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LeBron James decides to return to the Cleveland Cavaliers
Los Angeles Times ^ | 07/11/2014 | MIKE BRESNAHAN

Posted on 07/11/2014 1:43:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

LeBron James is removing his talents from Miami.

Four years after stunning the NBA world with “The Decision,” the Miami Heat forward announced an even larger revelation on SI.com Friday, perhaps destined to be called “The Redemption.”

James, 29, will return to the Cleveland Cavaliers, close to his hometown of Akron and far from the sunny beaches where he led the Heat to four NBA Finals appearances, two ending in championships.

"I’m not promising a championship," James says in the first-person essay. "I know how hard that is to deliver. We’re not ready right now. No way. Of course, I want to win next year, but I’m realistic. It will be a long process, much longer than it was in 2010. My patience will get tested. I know that. I’m going into a situation with a young team and a new coach. I will be the old head. But I get a thrill out of bringing a group together and helping them reach a place they didn’t know they could go. I see myself as a mentor now and I’m excited to lead some of these talented young guys. I think I can help Kyrie Irving become one of the best point guards in our league. I think I can help elevate Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters. And I can’t wait to reunite with Anderson Varejao, one of my favorite teammates."

His agent met with several teams last week, including the Lakers, but Cleveland emerged the winner despite James’ sit-down Wednesday with Miami president Pat Riley.

The Cavaliers made a big push this month to bring him back, swallowing some pride and dealing part of their future.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Sports; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 4ththread; basketball; cavaliers; lebronjames; nba
For basketball fans only. You don't have to post if you don't care.
1 posted on 07/11/2014 1:43:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a big hit taxwise moving back to Ohio.
5.4% vs zero in Florida.
He must really want to do it.


2 posted on 07/11/2014 1:47:49 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seek, come on this Free Republic.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 1:48:29 PM PDT by Dacula
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To: nascarnation

If you checked underneath his sofa cushions, you could probably find 5.4% of his income, and he wouldn’t care.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 1:52:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind
so he's returning to Cleveland. Yawwwwwwn. What does he have on his right arm that he wants no one to see?
5 posted on 07/11/2014 1:55:08 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 1rudeboy

You’re probably correct.

But I also forgot the local income tax which is another 2%.
The liberals are claiming that this proves that taxes don’t count in choosing where to live.

http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/07/11/3459420/lebron-taxes/

And as the old Hunkie’s in Cleveland used to say “Dot’s boolsheet”


6 posted on 07/11/2014 1:57:04 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation
It’s a big hit taxwise moving back to Ohio.

Professional athletes' taxes are extremely complicated because they pay where they earn.

In other words, for every "away" game a player plays, they owe taxes to that municipality & state for that game.

So, it's not just a simple state-vs-state comparison.

And, even if it was, I don't think LeBron is too worried about it.

7 posted on 07/11/2014 1:58:20 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: gdani

True, but half the games are in Cuyahoga County. I agree the whole thing is kind of bogus but when I saw that article I linked up the thread, I thought this is crap.


8 posted on 07/11/2014 2:00:58 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SeekAndFind
huge for the nba. I will watch with interest
9 posted on 07/11/2014 2:02:11 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: nascarnation
His local income tax of 2% gets split, I think between Cleveland and Independence where the training facility is. Besides that, does he live in a community that has its own income tax with only a partial offset?

So greater Cleveland gets 2% of his salary and there's an 8% OH sales tax in Cuyahoga County, with part of that percentage going to the county and part to the state. Add to that people who eat in restaurants when going to games, it's 8% sales tax in addition to the other positive impacts on the city. Add to that, it's next door to Dan Gilbert's casino.

I'd think LeBron coming back is a game changer for Cleveland.

10 posted on 07/11/2014 2:04:10 PM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

Who cares?


11 posted on 07/11/2014 2:05:00 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Dacula

Wow. After all these years I now know why I kept my TV.
I’d have a beer and popcorn while I sit at home and watch the tele but I spent all my money on PPV. /s or what my neighbor is doing?

Keeping Up with Appearances and Monty Python were funny in the past and reality today.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 2:05:00 PM PDT by glyptol
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To: SeekAndFind

So the Spurs not only won their 5th title, they are also responsible for the destruction of the Miami franchise.

Revenge is sweet and best eaten cold. Miami dalenda est.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 2:09:41 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill
So the Spurs not only won their 5th title, they are also responsible for the destruction of the Miami franchise.

If that Finals series was close, I doubt LeBron would have jumped. But that whole series wasn't even competitive.

No doubt Lebron came to the same conclusion & didn't see it getting better in Miami in the immediate future.

14 posted on 07/11/2014 2:13:09 PM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: wildbill

And get a load of this — The 2014 Spurs championship team is returning - INTACT. No one in the team is leaving. We get the same team for 2015 !!


15 posted on 07/11/2014 2:14:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: gdani

And get a load of this — The 2014 Spurs championship team is returning - INTACT. No one in the team is leaving. We get the same team for 2015 !!


