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Virginity Pledges (Still) Donít Work, Unless Youíre Really Religious
NYMag ^ | Jesse Singal

Posted on 07/17/2014 9:16:29 AM PDT by Morgana

Virginity pledges, alongside abstinence-focused sex ed in general, are a favorite punching bag of those who favor comprehensive sex ed. In addition to being unrealistic, say their detractors, abstinence pledges promote an "all or nothing" approach to sex that may well lead to unhealthier behaviors. A new study in the Journal of Child and Family Studies bolsters these critiques by taking a nuanced look at how people with different levels of religious commitment react to purity pledges.

The researchers had 1,380 students at a "large, public Southeastern state univeristy" fill out a survey about their behavior. More than a quarter of them had signed pledges to not have sexual intercourse until they were married,which is about in line with national statistics among young people.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education
KEYWORDS: academicbias; antiabstinence; culturewar; moralabsolutes; prolife; sexualizingchildren; virginitypledges
I actually agree with this article. Which is why it's a good idea to teach your kids to be "very religious" from the time they are "very young".

Also try to avoid electing Presidents who say "Oral sex is not sex" if at all possible.

1 posted on 07/17/2014 9:16:29 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

But pretty much 100% of gays are practicing risky sex, yet THAT behavior is ENCOURAGED by society. Do I detect a double-standard here?


2 posted on 07/17/2014 9:21:15 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Morgana

I think “virginity pledges” just make you a target for the promiscuous a$$holes out there who want a challenge. Why announce it as some kind of badge of honor?

Just quietly live a godly life, and what is seen in secret will be rewarded openly in good time.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 9:22:29 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Liberalism worships the unholy trinity of Abortion, Sodomy, and Socialism.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 9:23:16 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Morgana

Academia, the medical profession, media, the DNC, Planned Parenthood, Girl Scouts USA, et al are TRYING to raise girls up to be sexually active and experimental.

It isn’t just the “peer pressure” to “give it up”, it’s the “establishment”.


5 posted on 07/17/2014 9:24:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Morgana

I believe in Sex Ed that is similar to the old school “Drivers Ed” where people are show pictures from high speed car crashes, only in this case it is pictures of people damaged by STDs...


6 posted on 07/17/2014 9:25:01 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Morgana

A pledge by itself is just a piece of paper. It takes an involved father to protect a child, and prayer.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 9:26:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: GraceG

That’s how we teach it when we go on mission trips. Pictures of the results.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 9:26:44 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

[ But pretty much 100% of gays are practicing risky sex, yet THAT behavior is ENCOURAGED by society. Do I detect a double-standard here? ]

Imagine a bucket of acid...

Now imagine someone saying that as long as you put on a flimsy latex glove you can sit there all day and stir the bucket of acid with a your hand....

Now imagine someone saying it is cool and trendy to stir the bucket of acid with your hand as long as you have on this paper thin latex glove....

People are going to get BURNED!!!!

No one is saying the best way to avoid getting burned is to NOT PUT YOUR DAMNED HAND INTO THE BUCKET OF ACID IN THE FIRST DAMNED PLACE!!!!


9 posted on 07/17/2014 9:28:45 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: fwdude

“I think “virginity pledges” just make you a target for the promiscuous a$$holes out there who want a challenge. Why announce it as some kind of badge of honor?”

I never considered that but you may be correct.


10 posted on 07/17/2014 9:30:12 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

The leader of some major Evangelical abstinence group has a teenage daughter who became pregnant. The DUmmies are chortling with glee over that.

Even with best intentions you can’t control every decision your teenage kids make every second of every day.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 9:30:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Steve_Seattle

I, for one, will not succumb to ‘queer pressure’.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 9:32:45 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Morgana

Am I the only one who remembers when abstinence was ASSUMED?


13 posted on 07/17/2014 9:32:56 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: lurk
It takes an involved father to protect a child, and prayer.

Amen!

This doesn't hurt, either

Trunk Monkey Date Night Chaperone

14 posted on 07/17/2014 9:35:10 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: Morgana

Interestingly enough, this article is obliquely stating that only the “Very Religious” are capable of being trustworthy and keeping a promise or a pledge.

That’s a real slap in the face to people who are NOT “very religious”. hahaha


15 posted on 07/17/2014 9:39:46 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: BwanaNdege

http://www.kidsgrowth.com/resources/articledetail.cfm?id=2082

Ten Simple Rules for Dating my Daughter

by W Bruce Cameron

Rule One :

If you pull into my driveway and honk you’d better be delivering a package, because you’re sure not picking anything up.

Rule Two :

You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter’s body, I will remove them.

