Skip to comments.Ever Just Want to Give Up and Get On The Dole? ~ Vanity
Posted on 07/09/2014 11:03:35 AM PDT by GraceG
Ever wake up somedays and wonder why you work and put in the effort for others to leech off your hard work, especially those who are not even citizens.
Ever just think about just throwing your arms up in the air and saying to hell with it and quitting your job or shutting down your business and becomming a deadbeat like the other people that some of your hard earned tax money goes to.
Ever just wonder if we will never wake up again as country if you keep working hard to prop stuff up. Realizing that the only way for waking up the people would be for everything to just collapse and instead of trying to stop the collapse the best thing would be to rip the band aid off.
Ever just want to give up, walk away, move away, leave, tune out, and drop out....
Somedays, I admit, I do... and more often with each passing day....
I like to fish. I know a lot of guys on the dole who spend a lot of time fishing. It would be nice, but I have a conscience. Sometimes I wonder why, though. :(
I feel your pain.
If you do that you become the parasite that most (if not all) of us despise.Stopping work because you’ve reached a reasonable retirement age (or have won the lottery) or because of a *genuine* health issue is absolutely fine.Otherwise....no respect from *me*.
[ If you do that you become the parasite that most (if not all) of us despise.Stopping work because youve reached a reasonable retirement age (or have won the lottery) or because of a *genuine* health issue is absolutely fine.Otherwise....no respect from *me*. ]
Just because I entertain such thoughts doesn’t ever mean I will act upon them, but I do war game out these things.
It’s important to maintain life skills.
Because some day, those on the dole are going to find the dole has run dry and many will suffer terribly.
40% fake money is not viable on an ongoing basis. I wish I knew when the markets would puke it up so we could all get rich but I’m not that astute.
In any event, God bless.
I nearly reached the tipping point when a guy I bought a couple drinks for opened his wallet to pay for his tab and his EBT card fell out. I thought to myself, “Great. I’m paying him to have drinks with me.”
No, because I was raised better and have pride
I know what you mean. I got a bonus at work this morning. They give you the gross amount and then I get the check. It’s then when I get upset about the the taxes taken from the bonus and the crap that it’s being spent on.
I think think of my parents and grandparents and know that I’d be letting them down, as well as my spouse and daughter, if I wasn’t working hard.
My biggest concern is that the lower middle class is getting swallowed and the middle class is next. I feel like many of us are working awfully hard without a lot to show for it these days.
I hear you, but no.
My comment sounded mean and I didn’t mean for it to - I understand your post - somedays it does seem like we are idiots for working and paying taxes.
At times same here but I get back on the highway to come to the office. Besides I am a white male who doesn’t vote or think the right way so I wouldn’t get enough to even bother with.
[ Its important to maintain life skills.
Because some day, those on the dole are going to find the dole has run dry and many will suffer terribly.
40% fake money is not viable on an ongoing basis. I wish I knew when the markets would puke it up so we could all get rich but Im not that astute.
In any event, God bless. ]
If I were to “Life on the Dole” I would use my SNAP card to stock up on canned foods and water and use the government resources to build up stockpiles and my time off to excersise and train myself.
Of course buying actual food with my SNAP card would probably get me red flagged in the SNAP system no doubt...
After college, I had a stretch of unemployment.... I didn’t like it AT ALL.
I was a basket case and couldn’t begin work soon enough.
I never wanted to go on the dole but I’ll regret to my dying day not starting a synthetic solar windmill company.
Negative. Quit the job and go live in the woods, yes. Government handout? Nope.
I do not feel that way. Yet.
But only because the State has not yet squeezed me dry. When the Obama-fascists take my retirement account, when they take my hopes and dreams of providing for me and my family, when they take whatever freedoms I have left, especially my freedom to speak freely and worship; then I’ll feel that way. And more.
Then I’ll go renegade. Then I’ll join the masses in fighting against the enemies of the state, which is - of course - the State itself.
[ I do not feel that way. Yet.
But only because the State has not yet squeezed me dry. When the Obama-fascists take my retirement account, when they take my hopes and dreams of providing for me and my family, when they take whatever freedoms I have left, especially my freedom to speak freely and worship; then Ill feel that way. And more. ]
Is there ever a time in which accelerating the collapse is seen as a viable option for a reset?
Never said you did....but I sincerely apologize if my poorly worded response gave you the wrong impression.
