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11,000 years old elk bones shrouded in mystery
Science Nordic ^ | July 1, 2014 | Anne Marie Lykkegaard

Posted on 07/10/2014 10:03:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Someone put elk bones in a bog several thousand years ago -- but archaeologists have no clue who it was... when the bones of several elks were excavated from Lundby bog in south Zealand in 1999, the archaeologists dated some of the animal remains back to sometime between 9,400 and 9,300 BC.

Recently, however, the archaeologists did a new carbon 14 dating on some of the bones which revealed that they dated back to between 9,873 and 9,676 BC.

These elk bones were clearly not buried in the bog over a short period, as originally thought, but were placed there over several centuries – and this surprised the archaeologists...

An important clue to who buried the elks comes from an axe made from an elk antler found in the bog. According to the archaeologists, this kind of tool is only known from the Maglemosean culture who lived between 9,000 and 6,400 BC. Only problem is there’s never been discovered a settlement which dates back to the time the elk bones were placed in the bog.

“There are plenty of settlements in the vicinity of the bog from the Mesolithic period around 12,800 and 3,900 BC but none of these settlements are as old as the oldest elk bones,” says Pedersen. “We’ve examined the bog many times and we’ve not been able to localise any settlements -- but we assume they are there -- somewhere.”

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenordic.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs
New carbon datings have left archeologists puzzled over who placed elk bones in a bog 11,000 years ago. (Photo: Geert Brovad)

New carbon datings have left archeologists puzzled over who placed elk bones in a bog 11,000 years ago. (Photo: Geert Brovad)

1 posted on 07/10/2014 10:03:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/10/2014 10:04:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Now there you go again Dr. Smith. How were those ages determined? Please be specific. Thank you.


3 posted on 07/10/2014 10:05:41 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: SunkenCiv

elk bones.

is that a new dog chew by purina ?


4 posted on 07/10/2014 10:08:05 PM PDT by kingattax (a real American would rather die on his feet than live on his knees.)
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To: SunkenCiv
“...the identity of the people who put the bones in the bog is something of a mystery.”
5 posted on 07/10/2014 10:13:57 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: kingattax

We never hear finds described as poo sticks, they’re always Antlers or Shaman magic wands.


6 posted on 07/10/2014 10:17:30 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Fungi

As noted in the article and the excerpt, they were dated by the radiocarbon method.


7 posted on 07/10/2014 10:36:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

perhaps poaching elk from the manor lord was best dealt with by hiding the bones in the bog ?


8 posted on 07/10/2014 10:37:20 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: SunkenCiv
Please elaborate on the radiocarbon method without citing wikipedia. Thank you.
9 posted on 07/10/2014 10:38:46 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi; SunkenCiv

10 posted on 07/10/2014 10:54:16 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: Fungi

Just read wikipedia about carbon dating, it is a technique that is old as dirt. Interesting article, hope they solve this little mystery. Alot we still need to find out about early people that lived tens of thousands of years before us.


11 posted on 07/10/2014 11:08:41 PM PDT by BurningOak (Live Free or Die)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have a theory.

—Anne Elk


12 posted on 07/10/2014 11:11:16 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: kingattax

Thinkum you might make a good elk chew!


13 posted on 07/10/2014 11:23:50 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Would know those bones anywhere. That is Great (X 200 generations or so) Uncle Thunderhooves, Grand Exalted Ruler of Lundby Bog, Zealand. So THAT’S What happened to him!


14 posted on 07/10/2014 11:28:39 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: blueplum

Not many “manor houses” 12000 years ago in New Zealand.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 12:14:30 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Fungi
Please elaborate on the radiocarbon method without citing wikipedia. Thank you

A short summary is here http://www.radiocarbon.com/about-carbon-dating.htm

If you want to learn more my suggestion is that you watch Rick Normans lectures; the first is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkRPvqbEdjE

16 posted on 07/11/2014 12:57:06 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: SunkenCiv

‘They have no reasons why the elk bones were there’.

A new hypothesis: They were offerings of thanks from the previous hunt, and for as much or more, as they had hunted that season, for the next season.

Bogs have become a place where they have found articles, tools, bones, and a few bodies, and all show signs of sacrifce. Why not elk bones?


17 posted on 07/11/2014 3:27:40 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

That is the first thing that came to my mind. Another reason might be that the animals were diseased and the carcasses were put far away from people and other animals..


18 posted on 07/11/2014 3:51:36 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: SunkenCiv

Bog = stone age trash can.

Solved.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 3:51:52 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Little Pig
It's not NEW Zealand it is OLD--or just plain--Zealand, a land that New Zealand was named after.

Zealand is the big Danish island Copenhagen is on.

20 posted on 07/11/2014 3:56:32 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: SunkenCiv

An Elk in Europe is a moose in North America. So I am assuming they’re actually moose bones, not wapiti bones?

The North America wapiti we call an elk is called a red stag in Europe (Hartz in German).

I once belonged to the US military’s Kaiserslautern Rod and Gun Club in Germany, and to get a German hunting license you had to just about be a biologist on European game animals to pass the licensing test....


21 posted on 07/11/2014 4:09:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Hirsch in German... Not hartz.

Old man syndrome.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 4:19:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

I stand corrected; so it is. I saw Zealand, and my brain automatically inserted “New”.


23 posted on 07/11/2014 6:59:56 AM PDT by Little Pig
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