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Could being overweight benefit our health?
Medical News Today ^ | July 17, 2014 | Honor Whiteman

Posted on 07/17/2014 3:51:21 AM PDT by Innovative

Two new studies suggest that being overweight may actually protect against death from cardiovascular causes.

For the first study, led by Dr. Abhishek Sharma, a cardiology fellow at the State University of New York Downstate Medical Center in Brooklyn, NY, researchers conducted a meta-analysis of 36 studies that looked at the outcomes of patients with coronary artery disease (CAD) who underwent coronary revascularization procedures, including percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI) and coronary artery bypass graft (CABG).

they found that patients with the lowest cardiovascular mortality risk were those who were overweight - a BMI of 25-30 kg/m2. In addition, patients who were obese (a BMI of 30-35 kg/m2) had a 27% lower risk of all-cause mortality than those with a normal BMI (20-25 kg/m2), while those who were severely obese (a BMI over 35 kg/m2) had a 22% lower risk of all-cause mortality.

The researchers found that overall, higher BMI was associated with lower mortality. Those with a higher lean body mass - the mass of the body minus fat - had a 29% lower risk of mortality. In addition, the team found that low body fat was only associated with lower mortality if no adjustment was made for lean body mass, which suggests that "body composition plays a critical role in the obesity paradox," according to Dr. Lavie.

(Excerpt) Read more at medicalnewstoday.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: cardiovascular; obesity; overweight
Good luck figuring it out!

Being too overweight must be bad for you, but maybe they are being excessive, when they define what people should weigh.

I think in health, as in most things, moderation and the middle road is the safest.

1 posted on 07/17/2014 3:51:21 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

It is very difficult to say what this study actually found from this excerpt.

A confounder of studies such as this is that people who are terminally ill often lose a lot of weight before they die. So, even though obesity may not be very healthy, a study could show that obese or overweight people have a better prognosis—even though if compared with healthy, non-terminal people, they may actually be pretty bad off.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 3:58:33 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

people that smoke cigarettes have suppressed appetite, meth addicts and cocaine addicts don’t eat either, all can be real thin, Karen Carpenter starved herself to death, so ye, being too thin can be deadly

But fat people have multiple health issues too.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 4:18:24 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Innovative

I don’t care what the study says, when you are 100 - 200 pounds overweight that can’t be healthy for you. If you are 30 pounds overweight, well that’s probably not so bad. It’s all in degrees. I don’t need scientist to tell me this, it’s common sense....


4 posted on 07/17/2014 4:26:00 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

What about having triple bypass and being 10 - 12 lbs. overweight?

Hmmmmmm????????


5 posted on 07/17/2014 4:31:26 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Arlis
"What about having triple bypass and being 10 - 12 lbs. overweight?"

Obviously not being fat is not the sole determining factor of whether you are healthy or not. But if you are 100 pounds overweight, I can pretty much guarantee you that you have health problems. So the point I was trying to make is to contradict the article and say yes being obese is unhealthy. There's no other way to slice it....
6 posted on 07/17/2014 4:40:50 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Arlis
"Dr. Sharma says that patients who are overweight are more likely to be prescribed medications that protect cardiovascular health - such as beta blockers and statins - which may explain the more favorable cardiovascular outcomes among this population."

I think what this may say about being obese is that you know you have health problems and are therefore more likely to go get treated for it. The takeaway from this should be that even though you exercise and are healthy you should still being getting annual checkups and have your health monitored.
7 posted on 07/17/2014 4:47:10 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Key to any survey is the group of people selected for the study. In this study, only people who had two types of cardiac surgery are selected. So you have folks who were well screened & approved by a physician as healthy enough for surgery. Given the general bias against overweight folks, I am assuming that this sub-set was more extensively screened.... so the starting population was biased. No wonder that the overweight folks had a better survival rate.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 4:54:43 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: Innovative

I’ve always believed having a little extra padding isn’t a bad thing. Helps you survive long-term sicknesses and shrapnel better than those that are rail-thin.


9 posted on 07/17/2014 4:58:34 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I am in pretty good shape for almost 70, still run, fast walk over 4 miles, lift weights - but am about 10 lbs. over my ideal weight.

No one thinks I’m obese, but I was wondering what amount of “overweight” qualified in the author’s thinking........


10 posted on 07/17/2014 5:03:55 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: Innovative

From the 1973 movie “Sleeper”:

Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called “wheat germ, organic honey and tiger’s milk.”

Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.

Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or... hot fudge?

Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy... precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.

Dr. Melik: Incredible.

Or, as Algore might say, “The science is settled.”


