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Conservatives we have to get our Act Together!

Posted on 07/15/2014 6:51:41 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment

Fellow conservatives, now is the time for us to decide on a 2016 Presidential candidate. With Hillary the ostensible and heavily flawed democratic nominee, we must decide early and decisively on a conservative contender. We cannot have years of dumb debates that let the democrats chew us up and continue their regime of destruction. Here are some of my handicaps for the 2016 election. 1.Christie - definitely a RINO, back stabbing, recent convert to pro-life positions. -I cannot vote for this man! 2. Jeb Bush - perhaps the most competent of the Bushes, but now way. Way too many Bushes with their baggage. Would vote for him with gag response. 3. Rick Perry- Somewhat more attractive, but inarticulate and too close to Bushes - perhaps weak on immigration. Would vote reluctantly. 4. Sarah - Definitely an ideologically sound candidate. Bit shrill and been kneecapped by liberals - probably unelectable. Would vote avidly for her. 5. Scott Walker. Kinda of an unknown for me. Right on the issues,conscientious fighter . . but little nationwide presence. No problem voting for him. 6. Ted Cruz. Finally a candidate that is moral, rock steady on all the major issues. Been savagely attacked by both Dems and Repubs. Dismissed by Bill O'Reilly and Laura Ingram. A little light on the Resume, but my favorite candidate. Reaganesque in all of his actions. Definitely the candidate to turn America around, but can he get 270 electoral votes and withstand the withering attacks by his own party and the evil ones? If anyone out there in FreeRepublic land can give me additional insight on this topic please feel free to do so. Only the future of our Republic and the SCOTUS hangs in the balance!


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1 posted on 07/15/2014 6:51:41 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: 2nd Amendment

We have to have an announced candidate or “getting our act together” is play acting without a point.


2 posted on 07/15/2014 6:53:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

Ted Cruz is my man. I’ll not vote for any of the others. I’m not wondering whether SP will run; she won’t. It is Ted or Nothing. I won’t be voting for any RINOs this time. I’m done with that.


3 posted on 07/15/2014 6:54:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2nd Amendment
In three elections in a row, conservative have been backstabbed.


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Romney: "Obama was born in the United States"

Romney: "Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate"

Romney: "The citizenship test has been passed"

4 posted on 07/15/2014 6:55:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2nd Amendment

We seriously don’t need another 2012 where we dump candidates because of one thing they said 14 years ago that wasn’t 1000000% conservative or where we have people pushing for candidates with no charisma, but because they can recite a Bible verse verbatim or because their kids have really nice teeth, that somehow makes them more viable.


5 posted on 07/15/2014 6:58:44 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: cripplecreek

however every time unity is close either some nutcase decides to run for the same office or a paid decoy is pushed into the election. The useful idiots break ranks and run to these dead enders.


6 posted on 07/15/2014 7:00:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: VanDeKoik

What examples would fit that rather strange description?


7 posted on 07/15/2014 7:04:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Diogenesis

Yeah, you’re right! I left off Romney and Rand Paul.
Romney - a RINO perhaps. . a pretty good campaigher in ‘12, refused to take the Kenyan to task for Benghazi when he had the chance. I would find it difficult to pull the lever for him again.
Rand Paul. somewhat problematic. Light resume. vague on border protection, too many of his dad’s wacko libertarian views. Probably go easy on pot smoking. I would vote for him, however.


8 posted on 07/15/2014 7:09:45 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: longtermmemmory

Right On! Pick a person now before the Democrat-Progressives do it for us. They will saddle us with a Bush or Mittens—anyone their person can defeat. I will vote for ANYONE with a “R” behind the name!!!! I will never vote for a “D” again!
I will stay home no more—Look what it got us? We must rally behind someone and support him! I don’t care if they are a Mormon, Woman, Black, White or Brown—as long as they support 50% of the Republican ideals. I could even vote for Trump! (heck , he knows business)-— The personal politics of destruction employed by the Progs have wrecked the nation and put us all in harms way. No more “experiments” with exotic people, women, etc... I want an old dude with a few brains in his head. No more taking an issue (Mittens was bad to his dog—or Sarah Palin hunts cute little animals and eats them)


9 posted on 07/15/2014 7:11:01 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I would really like someone with executive experience, preferably a governor.


