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Will Boehner Demand That Obama Uphold The Law & Enforce William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Act?
7/11/2014 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 07/11/2014 2:48:02 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

We know this is a planned invasion...

But Boehner (Boner) has beat the drum of 'Obama does not uphold or enforce the law." Hint hint: Obama really, truly doesn't...

But...

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act Of 2008 will either be "upheld" and "enforced" by Obama - or it won't.

Under it, certain children under this Act are placed under the care of the Dept of Health and Human Services, are given the least restrictive environment, are given an attorney and can plead their case before a judge to stay in the U.S.

And GWB signed this into law (Public Law 110-457) on December 23, 2008.

If the present GOP in the House and Senate says scuttle this law, it will be a hit against Karl Rove, GWB, and by extension Jeb Bush and many in the GOP establishment.


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Will Boehner demand that Obama uphold and enforce this law?
1 posted on 07/11/2014 2:48:03 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What will Boehner do and say?


2 posted on 07/11/2014 2:49:26 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is the Pope Lutheran???


3 posted on 07/11/2014 2:54:20 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Böhner will include a partial repeal in the House bill IMO.
4 posted on 07/11/2014 2:54:25 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
You can bet the farm that anything Boehner does will be a disappointment to conservatives.
5 posted on 07/11/2014 2:55:07 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: Uncle Chip

No comment...


6 posted on 07/11/2014 2:55:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: MUDDOG
But what would GWB say about that?

Karl Rove, the GOP-E, and those who are big supporters of GWB and his presidency and presidential legacy may not take kindly to a partial repeal of the law.

And what if many children come before judges under this Act and say they were fleeing systemic abuse of all kinds at home, or were violated in their home countries (not Mexico) by the authorities, drug cartels, families, parents, etc?

7 posted on 07/11/2014 2:59:16 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
That's why I think it'll be partial, to try to narrowly address the current problem.

They'll leave as much of it in as possible to appease the GOPe.

8 posted on 07/11/2014 3:04:07 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

BO needs the distraction to reset the news media away from all his many scandals. So a few Central American kids die....what do they care?


9 posted on 07/11/2014 3:10:01 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“certain children under this Act are...”

Certain children?

Which ones?

How are the “certain” ones determined?


10 posted on 07/11/2014 3:38:36 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
What will Boehner do and say?

Boehner can either Point with Pride or View with Alarm. It doesn't matter to him. He has no operational morals and even less loyalty to his constituents. He is only slightly less worthless than Obama or Biden who precede him in the line of succession to what is rapidly becoming Zimbabwe west.

11 posted on 07/11/2014 3:39:16 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ifinnegan

Trafficking victims are those who are being transported for purposes of abuse, usually sexual.

Wiki: “Human trafficking is the trade in humans, most commonly for the purpose of sexual slavery, forced labor or commercial sexual exploitation for the trafficker or others...” They are slaves or kidnapping victims, not immigrants.

They are not volunteers, by definition. This law, at least in its original intent, does not apply to the vast majority of those presently coming into the country. If you hire a coyote to sneak you across the border, you are not a trafficking victim, though some have found out the hard way you can become one unexpectedly, especially cute young girls.

This law does not apply, it’s just being dishonestly used to justify lack of action to stop the influx.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 3:55:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

13 posted on 07/11/2014 4:01:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Boehner.... John just wants to go golfing and the crawl around DuPont Circle.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 4:14:29 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The Law's intention was to protect those unaccompanied children (about 5,000/yr) being trafficked for the purposes of sex or forced labor.

In fact, even Sen. Feinstein concedes that the law already contains a provision for exceptional circumstances...

In no F'in way was this intended for Obama to ram through 300,000 children & adult illegals....A higher court could clarify this for the administrative immigration courts in 2 seconds...

15 posted on 07/11/2014 5:13:04 PM PDT by babbabooey (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing...)
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To: Sherman Logan

“This law does not apply, “

I agree.

“it’s just being dishonestly used to justify lack of action to stop the influx.”

I think I know what you mean, but I’m not sure I follow.

Do you mean that the reason they are not deporting them is because they are dishonestly acting as if the law does apply to them, so therefore they cannot be immediately returned, and further must be given counsel of some sort?

That makes sense.


16 posted on 07/11/2014 5:20:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Yup. That’s what I meant. Guess it wasn’t as clear as I thought.


17 posted on 07/11/2014 5:24:16 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

It was clear enough.

I think it is correct and important to point out, so well done.

You articulated what I was getting at in my original post with the question.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 6:45:38 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Under it, certain children under this Act are placed under the care of the Dept of Health and Human Services, are given the least restrictive environment, are given an attorney and can plead their case before a judge to stay in the U.S.

This law is being used against the security of our country.

19 posted on 07/11/2014 7:12:50 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The William Wilberforce law of 2008 was to go to 2011.

What happened in 2011? Was it renewed, flipped, stayed on books?
http://www.state.gov/j/tip/laws/113178.htm

An Act

To authorize appropriations for fiscal years 2008 through 2011 for the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000, to enhance measures to combat trafficking in persons, and for other purposes.
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Central and South American children crossings were far lower until this year, I believe it was the DACA memo that started this ball rolling.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 7:36:11 AM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: ifinnegan

Those are found in details that we Americans aren’t generally privy to.


