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Company limits bathroom breaks to 6 minutes a day [and gives bonuses to workers who never use it]
CNN ^ | July 15, 2014 | Patrick M. Sheridan

Posted on 07/16/2014 8:53:33 AM PDT by grundle

Spend more than 6 minutes a day in the bathroom at Chicago's WaterSaver Faucet company and you'll face disciplinary measures.

That's what a union contends the manufacturer is pulling: timing bathroom breaks and warning employees when they can't beat the clock.

The union, Teamsters local 743, filed a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board claiming WaterSaver unfairly disciplined 19 workers in June for "excessive use" of washrooms.

The company's human resources department described "excessive use of the bathroom as... 60 minutes or more over the last 10 working days," according to the affidavit. Do the math and it works out to 6 minutes a day.

The controversy goes back to last winter when WaterSaver installed swipe card systems on bathrooms located off the factory floor.

WaterSaver has adopted a rewards system where workers can earn a gift card of up to $20 each month ($1 a day) if they don't use the bathroom at all during work time.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


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We here at Free Republic love to post articles that show unions doing stupid things, but in this case, the union is doing the right thing.
1 posted on 07/16/2014 8:53:33 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

I normally class unions below even the Obamadork in idiocy and corruption, but this time, go union, go.


2 posted on 07/16/2014 8:54:36 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: grundle

This is a form of age discrimination!


3 posted on 07/16/2014 8:55:37 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: grundle
Spend more than 6 minutes a day in the bathroom at Chicago's WaterSaver Faucet company and you'll face disciplinary measures..

In unrelated news, they're introducing chili and burritos in their company lunchroom.

4 posted on 07/16/2014 8:55:45 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Da Coyote

I would just bring a roll of toilet paper with me and use it to full advantage on the supervisors desk when the need arose...: )


5 posted on 07/16/2014 8:55:48 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: grundle
Oh yeah! I've worked with those tiny bladders. It's all BS in the bathroom texting their boyfriends or whatever.
6 posted on 07/16/2014 8:56:00 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: grundle

They should get with the program and issue Depends to employees - I use ‘em and don’t have to leave my desk all day....


7 posted on 07/16/2014 8:57:11 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: grundle
Why would I need a union to tell the employer to pound sand?

/johnny

8 posted on 07/16/2014 8:57:16 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: grundle

They get breaks already by law. Go then. Geez


9 posted on 07/16/2014 9:00:34 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: grundle

That is crazy! What if you are sick? Or maybe have an illness that sometimes flares up causing more bathroom time? My husband has Crohn’s disease and 6 minutes would not do for him on several days.

Heck by the time you unzip your pants, pee, wash and dry your hands, it’s been probably 90 sec. Just to pee!

I’m with the union here & more power to them for sticking up for these employees.


10 posted on 07/16/2014 9:02:23 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: grundle

Bow to your corporate overlords!


11 posted on 07/16/2014 9:03:01 AM PDT by gdani (Every day, your Govt surveils you more than the day before)
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To: grundle

But, that is the only time i get to be AWAY from the stress of the job!


12 posted on 07/16/2014 9:05:37 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: grundle

I take a diuretic. Will Obama write an Executive Order giving me dispensation?


13 posted on 07/16/2014 9:06:29 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Da Coyote
I'll bet the union already has 10 minute breaks every two hours.

According to the article, the company is allowing up to six minutes bathroom time outside of breaktimes.

Misleading headline as usual for the media.

14 posted on 07/16/2014 9:07:12 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Psalm 73

They’re teamsters. Can’t their truck driving union counterparts show them the big mouth 7-Up bottle trick? ;-)


15 posted on 07/16/2014 9:07:14 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (In Hoc Signo Vinces)
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To: grundle
Management: "Well, that worked! Nobody is using the restrooms... but why are all the plants dead?"
16 posted on 07/16/2014 9:09:42 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: grundle
I can almost see *Catbert*, evil HR director from Dilbert cartoons, standing at the restrooms with a stop watch :)
17 posted on 07/16/2014 9:09:57 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: grundle
I dunno about this one. In reading the article, the company sounds like a real slave driving shop. However, if I'm an employer, I'm paying my people to work, not sit in the can, texting.

