Skip to comments.Saturnís Moon Titan Has Salty Sea
Posted on 07/05/2014 9:53:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin
According to new findings just published in this weeks edition of the journal Icarus, NASAs Cassini Mission has brought to light new evidence of an actual ocean inside Titan, Saturns biggest moon. Furthermore, the ocean in question might even be as salt-laden as Earths Dead Sea.
This is but the latest discovery resulting from an analysis of data on topography and gravity gathered during the past decade. Scientists discovered that an extremely high density was needed for the surface ocean of Titan to explain the information on the gravity. This means that Titans ocean has to be a very salty brine of water mixed with dissolved salts like potassium, sodium or sulphur. The team also learned that density of Titans outer ice shell differs from spot to spot. This indicates that the shell is currently freezing solid.
Linda Spilker, Cassini project scientist, concluded: Titan continues to prove itself an endlessly fascinating world. With our long-lived Cassini spacecraft, were unlocking new mysteries as fast as we solve old ones.
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(On the other hand, if reliable inlets of fresh water can be found, then the choice of locations where a probe should be sent just got considerably simplified....)
Life doesn’t have to be like us to be life. I’m sure life will find a way to breathe salt water.
...I’m talking abut water as briny as the Dead Sea... That’s way different than normal salt water in Earth’s Oceans....
Because we all know life can’t adapt to adverse conditions.
Who’s to say it can’t happen?
Listening to the audiobooks, they were creatures made out of liquid hydrogen, who feed off artificial or natural sunlight, from what I remember.
The Origin of the Oceans
Thanks BenLurkin. Extra to APoD.
And, I'm basing my statement on what has been seen with searches for life on the Dead Sea.
I wish people wouldn't stuff words into my mouth that I haven't said...
The problem with explaining the origin of life is, how did self-replicating molecules arise? DNA is very complex. Even the simplest life forms require some such complex molecules. But how could such complexity have arisen? There must have some intermediate forms, but we don't know what it was.
Once you get complex self-reproducing molecules, though, natural selection can do the rest in terms of making increasingly complex life forms.
Perhaps the intermediaries to get to DNA no longer exist. It would be like if we built sentient machines and then we died out. Later, the machines might wonder how they originated. The intermediate step, us, would be gone.
And the basis for this bold assertion is...?
The results from searching for life in the Dead Sea, which Titan's oceans are being compared to in this article.
Really, people, it's called the "Dead Sea" NOT because life finds it easy in there! Life can be found, but only in very particular areas where the water chemistry is different that what is found in the vast majority of it....
That stuck with me.
The Dead Sea is home to billions of organisms. It is literally teaming with life.
In Titan's sea, there may also be "very particular areas."
Take a number and divide it by two. Take that number and divide it by two. Continue dividing by two. Call me when you get to the end, lol.
What's the old indian saying? It's turtles all the way down.
We need a probe that can scoop up samples and bring them back.
In evolutionary terms, the Dead Sea is minutes old. Life that evolved to live in the Atlantic has yet to adapt to such brine. If such a high salt sea were all that existed, I don’t doubt that originating life could deal with it.
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‘The Incredible Shrinking Man’ Is Getting A Remake.
MGM announced today (February 13th, 2013), that they had purchased the rights to the classic science-fiction novel The Shrinking Man by Richard Matheson for a planned film adaptationmaking it an ostensible reboot/ remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man, the 1957 classic sci-fi film that also adapted the novel.
According to /Film, Universal had previously owned the rights to the story for decades, and until recently had planned to have Brett Ratner direct Eddie Murphy in a comedic remake in which Murphy would have played a magician who shrinks due to magic, which is pretty much the worst idea in the world ever.
Now that the rights have lapsed and MGM has snapped them up, the film studio has even managed to hire Richard Matheson himself, now 86 years old, to write the script with his son, Richard Matheson, Jr.
If Titan also has a sea made of tequila, then I volunteer to lead that mission.
regarding the subthread:
Sea Monkeys, Ferns and Frozen Frogs: Natures Very Own Resurrecting Organisms
Unlike most other seas and lakes throughout the world, the Dead Sea is not teeming with life. The reason for the lack of organisms is the high salinity of the sea, which is approximately 36%, making it one of the highest salt content lakes in the world. That is not to say that life does not exist in the Dead Sea although it is called the Dead Sea for a reason. Unfortunately, there is not a long list of Dead Sea animals to provide as there is a lack of life.
What Dead Sea animals do exist are those that seem to spring to life during a particularly rainy season. The floods from the rain wash sources of life into the sea, providing some form of life to be had. That is not to say that life disappears completely when the rainy season has dried up and gone away. In fact, scientists have recently discovered several craters along the sea bed that spew fresh water filled with bacteria. What once seemed like a barren atmosphere is now crawling with bacterial organisms.
and (freshwater springs)
New Life-Forms Found at Bottom of Dead Sea
The Age of the Dead Sea
I love that story. The old lady in the audience at the astronomy lecture says modern astronomy is bunk, and the earth is really supported on the back of an elephant standing on a turtle.
The astronomer thinks he's got her when he asks, "What's the turtle standing on?"
She says, "You can't fool me, young man. It's turtles all the way down."
I remember him fighting off the cat.
Mmmm... intergalactic taffy...
One of best sci-fi movies made. Guaranteed they'll screw up the remake and I bet they never mention God.
I always wonder though what happens when you get small enough for quantum effects to kick in. It's not just a matter of scale; it's a whole new set of rules.
I’m not trying to make your head explode but that’s just one molecule type out of infinity.
“In the beginning, God....”
He says "Word" is too weak. He tries "Mind," "Power," "Action," and finally drives Mephistopheles crazy, who has snuck into the room on the form of a poodle.
Titan has my vote for the next moon in the Solar System to investigate.