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Rep. Sensenbrenner: Abolish the ATF
washington free beacon ^ | July 10, 2014 1:23 pm | washington free beacon staff

Posted on 07/11/2014 4:02:18 PM PDT by RC one

Edited on 07/11/2014 4:11:23 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Citing ATF’s recent operational failures and its overlap with other federal law enforcement, Sensenbrenner is preparing a bill to dissolve the agency and have existing agencies in the U.S. Justice Department take on its duties.

“By absorbing the ATF into existing law enforcement entities, we can preserve the areas where the ATF adds value for substantially less taxpayer money,” Sensenbrenner said. “While searching for its mission, the ATF has been plagued by decades of high-profile blunders. …We cannot afford to ignore clear changes that will greatly enhance the government’s efficiency.”


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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; guns; sensenbrenner

1 posted on 07/11/2014 4:02:19 PM PDT by RC one
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To: RC one

No. Keep law enforcement balkanized. You do NOT want to concentrate power.


2 posted on 07/11/2014 4:03:51 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RC one

The ATF was always a trailer-park trash outfit from the very beginning. They literally had nothing to do after the end of Prohibition. Tobacco and firearms were rolled in to give them something to do. They have the lowest standards of any federal law enforcement agency. The dumber and more corrupt you are, the easier it is to get in.


3 posted on 07/11/2014 4:06:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I just like the idea of thousands of unemployed ATF NAZIs.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 4:06:49 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

alcohol, tobacco and firearms are all legal


5 posted on 07/11/2014 4:10:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RC one

BATF

2012 budget - $1.15 Billion
4,770 employees

And alcohol, tobacco and firearms are all legal.


6 posted on 07/11/2014 4:11:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RC one

How will the Cartels get the weapons they desire??


7 posted on 07/11/2014 4:12:40 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: GeronL

That’s a quarter million dollars per employee...and I assume most of their cost is employees....OMG....!


8 posted on 07/11/2014 4:13:03 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: RC one

LOL Well. There IS that. I like the way you think.

To be honest, I thought he was advocating combining it with another Agency. And while that does result in a little downsizing, the usual result is more centralized police power.


9 posted on 07/11/2014 4:16:16 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: RC one

Just make them into the “AT”, let them keep their badges and pull their guns.

Make them into an entity that attends to tobacco and booze paperwork matters.


10 posted on 07/11/2014 4:16:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: RIghtwardHo
I'm always happy to destroy a department of the leviathan government.

Constitutionally, the feds have no business dealing with alcohol, tobacco, or firearms at all. Let the IRS handle the tax issues. Police powers belong at the state level, never at the federal government level.

Concentrate it, and kill it (metaphorically speaking).

/johnny

11 posted on 07/11/2014 4:35:08 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RC one

The EPA has to go.

Now.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 4:54:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: RC one

Makes too much sense.....Will never happen.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 4:58:42 PM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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To: BenLurkin

absolutely.


14 posted on 07/11/2014 5:08:10 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: GeronL
Is every one forgetting that it is, and has been the BATFE for a long time now.
They also get to control and kill you for possession of any explosives or their components.
15 posted on 07/11/2014 5:24:22 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB

I’m sure the FBI wouldn’t mind enforcing the law on explosives in conjunction with state and local law enforcement.


16 posted on 07/11/2014 5:32:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RIghtwardHo
No. Keep law enforcement balkanized. You do NOT want to concentrate power.

What a stupid statement. They are just different arms of the same concentrated power coming at you from different directions.

17 posted on 07/11/2014 5:44:58 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: RC one

ATF is just a dumping ground for losers who aren’t smart enough for any other govt. agency.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 5:58:34 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: RC one
There was talk of this when Congress investigated ATF and the Ken Ballew case. ATF was not disbanded because no other federal agency would take ANY former ATF agents. They were that low on the federal LEO food chain. Nothing has changed in 45 years.
19 posted on 07/11/2014 6:04:17 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

The money could hire 10,000 new Border Patrol officers


20 posted on 07/11/2014 6:05:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RC one
Citing ATF’s recent operational failures and its overlap with other federal law enforcement, Sensenbrenner is preparing a bill to dissolve the agency and have existing agencies in the U.S. Justice Department take on its duties.

A approve of everything except the underlined.

21 posted on 07/11/2014 7:19:53 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RC one

“Abolish the ATF”?
HOw about abolishing about 80 percent of this worthless f-ing overly intrusive federal gub mint?


22 posted on 07/12/2014 2:30:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Joe Boucher

I’d vote yea on that.


23 posted on 07/12/2014 2:31:26 AM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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