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Meet the Millennials (Reason-Rupe poll)
Reason ^ | 7-10-14 | Emily Ekins

Posted on 07/17/2014 7:31:50 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

American millennials, ages 18-29, are one of the largest, most diverse cohorts in the nation’s history.

Fifty-six percent self-identify as Caucasian, 19 percent as Hispanic, 15 percent as African-American or black, six percent as Asian, and four percent as another race. In contrast, 73 percent of their parents’ generation, the Baby Boomers, are white, 10 percent are Hispanic, 11 percent are black, and four percent are Asian.

Millennials are also more likely to be members of families who have more recently come to the United States. The Pew Research Center reports that 14 percent of millennials were born outside of the United States and 11 percent have at least one immigrant parent. In contrast, only five percent of the Baby Boom generation had at least one parent who was foreign-born. Millennial nativity is actually most similar to the generation born before and during World War II, many of whose parents came to the U.S. during the immigration wave of the late 1800s.

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: feds; millenials; nannystate; poll

1 posted on 07/17/2014 7:31:50 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

Not exactly the Minority Tsunami the media keeps telling us is coming.


2 posted on 07/17/2014 7:37:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TurboZamboni

I’ve been talking to some of these kids over on reddit, and let me tell you, a more helpless, aimless bunch you’ll never see. Employers seem to have to lure them to work, and check on them constantly, and the kids spend half their time griping about how little they are paid and the other half snarling about people who only care about money. Gaming and weed are the favored pastimes, and laziness and intellectual arrogance are the defining character traits. Who knows, maybe all 20-somethings are like this and I just don’t remember, but it’s not very appealing.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 7:42:30 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

All 20 somethings are not like this, and the 20 somethings of the past were not all like this either.

But in the past there have been some slackers. That’s nothing new.

Maybe we have bigger percentages of slackers nowadays. Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 7:51:54 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I’m 34 and bust my ass, oftentimes working over 60 hours a week as a senior IT engineer. Meanwhile, a 28 year old junior admin under me is a clock watcher who can seldom be found in his cube.

When he DOES work, he’s a brilliant programmer and admin, but keeping him seated and on task is an exercise in futilty. It’s amazing how a difference of 6 years can make such a world of difference.


5 posted on 07/17/2014 8:00:47 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I’m involved in workforce development and we have a thriving business in teaching “soft skills” to millenials. All of the problems you report and endemic, and then some. It’s hard to get them to show up for work; concentrate when they are on the job and get along with their co-workers.

For some, the clue light comes on when they get fired, but many are completely oblivious. Why should they care? Statistically, more millenials than ever are living at home; they can remain on their parents’ health plan until 26 and they’ll take any bennie the government sends their way.

If I’m not mistaken, one of the findings from the Reason poll is that millenials acknowledge that government is completely broken, but they want more of it.

In the classic words of the maitre’ d from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off,” “I weep for the future.” And Ferris was a go-getter compared to the current crop of slackers; at least he knew how to borrow a classic car and have fun while ditching school—and avoid getting caught.


6 posted on 07/17/2014 8:08:42 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: TurboZamboni

Reason Magazine is a libertarian publication with an agenda.

Here is one of their findings on the most left wing voting generation in our history.

“”A socially liberal, fiscally conservative political candidate could succeed with millennials. 53 percent say they would support a candidate who was both socially liberal and fiscally conservative. In fact, liberal millennials (60 percent) are significantly more supportive of such a candidate than conservatives (43 percent). Social issues, more than economics, tend to define their political labels and shape their political judgments.””


7 posted on 07/17/2014 8:30:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Ferris was also creative, reasoned well and had a hot girlfriend.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 8:32:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: ansel12

A big part of that pattern is that they’ve Bern raised/indictrinated to believe that social issues are more important than economic ones.

Thats why it’s hard for Conservatives to find any sort of common cause with them. Unless you come to the discussion supporting gay marriage, etc they arent even willing to listen to you on anything else.

And their parents are continuing to enable it by denying them the economic slap in the face they really need. They’ll eventually come around, but by then it will be too late. But we’ll at least have the guilty pleasure of seeing them freak out when they learn, quickly and brutally, that choices have conseqences...