10 posted on 07/15/2014 7:18:17 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: 2nd Amendment
Here' a winning slate:

Trump: Moneyman, would pull rats and Indies over to support his economic growth plans. Captures the NE. Supports Cruz heavily.
VP: Cruz, making him also president of the Senate.
Speaker of the House: Trey Gowdy. Will drain the DC swamp in a year.
WH Spokesman: Sarah Palin, for obvious reasons.
SecDef: Oliver North.
SecState: Louie Gohmert.
Chief of Staff: Judge Jeanine Pirro.

Feel free to add.

11 posted on 07/15/2014 7:18:31 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: 2nd Amendment

Rand Paul has the best shot at reaching outside the GOP base vote (which is just not enough to win by itself).


12 posted on 07/15/2014 7:18:51 AM PDT by PlasticMan
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To: 2nd Amendment

First you have to define conservative.


13 posted on 07/15/2014 7:19:13 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
I will vote for ANYONE with a “R” behind the name!!!!

If you vote for a liberal republican, you ARE a liberal.

/johnny

14 posted on 07/15/2014 7:19:38 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: VanDeKoik
We don't need another 2012 where the liberal candidate doesn't even match the party platform.

/johnny

15 posted on 07/15/2014 7:20:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Drew68

That’s way Governor Walker is my choice. Is he perfect, no. But he has been in the arena, and kicking Rat ass the whole time.


16 posted on 07/15/2014 7:21:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2nd Amendment

Pick the strongest conservative Republican governor. He won’t satisfy everybody but if we can get 60% conservative, I can vote for him.....or her.

Don’t even consider Christie!!


17 posted on 07/15/2014 7:29:43 AM PDT by jch10 (WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM THE COYOTE IN CHIEF?)
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To: 2nd Amendment

Hillary will not be the nominee.


18 posted on 07/15/2014 7:31:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. Hat)
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To: longtermmemmory

Its the natural order of things and nothing will change it. No different from the idiots who decide everybody but their preferred candidate is secretly working for someone else.

Ya just can’t fix stupid.


19 posted on 07/15/2014 7:41:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2nd Amendment
Rand Paul. somewhat problematic. Light resume. vague on border protection,

Vague? He's all wrapped around Glenn Beck as we speak.

20 posted on 07/15/2014 7:45:40 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: PlasticMan

Unfortunately Rand Paul has chosen to go insane and is even driving libertarians away at this point. Until a few months ago I saw him as a great choice for VP but pandering to the lowest common denominator has ended him in my book.


21 posted on 07/15/2014 7:46:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ansel12

The merry-go-round dumping of candidates before the first primary back in 2012 because candidate X said something that wasn’t perfect like 10 years ago.

Then we had the trainereck of Rick Santorum being championed almost because he went to church every Sunday and his kids were just so adorable. Didn’t matter that he had the presence of a wet piece of cardboard. We blew a chance to bump Romney after South Carolina, but people just had to push that guy, and accomplished nothing but splitting the vote.


22 posted on 07/15/2014 7:47:56 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: 2nd Amendment
Sarah - Definitely an ideologically sound candidate. Bit shrill and been kneecapped by liberals

She's not kneecapped by liberals, she gets death threats from them. She's kneecapped by Rove type RINO's.

23 posted on 07/15/2014 7:49:18 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Take the senate THEN impeach.

without the senate impeachment goes reid nowhere.

take the senate, impeach holder.

and then move on to the next.

But all AFTER this election.


24 posted on 07/15/2014 7:50:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dfwgator

As` I understand it, Walker doesn’t want to run


25 posted on 07/15/2014 7:51:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: 2nd Amendment
Romney did not run a good campaign in 2012. I defy anyone to tell me what his message was. He was the typical moderate candidate that has nothing to say but simply wants to be president. He is another elitist prick that the GOPe drools over, but only they will truly support. Most Americans won't vote for an out-of-touch elitist like Romney or the Bush gang. I voted for Romney once, but won't a second time. He had his shot, he blew it, so it is time for someone new.
26 posted on 07/15/2014 7:52:09 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: VanDeKoik

What statements 10 and 14 years ago?

How are we to know what a politician’s positions are if we don’t look at his politics?


27 posted on 07/15/2014 7:55:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: cripplecreek
NOT ONE of our trusted constitutional conservatives has announced unequivocal support for McDaniel or condemned those 'pubs who donated to Cochran's dirty campaign. Not one (DC or governors) has a solution NOW for stopping hordes of central americans from swarming the US. Is it a lack of guts or a lack of problem solving ability in a fast moving emergency? Whichever it is, no one has been presidential.

