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4 Gun Nut Talking Points Debunked By A Gun Owner (Super Barf)
Forward Progressives ^ | 7/11/14 | Manny Schewitz

Posted on 07/13/2014 8:40:50 AM PDT by Celerity

(Excerpted)

1. Liberals just want to take away guns, just like Hitler: If I had five bucks for every time I’ve witnessed Godwin’s Law in action, I’d be sitting on the front porch of my vacation home in the Bahamas, looking at my 55′ sportfisher tied up to the dock. Almost every gun nut you deal with will inevitably mention Hitler, because gun nuts have been conditioned by the NRA to point to Nazi Germany as proof that the march to fascism and tyranny involves stricter regulation of guns. Except, there’s this one little fact: In 1938, under Nazi rule, gun laws became significantly more relaxed. Rifle and shotgun possession were deregulated, and gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and government officials was expanded. The legal age to own a gun was lowered. Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons. (Source) The fact remains that very few people in America want outright gun confiscation, despite what all the NRA-funded propaganda and Alex Jones-styled conspiracy stories say. Sure, you have some crazy lefties who think all of humanity can get along by enlightenment and enough bong hits around a campfire, but those are a minority.

(Excerpt) Read more at forwardprogressives.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: antigun; gungrabbers; moonbats
Seriously, mind-bendingly psychotic views here. Yet, it's also one that I see both libs and RINOs parroting.

I can't even fathom such diseased thinking to retort - I'm just, spell-bound and speechless. I don't understand how someone with this though process can function and express them.

Truly satanic people here. Anyway, Comments welcome !

-> Steve

1 posted on 07/13/2014 8:40:50 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

This dipstick just said, in one paragraph, that we are wrong to compare and contrast the behaviors of gun-grabbers and our current white house occupants - Then goes on to PRAISE the NAZIs.

PRAISES THEM.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 8:42:08 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

Not clicking on that link. Wouldn’t be prudent.


3 posted on 07/13/2014 8:44:55 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Celerity

Just wow. And some of the comments there are worse.


4 posted on 07/13/2014 8:46:55 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Celerity

“Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons.”

That’s an outright gun ban right there. And once they were disarmed, six million Jews died.

Support the right to keep and bear arms.


5 posted on 07/13/2014 8:49:02 AM PDT by Redcitizen (Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things.)
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To: Celerity

I guess none of Manny Schewitz’s family had a run in with those freindly gun owning Germans at say... Babi Yar.


6 posted on 07/13/2014 8:49:52 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BenLurkin

Ditto.


7 posted on 07/13/2014 8:51:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: Celerity

Who is this doosh?

There is so much factually wrong with what he writes that I think a ‘ghost’ was involved.

.243 at 600 yards? Only in your wildest dreams. .556 at the same range? Ask any grunt who has ever shot one.

This b@ast@rd is seriously delusional.


8 posted on 07/13/2014 8:56:10 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: Celerity

Certainly not a gun owner.

On the slim chance the person is, they’re one of those “sport hunters” that doesn’t care about what the government does as long as they don’t touch their hunting firearms.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 8:59:19 AM PDT by wastedyears (Everything Obama does wrong is Bush's fault.)
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To: Celerity; SgtBob; Chode

Hey Sarge, when You get back from The Great Ozark Fish Slaughter kin Ya go SLAP!!! this dipstick manny schewitz.

Thanks in advance.

PukePing


10 posted on 07/13/2014 8:59:20 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: Celerity

Major”Barf-Alert”!This”Idiot”just illustrates how Dangerous a”Little”knowledge TRULY IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 07/13/2014 9:01:02 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Celerity

Notice how the REGISTRATION part leading to CONFISCATION is ignored.

Yes manny they/you that want “gun control” ARE JUST LIKE THE F’ing nazi’s.


12 posted on 07/13/2014 9:02:39 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: All

Hey ! Look what I just found about this little sh!tbag !

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/heres-just-how-easy-it-is-to-get-an-assault-rifle-images/

He bought his gun a few months ago from a gun show !


13 posted on 07/13/2014 9:05:48 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

And liberals wonder why “Nobody wants to take your guns away!” is universally perceived as an utter lie.

“Liberal gun owner” is not oxymoronic, but close. Liberals who own guns are confident that if/when gun laws become confiscatorily restrictive, that they will be among the privileged elite allowed to have guns.

As in New York state or any other state than requires a Firearms Owner I.D. card. Lose the FOID for any reason (such as treatment for mental illness) and the police show up at your door and they take your guns away. It’s already happening.


14 posted on 07/13/2014 9:06:34 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Celerity

[ Except, there’s this one little fact: In 1938, under Nazi rule, gun laws became significantly more relaxed. Rifle and shotgun possession were deregulated, and gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and government officials was expanded. ]

Umm precisely the point that we try to make, they take away the guns from everyone and only give them back to certain “approved” groups....