9 posted on 07/17/2014 8:40:25 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: A_perfect_lady

I guess it depends on what you experience. I have three children that are in this generation. Ages, 18, 23 and 25. All are college graduates, the 18 y/o is in third year, two are married (one grand child - after being married), third to be married in January. All working full time since high school (homeschooled from day one) all through college, and continue to do so with exception the one with the child (husband is active duty nuc sub officer in training). All involved in politics, one (along with her husband) co-chaired Romney’s local campaign in ‘08 and ‘12 (not my candidate, but still proud of them) the other a Ron Paul supporter. The 18 y/o is all about free market, freedom and keep the govt the hell out of our lives. Every generation has it’s strong and weak. Yes, this generation has it’s share of potheads, whiners and complainers...society and social institutions has a lot to do with it, but I lay the blame (or praise) squarely at the feet of the parents. Those that are involved, engaged and instill faith, tough love, discipline, patriotism and the knowledge that your responsible for your own damn successes and failures should (not always, of course) be pleased with the results. Have they made all the choices that mom and dad would want them to? Of course not, nor should we expect them to, but they understand decisions have consequences and there’s no such thing as a free lunch.


10 posted on 07/17/2014 8:45:15 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: tanknetter

Along those lines, something that I have noticed among my young conservative friends which troubles me greatly, is that they are only conservative on the topics that they have decided to be conservative on.

In other words, they don’t seem to be “genetically” conservative, or “naturally” conservative, which I think is largely a symptom of social liberalism.

A true conservative’s first instinct is to have a conservative take on even topics that he has not thought about, but that isn’t the case with the younger conservatives, when trying to explain how gay marriage will destroy marriage, you have to start at square one and educate them in history and culture, and the family as foundation, etc, etc, it is exhausting and all to win a single convert.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 9:00:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
I'm still trying to figure out why top-down Federal control of everything is considered a good thing by some conservatives.

Why not leave the most divisive “social issues” up to individual states?

12 posted on 07/17/2014 9:05:43 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

Divisive “social issues”?

At least I know that I am talking to a liberal.

You think abortion and marriage and the homosexual agenda, and American culture and traditional American conservatism and Christian roots are just divisive stuff?

Those issues have to be fought at all levels of government, never support a candidate who is anti-conservative whether it is for city government, or county, or state, or federal.

Never support liberals.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 9:13:27 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: TurboZamboni

Millenials are socially ill.

Just call them “illenials”.


14 posted on 07/17/2014 9:18:02 AM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: ansel12

It is because they don’t have or understand core values or principles. They seem to be devoid of a principle that they make judgement or decisions on. The response to these questions indicates... they only learned how to take the test and only know the answers to specific questions. They can’t reason by extension or logic. They are confused, they want their cake and to eat it too indicating they are spoiled utopians who have never had to make hard choices involving exclusion of one thing in favor of another.

They are profoundly confused and without direction.

The Reason-Rupe report finds this skepticism of government has millennials favoring general reductions to government spending and regulations:

73 percent of millennials favor allowing private accounts for Social Security; 51 percent favor private accounts even it means cutting Social Security benefits for current and future retirees because 53 percent of millennials say Social Security is unlikely to exist when they retire
64 percent of millennials say cutting government spending by 5 percent would help the economy
59 percent say cutting taxes would help the economy
57 percent prefer a smaller government providing fewer services with low taxes, while 41 percent prefer a larger government providing more services with high taxes
57 percent want a society where wealth is distributed according to achievement
55 percent say reducing regulations would help the economy
53 percent say reducing the size of government would help the economy
74 percent of millennials say government has a responsibility to guarantee every citizen has a place to sleep and enough to eat
However, millennials also support more government action and higher spending in a number of key areas:

71 percent favor raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour
69 percent say it is government’s responsibility to guarantee everyone access to health care and 51 percent have a favorable view of the Affordable Care Act
68 percent say government should ensure everyone makes a living wage
66 percent say raising taxes on the wealthy would help the economy
63 percent say spending more on job training would help the economy
58 percent say the government should spend more on assistance to the poor even it means higher taxes
57 percent favor spending more money on infrastructure
54 percent favor a larger government that provides more services, when taxes are not mentioned
54 percent want government to guarantee everyone a college education
Sixty-two percent of millennials describe themselves as socially liberal, while 27 percent say they are socially conservative. The gap is much narrower on economic issues, with 49 percent of millennials identifying themselves as economic liberals and 36 percent labeling themselves as economic conservatives.