I worked in a Retail Place that had a problem like this, but it was pre-cell phone. I was on a crew of three stocking shelves; we were pretty autonomous. One guy on the shift would clock in at 6am, then grab a newspaper and camp out in the bathroom for half an hour or 45 min while the other two of us worked.

Other guy and I complained a bunch to managment. Finally, the manager held the guy's time card, made him pick it up in order to punch in and out. Just the fact that someone was paying attention (much like the company in this story) cleared the problem up, pretty quickly.

18 posted on 07/16/2014 9:11:19 AM PDT by wbill
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To: grundle; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

Block cellphone activity (through shielding) and you’d cut down on “slack time” in bathrooms.

PS never buy a used cellphone.


19 posted on 07/16/2014 9:12:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: grundle

The owners are a caricature of bad management. These people are the reasons Unions are formed. Stupid.

Good management makes Unions unnecessarily. If ownership insists on an adversarial relationship then they get what they ask for.


20 posted on 07/16/2014 9:13:14 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: grundle

If true the company has nobody to blame but itself for its labour troubles. I’ll hold off on further comment until all the facts are in; I suspect there’s more to the story; bear in mind that these are allegations that have not been tested in a hearing.


21 posted on 07/16/2014 9:13:23 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: grundle

This rule discriminates against homosexuals!


22 posted on 07/16/2014 9:14:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: grundle

Maybe Water Saver is trying to save water.

Actually, this is really stupid. If they want to limit bathroom breaks, I guess they have the right; but 6 minutes a day is absurd.


23 posted on 07/16/2014 9:25:49 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

And bad for woman too since we need more time.


24 posted on 07/16/2014 9:29:49 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: grundle

One place I worked years ago had magazine racks in the stalls - a man could get some reading done.


25 posted on 07/16/2014 9:36:03 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: defconw

Oh yeah! I’ve worked with those tiny bladders. It’s all BS in the bathroom texting their boyfriends or whatever...Hell, I’ve found a co-worker who was to be in a meeting who said he needed the bathroom. A half hour later when he was supposed to deliver a presentation of what we had accomplished for the quarter, I found him sleeping in the stall with his pants still up. He didn’t last long after waking up. Bathroom breaks are just a way to screw around (unless when you wash your hands you sing ‘Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star three times to be sure you are adequately cleaned).


26 posted on 07/16/2014 9:36:06 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Block cellphone activity (through shielding) and you’d cut down on “slack time” in bathrooms.

I found ripping a loud one while someone is on the phone in the bathroom, tends to make them stop calling there.

27 posted on 07/16/2014 9:39:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wbill

One guy on the shift would clock in at 6am, then grab a newspaper and camp out in the bathroom for half an hour or 45 min while the other two of us worked.....There is a place right here in my town (a foundry) where a large percentage of the workers get to work to get to the toilet in the AM. They punch in, go to the shiiiter and sit there. When asked why they didn’t go at home before punching in, they said “I don’t want to use MY water!”


28 posted on 07/16/2014 9:44:01 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: grundle

Why does this quote from World Cup soccer come to mind...?

“I thought I had slipped, I thought I wouldn’t make it, but I tore my anus on that move, the pain ... it was terrible.”


29 posted on 07/16/2014 9:47:06 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: grundle

How about toilet seats with a pressure sensitive switch? After six minutes a mild electric shock is administered. 2 minutes later, a stronger shock is delivered and on up from there.

Seriously though, I have wondered about some of my coworkers taking mini-vacations in the stalls.


30 posted on 07/16/2014 9:47:19 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: grundle

As usual, there is a lot more than the superficial story line here. Reading the article, the one hour per week average potty time for the problem employees is above and beyond break times, etcetera. This time is paid time that the employees are supposed to be on the floor producing money for the company. That is, after all, why they have the afore-mentioned job.
If health situations prevent following the company policy on bathroom use, maybe that’s the wrong job for that employee.


