Skip to comments.The Army Wants a More Potent Sidearm
Posted on 07/05/2014 12:47:51 PM PDT by virgil283
"Soldiers who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan have complained that the 9mm round is not powerful enough to be effective in combat.
The 9mm doesnt score high with soldier feedback, said Easlick, explaining that the Army, and the other services, want a round that will have better terminal effects or cause more damage when it hits enemy combatants.
One of the major goals of the MHS effort is to adopt a pistol chambered for a more potent round than the current 9mm, weapons officials said. ..."
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You’ll shoot yer eye out with that thing.
No matter what caliber they choose, they’re probably still stuck with an FMJ.
With the right bullets, the 9mm is a fine round. The problem is the military will not use them. I think I have read that they have the right to use them but for some reason will not.
If you must stick to fmj bullets then a .45 is preferable. The old 1911 is fine but I think we can do better now. Maybe the new Sig double column mag. model would do.
Unfortunately that would mean admitting a mistake - something government minions very rarely do. Instead they’ll spend millions on a study, then more millions on research and development, then still more millions on a pilot project, then the whole thing will get whacked in a budget deal.
Just use a 22-250!
I carried that while I was in the service, but if I was to be separated from my APC, I would be looking hard for an M14.
John Moses Browning invented the Army’s more potent sidearm 103 years ago! It replaced the anemic Colt Single Action Army (SAA) that was chambered in .38 Colt.
IIRC, JHP round are prohibited by the Geneva Convention.
Is it any wonder why we don’t win wars anymore?
If memory serves right MARSOC already adopted 1911 pattern handguns or their sidearm. I hear Green Berets, and Delta use them as well, as well as other members of the Special Operations community. There are already several qualified experts that can train people on the 1911 platform should somebody decide to bring it back.
Such a thing was already done with the M-14, they were brought back as Designated Marksman Rifles and also used in the past in sniper rifle form as the M-21.
JHP not allowed for military use as per Geneva convention, I heard.
Al-Qaeda and ISIS probably don’t give a crap about any conventional rulings.
But DHS has purchased millions of rounds and will not hesitate to use them (or they would not have purchased them in the first place).
Another full bird or one star in acquisitions is getting ready to retire.
Picked up a Kimber .45 ACP Compact last Saturday......sweet sweet sweet is all I can say.
How about a Sig Sauer P226 in .357 SIG?
But the Beretta is a large frame handgun. Many people - and not just women - have complained it is too big to easily handle.
“Even Beretta has its downsides. One of the problems of 92 series is the grips that are rather large. 92 series ergonomics does not work well for those with medium-small hands. These shooters will have difficulties to reach the trigger, especially if the first shot was in double action.” - See more at: http://www.all4shooters.com/en/articles/technics/2013/Semiautomatic-pistol-full-size-comparison-beretta-glock-colt/#sthash.V5nOzg2C.dpuf
Actually it is the Hague Convention which bans expanding ammunition. The Geneva Convention only has to do with the treatment of prisoners.