I’ll bet a Jewish hunter still couldn’t have gotten a shotgun to help defend the Jewish Ghettos from Nazi trash....

Freeking Moron Article.


15 posted on 07/13/2014 9:12:42 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Celerity
In 1938, under Nazi rule, gun laws became significantly more relaxed. Rifle and shotgun possession were deregulated, and gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and government officials was expanded. The legal age to own a gun was lowered. Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons.

He uses THIS quote to support his argument that the Nazis didn't increase controls on guns. Sheesh!

16 posted on 07/13/2014 9:16:57 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: x1stcav

“.243 at 600 yards? Only in your wildest dreams.”

In this age of “Rainbow Persons” how can you have anything against rainbow trajectories?


17 posted on 07/13/2014 9:23:53 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: Celerity

“gun access for hunters, Nazi Party members, and government officials was expanded. The legal age to own a gun was lowered. Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons.”

Besides the hunters he said all this like it was a good thing...


18 posted on 07/13/2014 9:26:04 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: piytar

could you post some of the comments? I hate giving a click point to a retard blog.


19 posted on 07/13/2014 9:34:32 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: piytar

could you post some of the comments? I hate giving a click point to a retard blog.


20 posted on 07/13/2014 9:35:21 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

The comments won’t change your life. Just think of the stupidest things you can say, mix in a little “I want everyone to be slaves” and you’ve got it.


21 posted on 07/13/2014 9:36:50 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

OK lol


22 posted on 07/13/2014 9:37:45 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: mabarker1
i always thought it was spelled

23 posted on 07/13/2014 10:06:43 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Celerity

What I get out of his rant is that our gun control nuts are worse than Nazis.


24 posted on 07/13/2014 10:07:17 AM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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“Forward Progress”

Utopian agitprop.


25 posted on 07/13/2014 10:12:29 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Celerity

” Jews, however, were prohibited from owning firearms and other dangerous weapons. “

never let the little details get in the way of the Left Wing meme that Hitler “relaxed” gun control laws.


26 posted on 07/13/2014 10:14:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Celerity

“some sort of licensing requirements for military grade weapons”

Discredited for using the non-sequitur, ‘military grade’.


27 posted on 07/13/2014 10:54:45 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Celerity
The idiot isn't a gun owner that knows anything. He may be holding a gun, but it's probably borrowed.

This statement "...not a tricked-out assault rifle with a 30 or 100 round clip."

Says it all.

28 posted on 07/13/2014 11:21:45 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Celerity

Progressive is doublespeak for regressive


29 posted on 07/13/2014 11:25:36 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Celerity

So Manny Schewitz thinks being stripped of all means of self-defense in an anti-Semitic hell while “gun access for Nazi Party members and government officials was expanded” worked out well for Jews?

This has to be satire in very poor taste. No one could be stupid or evil enough to argue this seriously.


30 posted on 07/13/2014 11:25:52 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Malsua

In one of my posts, I link to an article written just 2 weeks ago about “how easy it was for (him) to buy this rifle at a gun show”

He’s only had the rifle for a few months... and he used a gunshow to get it. Probably because he heard “... how easy it was” and he is actually flagged to not get one.


31 posted on 07/13/2014 11:57:07 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

Interesting mix of accurate and inaccurate information and irrelevancies.

What difference does it make that a .22 is rimfire while a 5.56 is centerfire? Makes no difference whatsoever to ballistic performance. You could make a much more powerful round using rimfire, and they were made in the past. Would seem the roughly double mass of the bullet and greatly increased propellant and therefore velocity of the 5.56 is a good bit more relevant.

The 5.56 is certainly capable of lethality at 600 meters, it’s just that a hit on anything you’re aiming for at that range isn’t likely.

The “more guns equals less crime” meme is misused by both sides of the debate. It all depends on who has the guns. More guns in the hands of criminals and thugs means more crime. More guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens less. More guns in the hands of both probably means less crime overall. But guns in and of themselves cause neither an increase nor a reduction of crime.


32 posted on 07/13/2014 1:04:20 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Chewbarkah
stripped of all means of self-defense

The problem with this argument is that it implies Jews, and by implication other Germans, were well-armed prior to their weaponry being taken away by the Nazis.

The actual fact is that privately-owned firearms were thin on the ground in Germany long before the Nazis came to power.

The scary part is not that the Nazis immediately passes laws to disarm their opponents. It's that they used the registration laws and records passed by their democratic predecessors to do so.

33 posted on 07/13/2014 1:13:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Celerity
"I’ve personally stopped a home burglary with a gun, but it was with a concealed carry Keltec .380..."

Sure you did, punk.