I'm totally opposed to getting behind anyone until we give a real leader time to emerge. At this point, I'd say give Jeff Sessions a look. He's the one who has been unafraid to express his believes.

But don't ask me to choose now and be traitored again by someone who's too sure of us. It happens every time.

28 posted on 07/15/2014 7:56:34 AM PDT by grania
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To: 2nd Amendment

Perhaps we should wait for someone to declare first.


29 posted on 07/15/2014 8:02:40 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I don't want the liberal republican leadership to have a Senate majority.

They wouldn't impeach Holder even if they did. They are liberal.

/johnny

30 posted on 07/15/2014 8:04:02 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: txhurl
I wouldn't mind considering Trump/Cruz, but it would be too creative for a lot of people. It would be interesting and Trump knows how to draw attention to himself. This could appeal to everyone except the blah-blah-blah-know it all most rabid dems.

FWIW, when GWB was pre-ordained by the ptb as a real conservative (with no voting record, oops) Steve Forbes and Dan Quayle looked like contenders. I suspect the US would be in a totally different, better place if we had eight years of Forbes/Quayle (or Quayle/Forbes) instead of GWB. Why? They both know and have lived their areas of specialty.

31 posted on 07/15/2014 8:04:13 AM PDT by grania
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To: txhurl

I would make Sara Palin Sec. of the Interior.


32 posted on 07/15/2014 8:07:26 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Major Matt Mason

Yeh, You’re right. He certainly didn’t excite. Outdebated Odumbo, but it didn’t matter with the low info voter and Christie’s caressing of Zero hours before the election.
I’m just saying I don’t want to listen to 2 years of debates where conservatives pummel eachother and open the door for the decimation of America by the dims. Right now, I’ll take Cruz, Walker, Palin and support them without batting an eye. I want a MORAL Conservative that feels God, liberty, and freedom in his veins and doesn’t have to check with SEIU, or latest polling organization for his values!


33 posted on 07/15/2014 8:23:19 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
" I will vote for ANYONE with a “R” behind the name!!!!"

That kind of mindset saddled us with Dole, McCain, Romney, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and on and on.

" I will never vote for a “D” again!"

If you vote for a liberal Republican, you might as well.

34 posted on 07/15/2014 8:26:27 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I’m with Ted Cruz all the way!


35 posted on 07/15/2014 9:12:14 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: VanDeKoik

I actually think in 2012 we had some who were dumping candidates without ever truly choosing their own. Every time the momentum would shift, we’d hear the bashing, name-calling, horrendous outcry of these critics, never heard them say anything good about any candidate.

Negative toxic posts that totally destroy whatever morale we had left.


36 posted on 07/15/2014 9:20:55 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: longtermmemmory
Taking the Senate by a slim majority only means Reid will not be Majority Leader, which in itself would be a worthwhile accomplishment, Impeachment is a pipe dream as long as McConnell, McCain, and Graham and their ilk remain in office.
37 posted on 07/15/2014 9:24:28 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: VanDeKoik
We seriously don’t need another 2012 where we dump candidates because of one thing they said 14 years ago that wasn’t 1000000% conservative or where we have people pushing for candidates with no charisma, but because they can recite a Bible verse verbatim or because their kids have really nice teeth, that somehow makes them more viable.

So you're for romney? He is the reason we have obama. He wouldn't fight for what is right because he doesn't recognize evil. People like him are the reason we have same sex marriage, abortion, sex ed for kindergardeners. Mitt Romney supported gay Scout leaders 20 years ago, and restated that support after winning the 2012 nomination. Romney took action against the Boy Scouts in the 2002 Winter Olympics, because of their no-gays stance. He won't win. Never. He won't get the base. He has no courage or personality. He's still a flip flopper, pro abortion and same sex marriage at heart. He's a liar, cheater, pro Cochran, can't be trusted in any way. I'll never vote for him even against Hillary. I'll stay home. He's not lessor of two evils, he's equally evil.

I think obama was punishment for compromising our values and trusting people who knew from experience were evil. No way we vote for any rino like romney, bush....and Yes to cruz. Sorry it upsets you he can quote bible versus. At least he doesn't believe in becoming a god and having his own planet and follows prophets who change their rules to fit political candidate. Funny how their god speaks to them just in time to run for office, and always changes.