11 posted on 07/17/2014 5:08:03 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Innovative

Can’t wait till Limbaugh finds this and tells us all it’s okay to be fat. He’ll go on to tell us how he knew this all along. And, exercising is a waste of time.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 5:09:36 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Innovative

The BMI is the biggest hoax. My Ideal weight based on my body type is 200 lbs. The BMI chart says I should weigh 185. If I dropped 15 lbs, I would look like a stick insect.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 5:13:04 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Innovative

In the case of women, it is better for bone health to be carrying around a little weight (more than 130 lbs. or so).

Women who are naturally slender are advised to do weight bearing exercise or wear a weight vest when they exercise to maintain bone density.

People can get too obsessed about weight, when other lifestyle factors are more important.


14 posted on 07/17/2014 5:14:48 AM PDT by randita ("Is a nation without borders a nation?"...Noonan)
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To: Arlis
I am in pretty good shape for almost 70, still run, fast walk over 4 miles, lift weights - but am about 10 lbs. over my ideal weight. No one thinks I’m obese, but I was wondering what amount of “overweight” qualified in the author’s thinking........

First of all, who determined your "ideal" weight? Second, look at it as a ratio. If you are ten pounds over but your "ideal" weight is ten pounds well then you're double. If your "ideal" weight is 200 then your only 5% over. I would suggest that being within 5-8% of what you consider your "ideal" weight would be harmless. Once you hit the 20% then you're asking for trouble. You also have to consider body type. Mesomorphs tend to carry more fat. Ectomorphs have a hard time gaining weight (like me when I was young).

Start here for body types.

15 posted on 07/17/2014 5:14:53 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Hyman Roth

only if you had no muscle.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 5:47:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Hyman Roth
"The BMI is the biggest hoax."

Roger that - expecially for those with a large muscle mass. And this could be skewing these numbers. I am a gym nut who works out daily and have a large muscle mass and body fat at 10%. Most people consider me "ripped". (Not bad for a 56 year old) Yet, according to my BMI I am grossly overwieght, bordering on "obese".

17 posted on 07/17/2014 5:52:18 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Innovative
I was thin when I needed to be thin, at birth, and now that I am aarp material I find I am fat.

Could it be that older thin people are depressed and the fat ones are happy?

I like cookies.

18 posted on 07/17/2014 5:53:44 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

lol.


19 posted on 07/17/2014 5:54:50 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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To: Arlis
"No one thinks I’m obese, but I was wondering what amount of “overweight” qualified in the author’s thinking........"

They are going by BMI in this study which is another problem with the study. Basically BMI does a straight calculation of your height and weight. So if you are x height and y weight that equals this amount of BMI. The government has a scale of what they think the ranges of BMI are underweight/normal/overweight/obese. The problem with this measurement is it does not take into account whether your weight is fat weight or muscle weight. You can be close to your ideal BMI and have a lot of fat weight because you never work out and you can be muscular and considered obese.

For instance, I'm sure that a 250 pound linebacker who has abs any of us would die for is considered obese by the BMI scale the government uses. A better way to measure people is not by BMI, but by your body fat. In other words, the ratio you have of fat weight to muscle weight. We all need some fat weight. The best way to measure this is getting into water and they are able to measure the water displacement. Other ways to do it is an instrument they have at the doctors office to pinch your arm and also to measure your neck in relation to your waistline.
20 posted on 07/17/2014 6:16:18 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Hyman Roth
The BMI is the biggest hoax. My Ideal weight based on my body type is 200 lbs. The BMI chart says I should weigh 185. If I dropped 15 lbs, I would look like a stick insect.

My son is very muscular and is big in the torso and shoulders and arms. Bumping into him is like running into a brick wall. He's very solid and does triathlons.

According to those ridiculous charts, he's borderline obese and I daresay, he's more fit than just about anyone else I know.

I also read that most NFL pro football players would be considered obese by those charts.

Something's wrong with that picture.

21 posted on 07/17/2014 6:29:08 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
The best way to measure this is getting into water and they are able to measure the water displacement.

I still sink and I certainly weigh more than I did as a teen.

I guess I'm still OK then.

22 posted on 07/17/2014 6:31:39 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I have been getting body mass measured in a Bod Pod at our gym this past year.
.much easier and cheaper and about as reliable as water displacement method.


23 posted on 07/17/2014 6:53:54 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: Innovative

This just tells me medical profession is still a bunch of yokels if they used BMI as their measure


24 posted on 07/17/2014 6:55:25 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: Innovative

I’m trying to get back to my original weight...8 pounds, 6 ounces.


25 posted on 07/17/2014 2:46:30 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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