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CNN's "The Sixties" : What a Bunch of Crap!
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Posted on 07/06/2014 9:13:11 PM PDT by PROCON

CNN's "The Sixties" episodes started out giving me feelings of nostalgia, as I grew up in that era. The Beatles coming to America and all the great 60's TV shows brought a smile to my face! But then they started getting into the Vietnam War which I really didn't pay attention to until I enlisted in 1969 and spent a year there. I guess I missed the obvious bias of Walter Cronkite etal as they declared us baby killers. One of the CNN segments quoting CBS said US Forces were killing 25,000 Vietnamese civilians a year. Bull crap! Vietnam is when the so called "Rules of Engagement" started where we had to make the fighting "fair". More bullcrap. Anyway, to make point: this CNN series just shows us how bias the mainstream media is 40+ years ago and now.


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Anyone else watching the CNN series?
1 posted on 07/06/2014 9:13:12 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON
1969 Vietnam support by age group.

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2 posted on 07/06/2014 9:17:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: PROCON
"Anyone else watching the CNN series?"

I thought that no one watched CNN unless they were at the airport or in a waiting room.

3 posted on 07/06/2014 9:17:55 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro.)
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To: PROCON

CNN? i thought they went out of business


4 posted on 07/06/2014 9:19:57 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Revisionist history documentaries make me want to barf. I was there and what they show doesn’t remind me of the time period in the least. The ones on the eighties are even worse.


5 posted on 07/06/2014 9:20:34 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: PROCON
all they were saying was give piece a chance

same bus....different faces..


6 posted on 07/06/2014 9:26:12 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ....Barack Hussein LaRaza Obama Bites)
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To: PROCON
I do not have TV but I do know the 60s.

I remember.

The 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats were celebrated in the establishment MSM as the most intelligent generation ever! They are now arguably that very establishment that praised them and they hold themselves and their ideological issue in even higher regard.

My complaints to network TV news back then always got the same reply.. "We're professionals and you're not."

7 posted on 07/06/2014 9:33:41 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: PROCON

I saw a few minutes but did not get interested in it. I was in my early 20’s back then and knew Cronkite was lying. That is when I quit being interested in network news. Why watch him when I was smarter than he? He was one of the reasons we did not win that war. People died due to him and other numbskulls.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 9:36:15 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: PROCON

I loved life in the Sixties, but I lived in a bubble.

My dad was military, and we lived out of the country on military bases in Japan and the Philippines between 1967 and 1972.

I was a strait-laced kid, for the most part. Didn’t drink or smoke.

I hated hippies, the anti-war movement, and liberals. They painted hardworking, dedicated and patriotic people like my dad and my friend’s dads with a broad brush...basically, evil and stupid.

I remember being pretty upset at the concept of Hubert Humphrey winning the presidency.

I lived on military bases, so I was insulated from what was going on back in the States. But I will tell you, there was a part of me that wasn’t excited to go back.

Race riots. LSD dropped into the lunches of unsuspecting students. Antiwar demonstrations. And so on.

But part of me desperately wanted to come back, and I do recall getting on my knees at the tarmac at Kennedy International in New York and pressing my lips to the asphalt.

No joke, I really did.

But the Sixties left us with what we have now in government: Radical Leftists. There are no more Democrats like Zell Miller or Scoop Jackson (though Scoop Jackson showed his true colors during the Annie Lee Moss fiasco, in the same way Truman showed his true colors when it became apparent there was indeed a communist infestation in the US government...)

But there is not one single Democratic politician in this country that I feel has the best interests of the United States at heart, as I did feel with some Democrats in years gone by.

Now, they are all rubber-stamp stooges, as far as I am concerned, aiding and abetting the destruction of this country. Not a single honorable one amongst them.


9 posted on 07/06/2014 9:37:23 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: MamaB
I initially thought he was simply wrong, misinformed and defeatist at best, and a Kennedy toady at worst, until I saw this. After that, everything he had done in the media took on a new light.

WALTER CRONKITE PROMOTES DEMOCRATIC FEDERAL WORLD GOVERNMENT
Received W.F.A.'s Norman Cousins Global Governance Award on 19 October 1999 

 I am greatly honored to receive this award for two reasons: first, I believe as Norman Cousins did that the first priority of humankind in this era is to establish an effective system of world law that will assure peace with justice among the peoples of the world; second, I feel sentimental about this award because half a century ago Norman offered me a job as spokesman and Washington lobbyist for the World Federalist organization, which was then in its infancy. I chose instead to continue in the world of journalism. For many years, I did my best to report on the issues of the day in as objective a manner as possible. When I had my own strong opinions, as I often did, I tried not to communicate them to my audience. Now, however, my circumstances are different. I am in a position to speak my mind. And that is what I propose to do.   Those of us who are living today can influence the future of civilization. We can influence whether our planet will drift into chaos and violence, or whether through a monumental educational and political effort we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual violators of that law are brought to justice.  

