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Washington Pot Stores Open, But Some Activists Aren't Celebrating
USNews ^ | 0708/2014 | Steven Nelson

Posted on 07/09/2014 12:54:00 PM PDT by Rusty0604

Veteran marijuana activist Douglas Hiatt, right, says Washington's Initiative 502 establishes a "Soviet style" market for marijuana and won't work.

“You’re going to have people selling grams of pot for $25? What, are you kidding me?” Hiatt says. “You can get the best pot you have ever smoked for 10 bucks a gram at a [medical marijuana] dispensary or from someone else who's going to give you a better deal than the state.”

There’s no way they are going to eliminate the black market with something that’s totally unresponsive to a market at all,” Hiatt says. "You're going to see very quickly the problems when you try to do things Soviet style. When you're using universally rejected planning economy theory, you're going to reap disaster."

But his advice to lawmakers: "You want to take the people doing whatever the illegal activity was and you make them legal. You don't create this giant freaking bureaucracy, you don't start trying to do economic planning that would make Lenin proud, you let the free market work."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cannabis; dopersrights; freemarket; legalpot; marijuana; pot; temperancemovement; whytheycallitdope; wod
LOL I guess the cartels won't be going out of business in Washington.

If only this guy could take his newfound appreciation of capitalism and 1), apply the concept to all activities and 2)share his knowledge with all the lefties.

1 posted on 07/09/2014 12:54:00 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

The plan was always to buy a little bit from the legal shop and then keep the receipt to cover for the cheaper stuff they get from their old dealers. Washington could have one legal shop. They’re only worried about the sales receipt.


2 posted on 07/09/2014 12:57:06 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Rusty0604

When it comes to getting high,
leftists suddenly understand
market forces.

Don’t harsh on mellow, man!


3 posted on 07/09/2014 1:01:38 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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To: Rusty0604

It’s the same in Colorado. But the cartels are getting business mainly from the state! Thousands of small grows have sprung up in basements and sheds and they produce much better product than the mass growers (some of which are cartel owned) who produce for the stores.

The small growers have lower prices too (no tax). People look upon the retail stores like a 7-11, just grab a little something when you get caught short.

Govt never changes, and never solves problems. It just increases in size and power. People work around it as best they can.


4 posted on 07/09/2014 1:02:54 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: blueunicorn6

When NY imposed huge taxes on tobacco, the black market came in. If cigarettes didn’t have the tax stamp on them people could get into trouble. I guess that wouldn’t work with MJ since it won’t be sold in packs.


5 posted on 07/09/2014 1:03:12 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

So much for the talk of “tax the hell out of it”.

Send the revenuers in to get their share like they do when people make moonshine...


6 posted on 07/09/2014 1:05:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: SaxxonWoods

I guess that frees up the Mexican cartels to ship over more heroin. Now they don’t even have to worry much about the border patrol catching them as they are too busy babysitting.


7 posted on 07/09/2014 1:05:53 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

I suspect his newfound insight is situational.


8 posted on 07/09/2014 1:06:47 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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To: Rusty0604; GeronL
I guess that frees up the Mexican cartels to ship over more heroin. Now they don’t even have to worry much about the border patrol catching them as they are too busy babysitting.

Kids today are so retro, the love their Mexican cokes.


9 posted on 07/09/2014 1:08:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: gogeo

I suspect you are correct.


10 posted on 07/09/2014 1:14:55 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: a fool in paradise
Kids today are so retro, the love their Mexican cokes.
We buy the Mexican bottled coca cola at our local Korean country store and they are way better than the corn syrup yankee ones. They taste like a coke should.
11 posted on 07/09/2014 1:15:38 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Fine by me. The point as a smoker is that I won’t go to jail. The rest of it I don’t care about.


12 posted on 07/09/2014 1:41:38 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Rusty0604

LOL. I was gonna say there may be a good side to this. All these libturd potheads will learn some basic Econ.


13 posted on 07/09/2014 1:52:36 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Tommy Chong owns a grow shop in Pueblo, Colorado.


14 posted on 07/09/2014 2:13:43 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Send the revenuers in to get their share like they do when people make moonshine...”

Many states allow people to distill a limited quantity of spirits without paying any taxes for personal consumption. Are you opposed to that freedom?


15 posted on 07/11/2014 12:05:09 AM PDT by FBD
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To: dainbramaged
We buy the Mexican bottled coca cola

Does it have the worm in the bottom of the bottle?

16 posted on 07/11/2014 12:20:48 AM PDT by Octar
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To: Rusty0604

One of the points pot addicts made for legalization was that the government could regulate and tax it. Now they are bitching about it.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 12:26:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Sounded good when they were stoned.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 1:06:48 AM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: dainbramaged

“We buy the Mexican bottled coca cola at our local Korean country store”

In the midwest these Cokes are labelled “kosher”. The have sugar instead of corn syrup- and yes they are much tastier than there mainstream cousins


19 posted on 07/11/2014 1:30:32 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Moonman62
One of the points pot addicts made for legalization

Not all legalization supporters are even pot users, much less pot addicts. (I'll take this opportunity to mention that pot is less addictive than alcohol.)

was that the government could regulate and tax it. Now they are bitching about it.

Even if it was the same people in both cases (for which there is no evidence on the table) they may simply have overlooked the possibility that Washington would OVERtax and OVERregulate.

20 posted on 07/11/2014 6:12:56 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

That is correct. They can only tax it to the point that is makes economic sense to purchase it legally, otherwise people will turn to the black market.


21 posted on 07/11/2014 7:20:30 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
As is happening with cigarettes in NYC.
22 posted on 07/11/2014 10:40:20 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Interesting approach.
The free market finds a way!


23 posted on 07/11/2014 10:43:57 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Rusty0604

The same thing happened in Washington a couple of years ago when they privatized the state liquor stores. The state imposed heavy taxes, and liquor wound up being even more expensive than it was before.


24 posted on 07/11/2014 10:45:40 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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