Posted on 07/06/2014 2:10:26 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
OK, here is my rant about tipping. Not the kind where folks in Frisco are standing little cars on end or the practice of pushing sleeping cows over but the kind that takes place in restaurants.
I worked in food service and as a bartender for many years while in the Air Force. When I started out the business would pay me to serve the customers. If my service was good, the customers would reward me with a gratuity. Over time the businesses noticed their servers were making a lot of money in tips so they reduced their pay to minimum wage. The difference between that and what you should have been paid was made up by tipping. In other words the burden of paying the server moved from the business to the customer. Instead of working for the business, servers were now working for the customer.
It is still that way today with some businesses adding the "gratuity" to the bill automatically. Folks it is no longer a "gratuity" if it is mandatory and the only way the server gets paid. Let's call it what it is, a service fee.
-PJ
Personally, if there is a service fee on the bill, I complain. Get it removed, then give the cash direct to the server.
I ain’t going to stiff someone who has made a meal a pleasure (or tolerable). But I’m not going to play the restaurant game where people have to wait for months for a well earned tip either. They get cash up front.
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FR: This Kentucky Restaurant’s New ‘No Tipping’ Policy is Genius
I am a county administrative judge and I do just fine upholding the constitution and the laws of my state.
Is there some bill before the house that includes tipping legislation?
I am a county administrative judge and I do just fine upholding the constitution and the laws of my state.
You misunderstood. By living wage I mean that waiters would be paid what the job is worth - let the market set that wage/value just as it does for all other jobs. My assumption would be that the pay would be competitive, especially for someone with a solid resume.
Friend’s daughter is a server at Cafe Boulud on Palm Beach. She can make $500/night on a good night in the season.
I’ve seen it from the golf perspective where clubs went to a no-tipping policy (with much higher hourly wages) in order to not have members one-upping each other. What results is overall good service in most cases, but gone is the exceptional service.
It also creates clock milkers. In the day, you hustled, made your tips, cleaned the place up, and got the hell out of there. Now everyone is on island time, which I don’t consider a good result.
When I go to a restaurant I expect to pay. The way I see it... If I’m worried about a service fee on my bill, then I should not be eating out.
Moreover, when I tip I always start at 20% and work my way down.
I bet by conservative standards you are an abject disaster. Your “living wage” slip gave you away.
No, not a good result, but a predictable one. Oh, as far as a private club goes? Very different dynamic from a restaurant.
Nobody tips in Japan. Yes, the prices are high, but the service is good. Other countries manage without the practice. I personally think tipping is extortion and I hate the practice.
I bet you are.
The Market HAS set the wage. Great waiters make great money at great restaurants, lousy waiters make the inverse.
Your experiment with ‘changing the DNA of capitalism’ will fail, is failing spectacturaly, I wish you’d do something else with your time, like waiting tables.
I personally think you don't know anything about how tipping forces the free market into the F/B business, and I also know you don't know a thing about the startling differences between the Japanese and American culture. Feel free not to eat out and save your extortion problems.
Your experiment with ‘changing the DNA of capitalism’ will fail, is failing spectacturaly, I wish you’d do something else with your time, like waiting tables.
What's horrifying is she is a judge (or claims to be). I bet she destroyes the free market daily with her ruling, and is too ignorant to realize it. I am shocked how many Freepers don't understand what you call "the DNA of capitalism" as it pertains to this. (btw, I love that phrase)
let the market set that wage/value just as it does for all other jobs.
Bingo.
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