There may be days when my job drives me crazy, but it still pays a lot better than unemployment or welfare so no, I’m not tempted.
[ I nearly reached the tipping point when a guy I bought a couple drinks for opened his wallet to pay for his tab and his EBT card fell out. I thought to myself, Great. Im paying him to have drinks with me. ]
I have pre-emtively ended friendships over such things...
This sort of thing has made me physically sick before....
I’ve been poor. I didn’t like it. So now I work.
Letting go of the outdated American Dream of work, reproduce, consume, retire, die is hard. We score our life based on that paradigm. I guess we should use soccer as a lesson and that lesson is that a 0-0 score is ok as long as we had fun.
That's a good question. And many people think that as soon as we hit rock bottom - the better. There is no doubt that America is crashing and burning. We are like passengers in an airliner that is in free-fall; heading for the ground at 550 mph. But there's not a damn thing we can do till we hit the ground.
Then our survivors can pick up the pieces and try and restore America.
Well, according to the libs, I am on the dole because I’m collecting disability. Never mind that I paid into the system for 35 years.
And I don’t qualify for an Obamaphone.
Anyone with any self-respect, shame, and dignity, that I know works. I understand, and I joke about it with some of my friends sometimes, but we all know that we must do the right thing and take care of our families, and not let the government do it. To do so would make us less than men, it would make us slaves.
Not to be on the dole, but to quit supporting this fascist country. So many people don’t realize how far down the slippery slope we have already gone.
My husband is going to quit work next year (at 49). When I did our 2013 taxes, he paid over $35,000! Fed, state, and SS and medicare (which I consider a tax, since it is going bankrupt and won’t be there for us - more on that in a sec)
Why should he work so hard to support all the illegals? And then be discriminated against because he is a white male?
We have been fortunate enough to have saved some money. House and cars will be paid for. We can live on the interest (1%, whoopee, hoping rates go up some day!) on our savings plus $20K a year. Subject personal exemptions and the standard deduction from that 20K AGI, and you have a near zero taxable income.
My challenge ot everyone is to save as much money as you can. And see if the material things in life are really making you happy. Or would a simpler lifestyle, where you have set yourself up to be self-sufficient and thumb your nose at the fascist leaders we have, would make you more fulfilled?
Back to Socialist Security - each situation is different, but when I did the calculations on my husband’s earnings, if he works another 17 years he will pay in nearly $175K. If he lives to 83 (average men’s lifespan), he will get back another $50k for paying in that $175K. He will NEVER get that money back because he will never live long enough. SS is extremely socialized. Low income people get all their money back and some of ours and yours. It’s not worth it to work for SS if you have a decent income (now, a 401K plan with employer matching is another story).
Any interested, you can start a plan to be self-sufficient right now. I started just 5 years ago and figured another 10 years would be sufficient. Now with the invasion happening and us hating CA more each day, we have upped our timeframe and will be escaping in 8 months!
[ That’s a good question. And many people think that as soon as we hit rock bottom - the better. There is no doubt that America is crashing and burning. We are like passengers in an airliner that is in free-fall; heading for the ground at 550 mph. But there’s not a damn thing we can do till we hit the ground.
Then our survivors can pick up the pieces and try and restore America. ]
I Vassilate between “We can turn this thing around before we crash” and “We can only turn this thing around AFTER the crash”.....
Some days it is the former some the latter, but inthe last year I feel more like “after the crash” recovery is more viable... Maybe that is the pessimist in me...
One scenario I'm mulling is "retiring" in two years when I hit 62: be a double-dipper, and work part time (up to the SS limit).
I'm just tired of the same old BS I've put up with for 40 years. The flexibility/ability to "take this job and shove it" can't be underestimated.
I won't be idle, my youngest son will be a HS freshman, and my grandson will be entering first grade. There will be plenty of activities to keep me busy.
The very least I can do is spend some of my time helping out the local Tea Party.
Precisely! Go Galt!
“When the Obama-fascists take my retirement account, when they take my hopes and dreams of providing for me and my family, when they take whatever freedoms I have left, especially my freedom to speak freely and worship; then Ill feel that way. And more.”
It will be too late by then. Just as with Hitler, people didn’t realize he had his thumb on their throats until they could do nothing about it.
