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BMX bicycle question: what kind of 20'' wheel do i need for a 9t "microdrive? cassette hub?
7-15-14 | daniel1212

Posted on 07/15/2014 4:21:45 PM PDT by daniel1212

I have been able to do many (free) basic repairs on bikes in this poor inner city, thank God, but now my neighbor needs a new rear wheel for a BMX bike as the old rim was run over by a car. It has the smaller type sprocket on both the crank ("chainring?") and the rear wheel, and when i tried to put the old hub in a freewheel rim then it would not fit. And with the smaller type crank then a the larger, standard type rear sprocket is not feasible.

I have looked a lot online, and see many 20'' wheels at places such as Niagara Cycle , but evidently they do not come with the sprocket/cogset, and I see no description that tells (ignorant) me what will hub and cogset fit.

The old one looked like this one i saw on ebay, the best i can see. Could i place the hub from one such as that on a wheel like this?

Thanks for any advice and corrections any would give.


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KEYWORDS: bicycles; bmx; wheels
The short question is what kind of 20'' wheel description would tell me the smaller ("microdrive?") cassette type, hub and 9t cogset/sprocket (if i have the terminology correct) 3/8/ 10mm axle/spindle would fit in it?
1 posted on 07/15/2014 4:21:45 PM PDT by daniel1212
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To: daniel1212

You lost me at “wheel”.


2 posted on 07/15/2014 4:23:30 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: daniel1212

Is it a Democrat wheel or Libertarian?


3 posted on 07/15/2014 4:33:35 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: daniel1212

Where I’m from, kids get their bicycles stolen, and they wind up down in this guy’s inner city. Swell.


4 posted on 07/15/2014 4:35:33 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Veggie Todd

Wheel as in rim as in bicycle.


5 posted on 07/15/2014 4:37:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
There is a lot of good information about bicycles right here.

The guy looks like he was a bit of a nutcase (check out the pics), but he knew his stuff.

6 posted on 07/15/2014 4:41:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator (#cornedbeef)
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To: daniel1212

If it’s expensive I’d forget about it and just buy a “lot” of 20 or so bikes at the next police auction... give him another one.


7 posted on 07/15/2014 4:44:38 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Born to Conserve
Where I’m from, kids get their bicycles stolen, and they wind up down in this guy’s inner city. Swell.

That is certainly a reality to some degree, and most thefts are of the typical kind of bikes here are from within the city, while higher end theft occurs btwn suburbs, and from the city to there, yet the majority i have seen hardly have much of a market value, with tires that are often so worn i put rubber inside them and have a multiplicity of patches.

My policy is that if it is stolen then there is no help, and i ask if i suspect it, for what its worth, and they get a lecture about stealing, as well as the gospel of Christ.

Stolen cars also end up in the city and in the mechanics shop, but the solution is not to refuse to fix any. Get a simple engraver and place an phone # on the bottom bracket. That or attempts to cover it, which the kids here are not sophisticated enough to do attempt, would be much a real give away.

8 posted on 07/15/2014 4:52:01 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Disambiguator
The guy looks like he was a bit of a nutcase (check out the pics), but he knew his stuff.

i have been there but it lacks the specifics that would tell me which descriptions as seen here or below would tell if the microdrive sprocket would fit.

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9 posted on 07/15/2014 4:56:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Neidermeyer
If it’s expensive I’d forget about it and just buy a “lot” of 20 or so bikes at the next police auction... give him another one.

This guy works and it seems i can get a rear wheel for 20, if i knew it would fit. I do not have the space to store bikes.

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10 posted on 07/15/2014 5:00:54 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
You can buy those at Dan's Competition, the BMX online mail-order.

Alternatively you could just buy a new rim and spokes and lace it up, using the old hub. (If you know how to build wheels).

There is a good book "Building Bicycle Wheels" available from Amazon if you are interested.

11 posted on 07/15/2014 5:35:34 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: daniel1212
I just need some replacement Huffy bicycle parts, and somehow also have trouble finding them online. I find links to new bicycles, but no reliable sources for replacement parts.