16 posted on 07/11/2014 2:14:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That is the difference between a real team and one built around one player.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 2:15:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

First game of the Summer League is tonight. Can’t wait to see the new rookie who’s supposed to be the best passer in the recent draft.

A few tweaks here and there by the braintrust in the FO and Pop and we should be good to go.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 2:23:42 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

RE: Can’t wait to see the new rookie who’s supposed to be the best passer in the recent draft.

What’s the kids name?


19 posted on 07/11/2014 2:24:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.nba.com/draft/


20 posted on 07/11/2014 2:27:26 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: VaRepublican

Is he still going to boycott Clippers games?


21 posted on 07/11/2014 2:28:26 PM PDT by bray (Buy my book: http://braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now I can hate Cleveland.


22 posted on 07/11/2014 2:34:57 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: mulligan

Obviously, a lot of people. What kind of question is that? That’s like me posting snide comments on other sports threads when I don’t like the sport. And I guarantee you I probably won’t like the sport you like.


23 posted on 07/11/2014 2:36:55 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: wildbill

Ah please, Let go off your face from Tim Duncan’s ass. Miami destruction? Have season tickets for both LA Kings, Lakers, Clippers and Heat in many seasons. No matter how many times a franchise supposedly “self destructs”, someone like Pat Riley shows up with championship rings.


24 posted on 07/11/2014 2:37:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: gdani

With his knee problems and age, Wade is definitely diminished. The Big Three simply is not as big as they were, and none of their young players approach what the Big Three could do. Miami’s future looks bleak.


25 posted on 07/11/2014 2:39:02 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, we added Shaun Livingston....


26 posted on 07/11/2014 2:40:33 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: nascarnation

Property is a whole lot cheaper in Ohio compared to Miami-Dade....and not as Third World.

Most of Miami is a Third World crudhole. Do not understand the fascination folks have w Miami


27 posted on 07/11/2014 2:41:57 PM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour rather work for drug cartels than Americans)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, and their Big Three (Duncan, Parker, Ginobili) is a year older. Maybe next year, but not beyond that. I will say they will still have a good core of players especially with Leonard. But if the Big Three AND!!! Pop leave (Popovich said he’d go with Duncan), things will be down for SA. But not as bad as Miami. BTW, I cheered SA’s win over the Heat for the title.


28 posted on 07/11/2014 2:43:09 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: GeronL

Well, Wade and Bosh are not exactly Swiss cheese. But James’s departure means Miami is just a contender in the weak east. They only won 54 games last year with James. Without him...maybe only .500 next year. And that’s with a healthy Wade and Bosh. And Bosh might be going to Houston.


29 posted on 07/11/2014 2:47:38 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: GSWarrior

You better hope Bogut is healthy for the playoffs next year. His absence cost you guys a shot at the Spurs for the WCFs.


30 posted on 07/11/2014 2:49:39 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

We are very close to being an elite team.


31 posted on 07/11/2014 3:02:50 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: grania

It will be LeBron’s 12th year in the league. While only 29 years old, running up and down a basketball court for 82 games a year takes its toll.

A basketball great that LeBron compared himself to this past season, Bill Russell, had a 13 year career. If one reads anything about Russell’s career it is that at the end of his career he was in constant pain. The rigors of the game wore his knees out and ultimately led to him retiring when he did.

LeBron has been a great player and will be remembered as one of the greats of all time. From this point on he will be on a plateau that will eventually lead to the winding down of his career. Can he lead Cleveland to a title? Probably not. That is why they play the games.

While fans of the Cavaliers may be ecstatic over this news about his return, it should be met with a degree of restraint as it is likely LeBron will not be able to deliver what the fans really want. Bittersweet will probably be the flavor of the day in Cleveland for some time to come...


32 posted on 07/11/2014 3:07:08 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn
bittersweet will probably be the flavor of the day in Cleveland for some time to come

It's the way of Cleveland. On the local news, that talk isn't about winning the championship. It's about LeBron coming home. His letter seemed to convey a maturity that was appreciated.

I love living near Cleveland, I really do. But even on beautiful days like we've been having all summer, people refuse to believe that the weather is better here than most places. <^..^>

33 posted on 07/11/2014 3:19:18 PM PDT by grania
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To: GSWarrior

You are in the top five in the league. A lot of your success in the near future will depend on Bogut staying healthy and the development of your younger players, especially Barnes. And if you pick up Love, without losing too many valuable assets, you’re in the top three.


34 posted on 07/11/2014 3:22:01 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kyle Anderson. He said before the draft that he really wanted to play for San Antonio—but he was expected to go higher in the draft. You never know about rookies and how they adapt to the higher level of play, but He may fit right in to the team oriented play of the Spurs as a point forward.

We’ll see. Hard to get a good player with the last pick in the draft, but Spurs have always been pretty good at finding talent in the late picks.


35 posted on 07/11/2014 3:39:27 PM PDT by wildbill
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