Millennials’ social liberalism is mixed with strong opposition to many nanny state regulations:

72 percent of millennials say large sugary sodas and drinks should be allowed to be sold
67 percent of millennials favor legalizing same-sex marriage
61 percent say abortion should be legal in all or most cases
61 percent say people should be able to buy foods containing trans fats
60 percent want to allow e-cigarette use in public places
59 percent say the government should allow online gambling
57 percent say marijuana should be legal, although just 22 percent say cocaine should be legal
52 percent say either the government should not set a legal drinking age or that the legal drinking age should be lower than 21


15 posted on 07/17/2014 9:20:11 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: ansel12

I support none of those things, but again, why not leave them up to individual state’s legislatures?


16 posted on 07/17/2014 9:32:40 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

What does this have to with this thread, and why would a conservative want to find an excuse to support liberal candidates?

A city council candidate has a chance of someday being a Mayor and negotiating labor contracts, or a Governor, or a congressman, or a Senator or a presidential candidate.


17 posted on 07/17/2014 9:43:44 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: TurboZamboni

Of the total M population

36% would vote Rat
32% Independent
27% Pubbie

Hide your money.


18 posted on 07/17/2014 10:05:38 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: TurboZamboni

Which state should decide federal policy on abortion, and gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda, and other “social issues” at the federal level, in immigration, federal employment and benefits, the military, federal hospitals and medical facilities, and in foreign policy, etc?

Should we nominate Senators, Presidential candidates, and congressmen who were social liberals locally, to make those laws and decisions and policy at the federal level?


19 posted on 07/17/2014 10:09:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

States decide for states.

IE: California would decide for California.
Minnesota would decide for Minnesota.

“Don’t make a federal case out of it”.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 10:15:17 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Sequoyah101

IOW, they are uninformed.

I may not like their conclusion, but it sounds pretty accurate.

There’s plenty of hypocrisy to go around.


21 posted on 07/17/2014 10:17:49 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

What about what I posted?
Which state should decide federal policy on abortion, and gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda, and other “social issues” at the federal level, in immigration, federal employment and benefits, the military, federal hospitals and medical facilities, and in foreign policy, etc?


22 posted on 07/17/2014 10:19:06 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: TurboZamboni

I think you deflect accurate criticism and over simply the facts but that is my opinion and you are entitled to yours.

They are the result of a total non-critical thinking education and are intellectually lazy to the point that they will not take the effort to be better informed and make better decisions.


23 posted on 07/17/2014 10:40:34 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: ansel12

They shouldn’t be “at the federal level” to begin with.

The feds should have the borders, military, federal courts- that’s about it .

States can worry about their laws.


24 posted on 07/17/2014 11:24:57 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni
People can try and ignore them but the Millennials are twice the size as Gen X and the largest cohort in American history. By 2025 they will make up 50% of the work force.
25 posted on 07/17/2014 11:27:18 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: TurboZamboni
The feds should have the borders, military, federal courts- that’s about it .

Why do you keep ignoring my posts?
I keep asking you about that very topic, ""Which state should decide federal policy on abortion, and gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda, and other “social issues” at the federal level, in immigration, federal employment and benefits, the military, federal hospitals and medical facilities, and in foreign policy, etc?""

26 posted on 07/17/2014 11:27:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

90% of what the Feds do isn’t enumerated in the Constitution for them to be doing.
Amendment X: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”

Marriage and family law isn’t in there. (Nor alcohol or drug prohibition.)

If you like your all-powerful, all-knowing, one-size-fits all federal government, you can keep it.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 12:00:48 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

At this point you just seem to be pushing the left’s social agenda, since you refuse to support blocking it at any level, for instance gays and abortion in the military.

The feds have been making policy regarding military service and marriage since 1780, the Continental Congress of 1780,the Congresses of 1794, 1798, and 1802 probably all had a pretty good grasp of the constitution when they were passing federal law regarding marriage and the military.