Plus, I am NOT paying 456.99 for a simple 26" wheel! Some of the sites I have visited are plain bonkers.

12 posted on 07/15/2014 6:02:27 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Disambiguator

I dunno. I didn’t see any links to any Huffy or Schwinn parts, so no joy on this end.


13 posted on 07/15/2014 6:09:04 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: daniel1212

Sometimes bike shops have used parts laying around. You may find the entire assembly
at one for next to nothing.


14 posted on 07/15/2014 6:11:50 PM PDT by deport
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To: daniel1212

Thanks for the helpful link, mate. Hope to find more soon...


15 posted on 07/15/2014 6:11:57 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

You can get cheap 26” bikes at walmart.
Not sure how long they would last.


16 posted on 07/15/2014 6:16:24 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Thanks, but I already have a few to work with and only need spare parts to repair them.

Plus, there is no WalMart anywhere close to where I live.

Thanks for the thought, though.

17 posted on 07/15/2014 6:22:44 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: daniel1212

Well I’ve been out of the business for many years. I mistakenly thought you wanted to reuse the hub and wanted rim advice. You could take that option and just rebuild the wheel if you have a good truing stand. As for the hub, is it a cassette freehub with a 9t gear or is the 9t cog a freewheel in itself? Most all 20” single speeds were standard thread with a freewheel cog. Most cassettes are just a gear with a lock ring and a spacer. Almost all of either type are the same size unless they are French, English or Italian manufactured. My advice would be buy the right type of wheel/hub combo (Freewheel or Freehub) and it should fit. The next trick for most people would be figuring out how o remove the 9t gear, but I have a feeling you’ve done that already.


18 posted on 07/15/2014 6:34:18 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Jack Black

Been there, but Dans comp is way too expensive. i just need to know if a wheel like this works with a microdrive sprocket: http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/xlc-y-303-bmx-rear-wheel-20-x-1-75-freewheel-red-black

or this http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/wheel-master-rear-bicycle-wheel-20-x-1-75-36h-alloy-bolt-on-black-1

Seems like a hard question to answer and that you have to go by the images.


19 posted on 07/15/2014 6:34:32 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Utilizer
I find links to new bicycles, but no reliable sources for replacement parts. Plus, I am NOT paying 456.99 for a simple 26" wheel! Some of the sites I have visited are plain bonkers

Reliable sources for replacement parts, or finding ones that fit can be hard, while i think someone is making a hefty profit for a wheel that weighs just over 3lbs and costs 300.00

Meanwhile, you can but a cheap 20'' bike at Walmart for as low as 50 .00

20 posted on 07/15/2014 6:43:24 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
Thanks Daniel, but as I already mentioned to FReeper deport, I currently have a few bicycles already, I just need a good source for spare parts to repair them.

We also do not have a local WalMart here. Closest similar would be a Costco but it is about 75 miles away from here. Plus, a new wheel should not cost significantly more than the cost of the bicycle itself, I believe.

21 posted on 07/15/2014 6:56:23 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Woodman
I mistakenly thought you wanted to reuse the hub and wanted rim advice.

Sorry. the terminology is not precise. I do not want to rebuild the wheel with the spokes, but place the hub and microdrive 9th sprockett/cogset into a new wheel, but which must be the one with the larger center. .

As for the hub, is it a cassette freehub with a 9t gear or is the 9t cog a freewheel in itself?

All i know is that it is single speed, i took it apart, and it unscrews into 3 basic parts with the sprocket attached at one end, and a somewhat flexible 3'' cylindrical piece at the other, plus bearings in a cup and nuts. And that this hub is too large to fit into the other hub that looks like the wheel in post 10 , but it seems post 9 looks like the one it came out of. .

The microdrive i took out did not show the cogs this one does, but from the outside it looks like it.

My advice would be buy the right type of wheel/hub combo (Freewheel or Freehub) and it should fit.

But which descriptions are hard to find where i am mainly looking .

22 posted on 07/15/2014 7:07:00 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Utilizer

What Huffy parts and sizes do you need?