If your not for romney sorry, but anyone who starts talking about electing a rino candidate will be attacked by me and others. We have compromised too much. If we stand firm behind someone who is a true conservative we will win.

38 posted on 07/15/2014 9:24:33 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
I will vote for ANYONE with a “R” behind the name!!!! I will never vote for a “D” again! I will stay home no more—Look what it got us? We must rally behind someone and support him! I don’t care if they are a Mormon, Woman, Black, White or Brown—as long as they support 50% of the Republican ideals.

Repeated, simply so we can remember to do the exact opposite of what you suggest. Republican voters, sadly, own the mess that we created. There is always going to be a radical left. What Republican voters did, however, was grant them unlimited power, by allowing Republican allies of the left to rise to the top of the party.

I will vote Democrat. Or stay home. I will oppose, with every fiber of my being, the treasonous vermin who now represent the great states of Texas, Mississippi, Kentucky, South Carolina, Arizona, and others. I will oppose the treacherous national party, and their lapdogs in the state parties. If it means third party, so be it. If it means voting democrat, so be it. But I will never, as long as I live, lend anything but opposition to the establishment GOP.

Staying home didn't get us where we are. Holding our noses and voting, did.
39 posted on 07/15/2014 9:24:50 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the Republican plantation)
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To: PlasticMan
Rand Paul has the best shot at reaching outside the GOP base vote (which is just not enough to win by itself).

The only Republican in the modern era to really attract independents, and blue collar democrats, was the "unelectable" Reagan. None of the "electable" candidates did.

Rand Paul, given his recent actions, is not capable of doing so. It would take an articulate conservative, with well-thought out positions, to do so. The only national candidate that meets that criterion is Ted Cruz. Unfortunately, the GOPe will work with their Democrat brethren to defeat him, or any candidate like him. And, ironically enough, the big lie which they would use to destroy him is his lack of "electability", even though he the only candidate with that electability.
40 posted on 07/15/2014 9:35:01 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the Republican plantation)
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To: Linda Frances

I was for Newt, because I wanted to stop Romney. After the SC primary, we were on our way.

But apparently he made some “stupid” speech about America needing to preserve our lead in space before the Florida primary, and that was just too much for us.


41 posted on 07/15/2014 9:36:21 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: txhurl
WH Spokesman: Sarah Palin, for obvious reasons.

Mainly to see the enemedia squirm!

42 posted on 07/15/2014 9:49:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Linda Frances
We have compromised too much. If we stand firm behind someone who is a true conservative we will win.

Finding one is the problem. If you insist upon NO warts, you'll never have an acceptable candidate.

43 posted on 07/15/2014 9:58:00 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
The last GOP presidential candidate didn't even match his own party platform.

There's a big difference between insisting on someone perfect (which no-one was), and not wanting a pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-amnesty, pro-socialized medicine, big-government liberal.

/johnny

44 posted on 07/15/2014 10:10:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I’m more interested in getting a conservative platform than finding a candidate. You would think we could find a decent conservative to run, but they are few and far between.


45 posted on 07/15/2014 10:18:47 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I think my southern neighbors need to look at other options. Anyone who thinks voting is going to fix the country isn’t aware of how bad things are.


46 posted on 07/15/2014 11:12:33 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: JimRed

Was that Romney’s problem, warts?


47 posted on 07/15/2014 5:41:17 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Romney wouldn’t have governed as a liberal. He would have governed as a moderate conservative, and he would have been far less damaging than Obama. That’s why Sarah Palin endorsed him.


48 posted on 07/15/2014 6:13:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Linda Frances
If we stand firm behind someone who is a true conservative we will win.

If you are truly blind to what the electorate wants, you'll never elect anyone. A true conservative won't ever win the White House as this candidate won't pull any more than the Red States.

The most electable candidate is going to need some crossover appeal for the mushy moderates so you'll win states like Ohio and Florida. Winning Mississippi and Wyoming just won't cut it anymore.
49 posted on 07/15/2014 6:15:50 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Yardstick
He certainly did govern as a liberal when he was Governor of MA.

Doesn't matter. He was unelectable. As proven by the fact he wasn't elected.

/johnny

50 posted on 07/15/2014 6:17:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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