You think the military and the feds don’t have medical concerns and hospitals, should they have abortions there?

What about homosexuals in the military, what about federal employment, what about marriage and immigration, or abortion and the gay agenda and foreign policy?

You keep inappropriately pretending that this thread was about federal control of everything, when you actually brought it up out of nowhere, and since then have been trying to steer the conversation to that, in an effort for you to express your social liberalism.

Why are you trying to promote social liberalism at the federal level?


28 posted on 07/17/2014 12:11:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ripnbang

Your kids sound great... I hope there’s more of that type than there seems to be.


29 posted on 07/17/2014 12:40:20 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: TurboZamboni

It bothers me that some conservatives on here abandon the idea of states’ rights the minute there’s a danger that some state will go in a direction they don’t like.


30 posted on 07/17/2014 12:44:20 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Who has done that?

It bothers me that some here only push support for the left’s social positions, and one way they do that, is refuse to tell us that they support conservatism at all levels of government, including the areas that the feds have jurisdiction over.


31 posted on 07/17/2014 12:52:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

If two different conservative views clash, I guess you have to decide which one matters more to you. If you support states’ rights, you have to accept that some states will go in a direction you don’t like. If you insist that all states be run to your liking, you’ll need the power of the federal government to enforce it. So you have to make a choice. Do you believe in freedom, or do you believe in authoritarianism?


32 posted on 07/17/2014 12:58:08 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Which state should decide federal policy on abortion, and gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda, and other “social issues” at the federal level, in immigration, federal employment and benefits, the military, federal hospitals and medical facilities, and in foreign policy, etc?


33 posted on 07/17/2014 1:06:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Maybe we need Sunday ‘blue laws’ in ALL states- no buying alcohol (or shopping for cars) on Sundays.
And have it enforced by the FBI and ATF.(since the feds have juristictional hierarchy everywhere)

Why even have state laws like capital punishment? One federal law could cover every state.


34 posted on 07/17/2014 1:44:40 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: ansel12
Which state should decide federal law...

None of them. Those issues are not for the federal government to decide. Let federal employees live by the laws of the state they live in.

35 posted on 07/17/2014 3:02:53 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
Those issues are not for the federal government to decide.

Seriously, you don't know about the military and federal employees and immigration?

36 posted on 07/17/2014 5:35:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

People learn. People change,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foj7Fs-qliQ


37 posted on 07/17/2014 5:53:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: ansel12

The military has the UCMJ to live by. Federal employees and immigrants are subject to the laws in whatever state they live in. They drive the speed limits in their states, right? There’s not a federal speed limit just for government employees.


38 posted on 07/17/2014 10:23:35 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Don’t be silly, we are talking about marriage and families, and also immigration and foreign policy and abortion, and federal medical care.

Pretending that a Navy SEAL is only married sometimes and not other times doesn’t work, besides why do you want abortion and gay marriage and the gay agenda at the federal level anyway? Claiming that you only want it in some states isn’t much of a fig leaf.

Read post 28.


39 posted on 07/17/2014 10:33:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Actually, yes, you could say “your marriage is only legal in this state.” People would adjust. You’re either for states’ or you are not, and you’re a fool to be against them since having federal laws on these things is working against you. Now you can keep yapping at me like a small dog if you want to but I’ve said what I have to say and I don’t feel like saying it 6 more times because you want my attention.


40 posted on 07/18/2014 9:32:28 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Vision Thing
Millenials are socially ill, however the Baby Boomers are the bona fide virus.
41 posted on 07/18/2014 9:47:25 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Actually, yes, you could say “your marriage is only legal in this state.

The federal government cannot treat it's married military and civilian personnel as married only during their housing in some states, nor does that address the rest of what you keep avoiding while fighting for gay rights and abortion evidently, why do you want abortion and gay marriage and the gay agenda at the federal level anyway?

Which state should decide federal policy on abortion, and gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda, and other “social issues” at the federal level, in immigration, federal employment and benefits, the military, federal hospitals and medical facilities, and in foreign policy, etc?

42 posted on 07/18/2014 10:27:39 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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