I would think about it, except I know that *I* would not rate welfare. I’m the wrong color, and I don’t have a bunch of anchor babies or kids from different baby daddies. I’d be turned down if I applied for any kind of aid, as others similar to me have tried and been turned down. The dole is only for certain, precious, favored people. People like me are expected to go to work and pay for the others. Which is fine, since I couldn’t live with myself, anyway, if I took money others had earned. But I can’t even consider or dream about it because it’s just not a possibility.
“Is there ever a time in which accelerating the collapse is seen as a viable option for a reset?”
But I can’t lower myself enough to TAKE, but I can quit CONTRIBUTING. That is help enough.
"Governments derive their just powers from the CONSENT of the governed..." (emphasis added).
And yet, we consent to a corrupt financial system each time we hand over or accept a FRN.
We consent to and support said fascism every time we file taxes.
We consent to the destruction of our 2A rights every time we walk into a federally licensed gun dealer and submit to a background check.
WE are the problem, not the government.
Its like the “vote for Romney to get rid of Obama” argument.
What’s the point, really? They both are Statists hell-bent on Socialism.
Obama’s plan just gets us there sooner.
“The flexibility/ability to “take this job and shove it” can’t be underestimated.”
Good for you. Enjoy yourself and your family.
What is FRN?
Federal Reserve Note
I do feel like a fool being a slave to the system, but better that than to feel like a govt goober. I was let go several months ago and now have a part-time job. But it seems like people my age (mid-50’s) are not wanted as much.
Today I met a man who wanted an apartment. He was hard of hearing, on disability after work for a union. Looked like construction. He was in good physical condition, tanned wearing gold chain, well dressed and demanding. He was going to screw his current landlord out of a months rent to move tomorrow.
almost every day..
when someone down the block is living better than me, driving near new cars while I drive a 200,000+ mile car to jobs I begs and fight for (I am a contractor) don’t get me started on their new boat and other “toys” they somehow find the money to buy while happily telling you no one in the house works and are on disability.....
There are many times I just wana say f*&k it and join them. My boat ain’t new, but I can fish from it and that’s a lot more fun than working.
I blame my grandfather.. He’s the one that installed my work ethic... I just can’t seem to over ride it and sit on my ass all day.
America is different. You know what that one major difference is that gives tens of millions of Americans that edge over Hitlerbama?
The Second Amendment. When I say the masses will go renegade, I mean it. There are not enough Brown Shirts and not enough cattle cars in this country to sustain the Third Reich that B. Hussein has in mind for us. We have them outgunned.
I am still trying to win that lottery.
If FR ever skips a quarterly fundraiser, it might have been me but I won’t tell.
Oh heck yeah! And carry through with it once in a while.
and becomming a deadbeat like the other people that some of your hard earned tax money goes to.
No. Never. Not once.
Become a hermit, fish/hunt/plant&harvest for food, yeah, I think about that. But the wife & kids keep that from being a real choice.
Seriously? Did you opinion of him drop like a rock at that point?
The beast is pushing We the People to choose up sides, either to be freemen or bondmen. While none of us want to be abused and it is natural to avoid being on the receiving end of abuse, in the heavenly court it will be better to be the abused rather than the abuser, the innocent victim rather than the perp.
Who are we, children of Sarah or children of Hagar?
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Chofetz Chaim - "When Moshiach Comes No One Will Be Sitting On The Fence"
Rav Elya Weintraub says that the Chofetz Chaim explains as follows. "All innocent" and "all guilty" does not mean that everyone is on the same side of the fence. It just means that everyone sits squarely on one side of the fence. In order for the Moshiach to come the world must be completely polarized. Everyone must choose where they belong, with Hashem or Chas V'Shalom the opposite.
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
My kids are working their way through college so that they will not graduate in debt. I feel like a chump making them do that. By the time they graduate, Obama and the Democrats will have forgiven all of the student debt (meaning that we will be paying for it).
All those poor colleges and universities need their exponentially increasing tuition to pay for their Obamacare.
We have qualified for the Earned Income Tax Credit in recent years, a gimmedat for the working poor. It was our only source of gummint aid. It amounted to about $3000 per year on the average, and we relied on it to purchase school materials.
My conscience was bugging me. We opted not to take it from now on. I don’t want to be a part of the stealing machine.
Freedom. God will take care of us. I am going to build some custom caskets in the shop and see if folks are interested, as an added source for retirement.
Only spoke to him once after that, and only because I had to . . . .
I sometimes think of getting a driver’s license for an illegal with a fake identity so I can keep getting my paycheck while sponging off the gov.