21 posted on 07/12/2014 8:38:50 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Don Corleone

I believe that you may have discovered that Bohener perhaps uses the finger in the wind strategy.

Like a lawsuit that will go nowhere, but was meant to appease the base and take a little steam off?


22 posted on 07/12/2014 8:40:02 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Sherman Logan
As you said - “the vast majority.”

That I wouldn't know, as I don't know all of them personally - perhaps you do.

Secondly, once they are here, again what do we do if before a judge they say that they have been sexually abused, either by captors who used them as mules, or by people from where they fled from (parents, relatives, local authorities) - mostly from regions where thugs are trafficking drugs.

Call them liars? Send them back to where they were, so that they can be abused again?

I personally don't have all of the answers, while some here seem to think they do. I would love to see their pearly white throne on high.

23 posted on 07/12/2014 8:43:50 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Travis McGee
So none of the kids have ever went through or experienced abuse, are fleeing from it at home, went through trials and ordeals that we cannot fathom as they were captured and exploited by human traffickers?

Not all of them were, that is logically obvious. But what do we do when they go before a judge and tell what they have experienced at home, or by their captor's who used them as mules, or in some other scenario?

Send them away?

Send the 5,000 away instead of feeding them and let them faint and perish in the wilderness? I don't think that Jesus would do that. But again, we cannot take all of the people of the world in that would like to come here, but we can help some, and thus quotas must be set so that we can help those we can. Would Jesus have said “I cannot save all of mankind, so why bother coming down to Earth and giving my life?” No. Like the man who strolled the beach tossing back starfish that washed ashore, he was told that he could save all of them, but he replied that he could save some, and that's what mattered.

24 posted on 07/12/2014 8:49:35 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: babbabooey
I agree, Obama has his agenda, but if any of those 30,000 have suffered abuse at home, or suffered abuse when they were by themselves as they fled a drug infested village, or suffered abuse at the hands of their captors who used them as drug mules, how can we in good conscience send them away? Sure, we cannot help all of them, but just like Jesus we can save some, and set a quota on those we can help. We cannot take in the whole planet, but we mustn’t let that strawman stop us from helping many of those 30,000 who may have suffered abuse.
25 posted on 07/12/2014 8:53:15 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
True, but tell that to any of the kids who suffered abuse at home before they fled, fled drug traffickers who used them as mules and abused them, etc.

Do I know of a super-solution? No. But I wouldn't pretend like some here that I do.

26 posted on 07/12/2014 8:55:33 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: libertarian27

Maybe Karl Rove has the answer.


27 posted on 07/12/2014 8:56:26 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Secondly, once they are here, again what do we do if before a judge they say that they have been sexually abused, either by captors who used them as mules, or by people from where they fled from (parents, relatives, local authorities) - mostly from regions where thugs are trafficking drugs.

"Children" who have fled from dangerous environments or been abused might be properly considered eligible for refugee status.

However, classifying them as "victims of human trafficking" is almost always disengenuous on the part of the classifiers. "Victims of human trafficking" are by defintion slaves, not voluntary refugees.

If you want to provide refuge to anybody from everywhere in the world where conditions are horrible, feel free to push for a law to do so.

Just don't claim those fleeing such conditions are something they aren't.

28 posted on 07/12/2014 9:17:48 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I can give you a non-solution...bring every kid world wide that has suffered abuse to the US.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 12:23:26 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Settled science.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You have to STOP THEM AT THE BORDER.

Once the precedent is established (it’s 99% established already) that anybody with a sob story who reaches American soil gets a lawyer, all bets are off.

We will see what the Italians are seeing, boats loaded with 100s at a time coming from Africa. Instant refugee status, then they disappear into Europe.

Do you think we should take in EVERY poor person who can create a sob story with the provided “key phrases” cheat sheet to guide them?

Can I send a dozen homeless folks to your house, where you will convert your garage to take care of them? They only want to use half of your refrigerator.

Okay by you? They all have VERY SAD stories. VERY SAD.


30 posted on 07/12/2014 12:34:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is how thousands of impoverished Africans from all over the continent are entering Italian waters day after day.

The Italians would not set the precedent of turning the boats back, but instead, take them to refugee centers, where they are released to disappear across Europe. Sound familiar?

If the USA can't stop rafts full of migrants from crossing the Rio Grande, and can't build a serious double border fence, what will cause us to be able to turn back refugee boats and ships?

We won't turn back ships full of kids, if we can't stop rafts.

Don't you understand that the "children's crusade" is the direct result of Pied Piper Obama announcing that children ("dreamers") would not be deported? The children are just the "human shield" sympathy mask on the front of the Trojan Horse invasion currently underway.

If you don't see that, let me private mail you about this great bargain I will let you in on involving very lucrative bridges in the NY area I'll sell you very cheap.


31 posted on 07/12/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

No, but he’ll go on TeeVee and cry about it. And then blame the TEA Party. Or something.


32 posted on 07/12/2014 1:04:35 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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