.
For the same reason you have companies out there with hundreds of employees who are still using 20 year old 16" CRT monitors........
How about Macs?
I use Dell Precision computers for my work. The most demanding software is CAD. The Precision line is the industrial strength desktop. It costs more than the bargain computers but not by that much. I get five years before software has evolved past the capacity of the computer. I also buy a warranty. In five years expect a disk or something to fail, Dell will replace it on site.
My architect clients do like the Macs. Don't understand them. They cost more than the Dell Precisions. They need a windows card to run PC software. They have to switch operating systems a few times a day. All this requires more system software to run their pigs of machines.
I don't see an Apple takeover.
“And 2015 will be the Year of Linux too, right?”
Well my webserver that i maintain is a Linux Apache Mysql Php box and I see absolutely zero reason to go back to Microsoft. My in house software is developed on java, so again see no reason to go back. I can’t afford autocad so i’ve gone to Blender which is supported on Unix. About the only thing I’m still stuck with is Word and Excel and Star Office isn’t so bad i couldn’t swap.
I can’t be the only one in this boat. Add up all the licenses and it is a bundle I’ve saved. Microsoft Buggy Whip Corporation.
“I cant afford autocad so ive gone to Blender...”
Are you using Blender for CAD? I didn’t know that was possible.
Blender for Cad is possible, I’ve been imputting car parts. I wouldn’t clain it is autocad quality, but it will create files direct to 3d printing.
Also, just as important is being able to do 3D joint animations, as in a trapezoidal hinge.
The reason I bit the bullet and went this way is I’m an odd bird, my degree is mechanical engineering but I do a lot of political stuff and media. Blender has a video editor, 3D Text, animation, etc.
It is open source but backed in part by (I think) the Netherlands. My guess is that they will upgrade the cad with time because it isn’t that big a leap and it will make Blender much more powerful and open to acceptance.
I software plan on a two decade time frame - what will still be solid and usable 2 decades now. I bet on LAMP and Java and I think I won there. My code developed over the last decade will be good for another 20 years at least. So that’s my guess with Blender. A bitch to learn though.
I developed a system that used VMware in over 14,000 locations. I used VMware because the MS product couldn’t do what we needed to do (run a legacy Unix-based system).
My management has spent the last 5 years desperately trying to switch over to MS, but no matter how much they want it, it still won’t do the job.
There are lots of management types who would rather have a failed project than a non-Microsoft success. Stupid, but common.
FYI, Steve Balmer himself took my boss golfing to try to get back that contract.
I’m just 1 person (& very hard on my computers. Or my dog, Mia, is), but my first 2 Compaqs barely made it to 2 & were sent back for repair frequently (2-3 times a year). I’ve had 3 Macs since 2004; a G4, Powerbook, & MacBook Pro. The G4 motherboard supposedly died. The Powerbook needs a part in the hinge replaced (that illuminates the screen) but will sort of work with a cable to another monitor (user incompetence on the “sort of”). The MBP will be 3 in October. The only issue I’ve had has been power cords on the G4 & this one.
I find it most peculiar that DH prefers his Lenovo (Windows8) over my Mac. It’s slow, it’s abrasive & annoying. I’d rather do without.
I guess it’s just what you’re used to.
Oh & I have a little Lenovo S10 that has a virus, so not working. Cute, convenient, utterly worthless. I got tired of struggling with viruses, constantly.
I can vouch for that, but they are currently only about 1%, I doubt they will grow more than 3%
I thought Autodesk had most of their software running natively in OS X. I saw a demonstration of Autocad and Maya, I thought it was native. Is that not the case?
Your Mac didn't die, the HD did. Stick a new one in and your good to go again. And if you had used a second HD and made a bootable clone and updated frequently it is easy to transfer the entire system to your new HD that I assume as HD1. My Mac has 4 internal drives with two cloned bootable as backup. Almost never had any failure. Only problem is unless you copy your emails and bookmarks to a flash drive you would loose current emails from time of crash to current date.
“My guess is that they will upgrade the cad with time because it isnt that big a leap and it will make Blender much more powerful and open to acceptance.”
It makes sense that, eventually, Blender will have real CAD features. I’m amazed you can use it for 3d printing!
I’ve tried to learn Blender several times before. That interface is something else.
I can’t use a Mac. I’m a heterosexual.
Macs should be more reliable. A $2500 Mac is as reliable as a $2500 Windows box.
People just don’t buy $2500 Windows boxes
Why would you pay $2,500 for a Mac?
Because my daughter wanted one for college. If I had been smart, I would have waited until she started to take graphic design classes before I bought it. But she has a mother.....
We pay $2500 for our Macs at work to do software development.
Most new software written as web apps, anyway. Pretty soon all you’ll need is a browser and you can take your pick - windows, apple, Linux, etc ...