For most of this fairly long life I have been an optimist harboring a belief that as our globe shrank, as our communication miracles brought us closer together, we would begin to appreciate the commonality of our universal desire to live in peace and that we would do something to satisfy that yearning of all peoples. Today I find it harder to cling to that hope. For how many thousands of years now have we humans been what we insist on calling "civilized"? And yet, in total contradiction, we also persist in the savage belief that we must occasionally, at least, settle our arguments by killing one another.   While we spend much of our time and a great deal of our treasure in preparing for war, we see no comparable effort to establish a lasting peace. Meanwhile, emphasizing the sloth in this regard, those advocates who work for world peace by urging a system of world government are called impractical dreamers. Those "impractical dreamers" are entitled to ask their critics, "what is so practical about war?" 

 It seems to many of us that if we are to avoid the eventual catastrophic world conflict we must strengthen the United Nations as a first step toward a world government with a legislature, executive and judiciary, and police to enforce its international laws and keep the peace. To do that, of course, we Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith in the new order. But the American colonies did it once and brought forth one of the most nearly perfect unions the world has ever seen. The circumstances were vastly different, obviously. Yet just because the task appears forbiddingly hard, we should not shirk it. We cannot defer this responsibility to posterity. Democracy, civilization itself, is at stake. Within the next few years we must change the basic structure of our global community from the present anarchic system of war and ever more destructive weaponry to a new system governed by a democratic U.N. federation. 

 Let's focus on a few specifics of what the leadership of the World Federalist movement believe must be done now to advance the rule of world law. For starters, we can draw on the wisdom of the Framers of the U.S. Constitution of 1787. The differences among the American states then were as bitter as differences among nation-states in the world today. In their almost miraculous insight, the Founders of our country invented 'federalism,' a concept that is rooted in the rights of the individual. Our federal system guarantees a maximum of freedom but provides it in a framework of law and justice. Our forefathers believed that the closer the laws are to the people, the better. Cities legislate on local matters; states make decisions on matters within their borders; and the national government deals with issues that transcend the states, such as interstate commerce and foreign relations. That is federalism.   Today we must develop federal structures on a global level. We need a system of enforceable world law --a democratic federal world government-- to deal with world problems. What Alexander Hamilton wrote about the need for law among the 13 states applies today to the approximately 200 sovereignties in our global village: "To look for a continuation of harmony between a number of independent unconnected sovereignties in the same neighborhood, would be to disregard the uniform course of human events, and to set at defiance the accumulated experience of ages." Today the notion of unlimited national sovereignty means international anarchy. We must replace the anarchic law of force with a civilized force of law. 

 Ours will neither be a perfect world, nor a world without disagreement and occasional violence. But it will be a world where the vast majority of national leaders will consistently abide by the rule of world law, and those who won't will be dealt with effectively and with due process by the structures of that same world law. We will never have a city without crime, but we would never want to live in a city that had no system of law to deal with criminals. 

 Let me make three suggestions for immediate action that would move us in a direction firmly in the American tradition of law and democracy.


1. Keep our promises: We helped create the U.N. and to develop the U.N. assessment formula. Americans overwhelmingly want us to pay our U.N. dues, with no crippling limitations. We owe it to the world. In fact, we owe it as well to our national self-esteem. 


2. Ratify the Treaty to Ban Land Mines, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, the Convention to Eliminate All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Most important, we should sign and ratify the Treaty for a permanent International Criminal Court. That Court will enable the world to hold individuals accountable for crimes against humanity.


3. Consider, after 55 years, the possibility of a more representative and democratic system of decision making at the U.N. This should include both revision of the veto in the Security Council and adoption of a weighted voting system for the General Assembly. The World Federalists have endorsed Richard Hudson's Binding Triad proposal. George Soros, in "The Crisis of Global Capitalism," has given serious attention to this concept which would be based upon not only one-nation-one-vote but also on population and contributions to the U.N. budget. Resolutions adopted by majorities in each of these areas would be binding, enforceable law. Within the powers given to it in the Charter, the U.N. could then deal with matters of reliable financing, a standing U.N. peace force, development, the environment and human rights.  

Some of you may ask why the Senate is not ratifying these important treaties and why the Congress is not paying our U.N. dues. As with the American rejection of the League of Nations, our failure to live up to our obligations to the U.N. is led by a few willful senators who choose to pursue their narrow, selfish political objectives at the cost of our nation's conscience. They pander to and are supported by the Christian Coalition and the rest of the religious right wing. Their leader, Pat Robertson, has written that we should have a world government but only when the messiah arrives. Attempts for world order before that time are the work of the Devil! This small but well-organized group has intimidated both the Republican Party and the Clinton administration. It has attacked presidents since F.D.R. for supporting the U.N. Robertson explains that these presidents are the unwitting agents of Lucifer. 