34 posted on 07/13/2014 2:04:32 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Celerity

4) Never heard anyone say this to defend gun rights. Straw man.
3) Concealed carry has become more liberalized since the 1990’s, with most states now being “shall issue”. At the same time, murders have decreased substantially.
2) If the problem with Chicago was guns, then why don’t those same guns cause havoc in the places where they come from?
1) Sounds like to me that Hitler took guns away from everyone but the Jews. Much like modern politicians throw up barriers to minority ownership of firearms. Wonder why he did that? Oh wait...history tells us why.

One thing is for certain...no citizen could own a Sturmgewehr, even semi automatic only. Limiting gun ownership to hunting is still gun control, so the comparision stands.


35 posted on 07/13/2014 3:18:12 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: Sherman Logan

“The problem with this argument is that it implies Jews, and by implication other Germans, were well-armed prior to their weaponry being taken away by the Nazis.”

What I wrote implies no such thing, although I would agree that German Jews were probably never well-armed. Some German Jews doubtless possessed some means of self-defense prior to systematic confiscation, and little or none thereafter. The Nazis’ purpose was at least threefold. They wanted to render their victims helpless; they wanted to fuel popular hysteria that the Jews were somehow dangerous and needed to be neutralized; and they wished to have a pretext for searches, arrests, persecution, and expropriation of their victims. Things Lois Lerner-types could really get into today.

Your final statement is a compelling argument that “Manny Schewitz” and his ilk should answer (that name sounds so much like a wine; is he punking us to push our buttons?).

As a side issue, statistics on “privately owned” firearms in interwar Germany seem unlikely to capture the reality of “firearms on the ground”, considering widespread access to military weapons by Freicorps, reservists, SA, various “marching units”, workers’ and communist cells, etc. I suspect the latter figured large in the Nazi’s fantasies about armed Jews.


36 posted on 07/13/2014 6:29:43 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Celerity

Manny Schewitz

37 posted on 07/13/2014 6:37:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Celerity

“Manny Schewitz is a Progressive from the Dirty South with an inclination to say it like it is. He is a co-founder of Forward Progressives,”

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/author/manny-schewitz/


38 posted on 07/13/2014 6:39:22 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Celerity

He hates Sarah Palin

Whiskey and the morning after blog shared Manny Schewitz’s photo.
2 hrs ·
As much as I would like to see you-know-who rendered forever speechless, nobody is going to destroy her in one sentence. This is little more than reactionary clickbait with a couple of sentences wrapped around an embedded YouTube video in order to collect ad revenue.

https://www.facebook.com/watmab/posts/820986901254041


39 posted on 07/13/2014 6:42:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: FLAMING DEATH

I must take this opportunity to address you - as well as everyone on FR. Everyone within ear shot to my address :

Gun control has never been about safety. The actions of those in charge (Not the people that the media thinks) have never been to improve our prosperity. For the last 100 years you have felt as though your freedoms have been slipping away and been replaced with something _else_.

Gun control is about control. It’s about subjugation. The US isn’t the only one in the scope. The whole planet is. The US has presented unique challenges when it comes to subjugation. We have a recent memory of subjugation, a recent memory of fighting tyrants on a global scale, and an independent freedom and god-given right to arm ourselves against any tyrant or thug, regardless of how big they are.

That is the fact.

Also in the realm of facts is that our economy is collapsed. Already. It’s not “going to collapse”. It already has. But you see, with a population such as the US has, when we learn who is at the helm of that collapse we will be poised to do something about it.

And the economic collapse (Or resource-based economy... “slavery”) will involve removing your kids from your house and re-educating them to be more subservient. When that happens it is important that “you” be disarmed and compliant.

Do not register, do not comply and and under no circumstances let these tyrants know that you exist. Stay quiet, stay vigilant and resist. Your worst nightmares are only the surface of what is planned.


40 posted on 07/13/2014 8:22:37 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: mabarker1; B4Ranch; Chode

I’ve returned from the Great Ozarks Fish Slaughter.....reminder to self; never go fishing with yer MIL! It was fun catchin’ her limit, but listenin’ to her whining wasn’t worth the extra creel limit.

How sad that DipSchewitz is from Lafayette....and a FReepTroll....and a self-loathing Jew. Puke Ping = hit nail on the head! If LimpSchewitz was worth a trip 2 hours south, I’d be on it.

Just finished Loudon oval, and laughed ma arse off with 6 whine, whining about Goodyear tires....Hehehehehehehehe!

It was good to really git off the grid. Gotta clear the mind, now and again. I vow to spend more time without electricity, and more time on the range;-)

Two weeks from yesterday will find me in Las Vegas ta beat ‘em outta enough money get four tickets to ‘Dega....IT WILL NOT RAIN!

Gimme a couple days ta catch up;-)


41 posted on 07/14/2014 6:32:40 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: SgtBob
the Great Las Vegas Casino Slaughter... 8^)
42 posted on 07/14/2014 6:38:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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