31 posted on 07/16/2014 9:49:30 AM PDT by Conservative_caterer (Watching the USA devolve one day at a time...)
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To: grundle
"excessive use of the bathroom as... 60 minutes or more over the last 10 working days,"

I did this in one day all the time. One of the several medically related reasons (IBS) I couldn't continue working.

32 posted on 07/16/2014 9:49:41 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: poobear
They get breaks already by law. Go then. Geez

What law gives them that?

33 posted on 07/16/2014 9:49:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dainbramaged

Oregon’s minimum break rules are defined by law. Two ten minute breaks and at least a 20 minute lunch.


34 posted on 07/16/2014 9:49:47 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Conservative_caterer

Having dealt with Teamsters in the past, I can say with some certainty that a minority of them probably abused their bathroom privileges at this place, and the company had to develop a restrictive rule that applies to everyone because the abusers can’t be fired.


35 posted on 07/16/2014 9:53:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: grundle
I agree. And furthermore, where I work, people who smoke are not taken to task for taking four or five 20 minute breaks per day to feed their habit. Yet if I leave my desk for one to two hours per day, I would be questioned on why.

In fact, my company has even erected little plexiglas bus stop type structures so the smokers can indulge during inclement weather.

It seems like very odd behavior from a Fortune 100 company that also spends lots of dough to make sure employees eat right and exercise to lower health care costs. Makes me shake my head.

36 posted on 07/16/2014 9:55:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: grundle
WaterSaver has adopted a rewards system where workers can earn a gift card of up to $20 each month ($1 a day) if they don't use the bathroom at all during work time.

Oh, and don't drink that. It's not lemonade...

37 posted on 07/16/2014 9:56:45 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Safetgiver

YEP!


38 posted on 07/16/2014 10:01:41 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: dfwgator
I found ripping a loud one while someone is on the phone in the bathroom, tends to make them stop calling there.

Once had a woman in the stall next to me, loudly yakking away on her phone, actually say, "hang on just a second, I need to switch hands, so I can wipe." That's when you know you've heard EVERYTHING! Serious TMI!!

39 posted on 07/16/2014 10:07:21 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
PONG!


40 posted on 07/16/2014 10:13:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: grundle
A policy otherwise known as:


41 posted on 07/16/2014 10:15:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Hoffer Rand
Once had a woman in the stall next to me, loudly yakking away on her phone, actually say, "hang on just a second, I need to switch hands, so I can wipe."

I repeat, DON'T BUY A USED CELLPHONE!

43 posted on 07/16/2014 10:19:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: aimhigh

Coincidentally, it was a shipyard in the Portland area, can’t remember the name since it was 35 years ago. Two week assignment from the naval architect firm in Seattle that was my employer.


44 posted on 07/16/2014 10:22:56 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: wbill
One guy on the shift would clock in at 6am, then grab a newspaper and camp out in the bathroom for half an hour or 45 min while the other two of us worked.

"Got to take care of mah biologicals."

45 posted on 07/16/2014 10:23:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If they want to limit bathroom breaks, I guess they have the right; but 6 minutes a day is absurd.

...not if it’s in addition to the scheduled breaks...


46 posted on 07/16/2014 10:23:57 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: grundle

This is the new desk chairs. The double holes for the conference room.

47 posted on 07/16/2014 10:24:51 AM PDT by bgill
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To: sonofagun

“I’ll bet the union already has 10 minute breaks every two hours. According to the article, the company is allowing up to six minutes bathroom time outside of breaktimes.”

There ya go. That is the truth of this matter. The company is protesting additional, unsanctioned, breaks, and the unions wants to make it sound like the employees get no breaks at all.


48 posted on 07/16/2014 10:46:21 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: grundle

That’s a crappy way to treat employees.


49 posted on 07/16/2014 11:03:02 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: grundle

Does the six minutes include travel time from work station to bathroom and back?


50 posted on 07/16/2014 11:05:54 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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