23 posted on 07/15/2014 7:08:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Mostly wheels, seats, pedal mechanisms, bearings, and cables for 26” frames. Others and a couple of different sizes once I manage to repair the most necessary ones as time permits.


24 posted on 07/15/2014 7:14:22 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: daniel1212

I did some research. You disassembled the driver. You need a cassette hub (basically a freehub without the cassette body) Size may not be common, but apparently Odyssey is the most common. I believe any BMX Cassette Hub should work, but not freewheeled. Sorry I can’t help more. It’s been a long time since I was in the industry. I am/was a factory trained mechanic in HS/College so I’m not just winging it. These days I only work on my own stuff, so I am not up to date on all the newer tweaks. The driver concept is new to me, but it is really just a component freehub.


25 posted on 07/15/2014 7:16:53 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: daniel1212

oh, and BTW the wheel in you original post will not work.


26 posted on 07/15/2014 7:18:45 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: daniel1212

The wheel from Ebay would most likely work, but I can’t yell if that is a fixed gear setup or a cassette and driver from the picture. The good news is it looks like it has a 9 or 10 tooth cog, so maybe you could just bolt it on.


27 posted on 07/15/2014 7:23:28 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Woodman
I did some research.

thanks!

You disassembled the driver. You need a cassette hub (basically a freehub without the cassette body)

But i thought i had the old "hub" ( the core of a wheel; contains bearings) or it seems more specifically, the freehub (see top), and only need the right wheel to put it in.

28 posted on 07/15/2014 8:08:49 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Woodman
The wheel from Ebay would most likely work, but I can’t yell if that is a fixed gear setup or a cassette and driver from the picture. The good news is it looks like it has a 9 or 10 tooth cog, so maybe you could just bolt it on.

Thanks, but which on do yo mean> The one in post 9 is from Niagara cycle.

I have tried to contact them, but they were not answering, though parts came after a week.

29 posted on 07/15/2014 8:14:57 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Utilizer
Mostly wheels, seats, pedal mechanisms, bearings, and cables for 26” frames

I would search Niagara cycle, as they seem to be about the cheapest, though slow, and good customer support does seem to be lacking.

See 26'' tires and choose size, then sort by price: low to high, and you may see such as this one for under 10.00. S+H is usualy 5.00. And no, i do not work for them.

30 posted on 07/15/2014 9:14:43 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

The link I was talking about is this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapient-Rear-Wheel-12-BMX-Bike-Tire-12mm-Axle-/141193292191?pt=US_Tires&hash=item20dfc6a99f it the ebay auction from your article at the top of the thread.


31 posted on 07/16/2014 2:18:17 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: daniel1212

The one in 9 looks like a freewheel hub to me an that wouldn’t work. You need one that has the description of a cassette hub. The only issue may be size, but from what I read most are the same size.


32 posted on 07/16/2014 2:23:15 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: Woodman
I choose that image as it looks like the kind of wheel that i have that was run over by the car, and that i am looking to take the hub and sprocket/cogset out of and place it into a new wheel (and thus save about 20.00), but finding that wheel is what is so difficult.

Note that they usually sell these wheels without the sprocket so that it is hard to tell by the pics whether the center is large enough for the cassette hub.

However, the micro-drive wheels have a larger center as seen in the the one in #9 , and looks like this wheel which i came across (if 18'') that says it is a micro-drive, also see here .

I sent an email to Niagara Cycle about this, lets see if they can answer it, and thanks for looking into this and advice.

33 posted on 07/16/2014 5:57:28 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Woodman

Ended up buying a cheap whole complete wheel, for 28 total. http://www.motiontrendz.com/parts/20-mike-spinner-pro-rear-rim.html


34 posted on 07/16/2014 5:00:11 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

That was probably your best bet. Sorry I couldn’t be more help. Like I said in the beginning I would have just bought a rim and rebuilt it. The cycling world can be a real PIA with all of the different systems and sizes.


35 posted on 07/16/2014 5:30:53 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Woodman
The cycling world can be a real PIA with all of the different systems and sizes.

But unlike PCs , finding compatibility is not easy. Thanks again.

36 posted on 07/16/2014 7:50:12 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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