The only way we who believe in the vision of a democratic world federal government can effectively overcome this reactionary movement is to organize a strong educational counteroffensive stretching from the most publicly visible people in all fields to the humblest individuals in every community. That is the vision and program of the World Federalist Association. The strength of the World Federalist program would serve an important auxiliary purpose at this particular point in our history. There would be immediate diplomatic advantages if the world knew that this country was even beginning to explore the prospect of strengthening the U.N. We would appear before the peoples of the world as the champion of peace for all by the equitable sharing of power. This in sharp contrast to the growing concern that we intend to use our current dominant military power to enforce a sort of pax Americana.   Our country today is at a stage in our foreign policy similar to that crucial point in our nation's early history when our Constitution was produced in Philadelphia. Let us hear the peal of a new international liberty bell that calls us all to the creation of a system of enforceable world law in which the universal desire for peace can place its hope and prayers. As Carl Van Doren has written, "History is now choosing the founders of the World Federation. Any person who can be among that number and fails to do so has lost the noblest opportunity of a lifetime."

10 posted on 07/06/2014 9:41:22 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: PROCON
Yes! This was an important piece of Kennedy hagiography. St. John of Hyannis, Virgin and Martyr's life is so inspiring that even Left-Wing Atheists can now have rosary beads to aid them in their daily devotions, which include keeping the hosshiite alive and kissing virtual Kennedy backsides.

Can't we all just forget that it was this freckled, drug-addled invalid whorehound who blundered us into Viet Nam? Who "triumphed" over Kruschev, by taking down our missiles in Turkey in exchange for recognizing Cuba as a fully armed Soviet satellite state. Who, now revered as a Civil Rights Hero, fought Negro equality tooth and nail, voting for years alongside the segregationist Southern Democrats ... who was a fervent backer of Senator Joe McCarthy? Who shared a girlfriend with Momo Giancana and used Momo's Crew to try and take out Fidel Castro? Who had an affair with Marilyn Monroe, shared her with his Brother Bobby, leading to her suspicious "suicide?"

Ah yes, those great '60s. When American common sense and pragmatism was finally over-ruled by incandescent Kennedy show-biz PR bullshiite.

Two things to remember: JFK is still dead. Fidel Castro is still alive.

11 posted on 07/06/2014 9:42:51 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: PROCON
Anything about the Weather Underground blowing things up?


12 posted on 07/06/2014 9:43:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: PROCON
No me. Tom Hanks, a communist, is involved with the series. Anything he touches is anti-American, anti-gun, pro-mooselimb, pro-sodomy, pro-abortion propaganda of the vilest sort. The sickening Forest Gump film, another one of his "artistic efforts", was an anti-Southern, anti-Christian, anti-military non-stop hatefest.

That said, on the Commie News Network (CNN), I did watch a recent Parts Unknown about Mississippi. Anthony Bourdain, another leftist like the insufferable Hanks, actually did present the Magnolia State in a somewhat favorable light, even grudgingly admitting that the real racists are northerners.

13 posted on 07/06/2014 9:44:52 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: PROCON

All we had to do was win the war in 1966 by invading and occupying the north and hanging Ho.
Johnson/Nixon were no smarter than Truman was in Korea.
But Ho Chi Minh was a whole lot smarter than Kim Il-Sung.


14 posted on 07/06/2014 9:45:34 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: PROCON

I saw it in the channel listings and knew it would be full of crap. Never bothered to watch.


15 posted on 07/06/2014 9:47:02 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: PROCON

I don’t watch network or cable TV anymore.

I feel much better....So can you.

I use internet streaming only..(Netflix, hulu, etc..)

For news I use streaming radio where I can pick my sources.

No CNN....No Fox....No flaming alphabet BS...


16 posted on 07/06/2014 9:47:27 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: PROCON

I doubt many FReepers ever watch CNN


17 posted on 07/06/2014 9:50:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Kim Il-Sung was a Soviet stooge, literally


18 posted on 07/06/2014 9:53:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: MamaB
RE: Cronkite, et al and the War.

"General Thi believes that the [American] media played a major role in the final downfall of South Vietnam. He quotes North Vietnam General Vo Nguyen Giap as stating in a French TV broadcast that Giap’s 'most important guerrilla during the Vietnam War was the American press.'"

Here

19 posted on 07/06/2014 9:54:32 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: PROCON

Vietnam started all this leftist insanity, and we are infected by the idiots and traitors of that era, the Hagels and Kerrys


20 posted on 07/06/2014 9:58:08 PM PDT by Williams
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