Rule Three :

I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys your age to wear their trousers so loose that they appear to be falling off. Please don’t take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off during your date with my daughter, I will use my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely to your waist.

Rule Four :

I’m sure you’ve been told that in today’s world, sex without utilizing a “barrier method” of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

Rule Five :

In order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is “early.”

Rule Six :

I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.

Rule Seven :

As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don’t you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?

Rule Eight :

The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough for my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which features chain saws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.

Rule Nine :

Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

Rule Ten :

Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy outside of Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit your car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, then return to your car—there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face watching you from the window is mine.


16 posted on 07/17/2014 9:40:36 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: Morgana
Virginity Pledges (Still) Don’t Work, Unless You’re Really Religious

Or very serious about it.

17 posted on 07/17/2014 9:45:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Morgana
People are meant to get married young. Expecting them to wait until they are thirty when they have their education and career established is a relatively new phenomenon, and a recipe for promiscuity and all manner of perversions.

The best marriages I know of are people who got married young, many times because they "had to get married."

18 posted on 07/17/2014 9:45:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Morgana
Without God, the very concept of morality is meaningless. Who is to say what is right and what is wrong? Does the wolf feel he has done something wrong when he kills the sheep? Without God setting the moral boundaries of life, morality becomes a political football in the hands of the powerful. They toss it around for their own benefit.

Humanism is a joke. Consensus is a pathetic, fraudulent method for creating an entirely flimsy and shifting set of laws based on avarice.

19 posted on 07/17/2014 9:55:52 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The best marriages I know of are people who got married young, many times because they “had to get married.””

My wife an I married over 46 years ago, ages 17 and 19 respectively, because we “had to.”

Passion trumps preaching, when hormones rage and people care for each other.

My guess is that young people today don’t marry, partly because there is no stigma.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 10:19:28 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Morgana

HAHAHAHAA. Oh the purity ring.

Back in my early college dating days I was going to a very large church in the city. I was dating one girl with a sister who were wearing “purity” rings given to them by the church, along with every other young woman. As soon as those girls met the new college stud that ring came off faster than their blouses. When confronted it was just the “you don’t understand” response. That was when I became aware of the ‘friend zone’ and learned a lot about young women’s approach to dating.


21 posted on 07/17/2014 10:35:32 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: struggle

I’ve been re-reading some old books by Leanne Payne, a Christian prayer minister. She saw this gay thing coming 30 years ago.


22 posted on 07/17/2014 2:12:46 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Organic Panic

“When confronted it was just the “you don’t understand” response.”

Yea you are correct, I don’t understand.


23 posted on 07/17/2014 2:17:25 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: lurk

“A pledge by itself is just a piece of paper. It takes an involved father AND MOTHER to protect a child, and prayer.”

—There fixed it. Yes a father is important but it takes both parents to raise the kid.


24 posted on 07/17/2014 2:18:32 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Organic Panic
"Back in my early college dating days I was going to a very large church in the city. I was dating one girl with a sister who were wearing “purity” rings given to them by the church, along with every other young woman. As soon as those girls met the new college stud that ring came off faster than their blouses. When confronted it was just the “you don’t understand” response."

The fact that the rings were "handed out" by the church says it all. For most people growing up in the 50s and 60s, religion was a habit or convention that they inherited, not a deeply held conviction. And that was really nothing new in the West. But until the mid-60's, "official" society more-or-less stood behind those religious norms. After that, the pretense all fell away. You could see it happing on the old Ed Sullivan Show, when suddenly Ed had to deal with acts like The Doors and The Rolling Stones, and they just ignored his moral dictates.
25 posted on 07/17/2014 2:19:46 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“The best marriages I know of are people who got married young, many times because they “had to get married.” “

Problem is nowdays..those “shotgun” marriages now end in divorce. Why? They were not in love but in lust. Shotgun marriages might have worked in the past but not today, not with easy divorce. Plus really it’s best to marry the person you love.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 2:21:09 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Only a liberal thinks abstinence is “unrealistic” because, as usual, they are projecting themselves onto the issue.

Just because they are unable to keep their pants on doesn’t mean everyone can’t.


27 posted on 07/17/2014 2:21:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Steve_Seattle; Organic Panic

“For most people growing up in the 50s and 60s, religion was a habit or convention that they inherited, not a deeply held conviction. .........”

About the time they started handed out those rings is about the time Planned Parenthood has infiltrated the schools with sex education classes, abortion was legal, teen pregnancy was at an all time high and Madonna was singing “Like a Virgin” on the radio.

Need I say more?


28 posted on 07/17/2014 2:24:09 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Whatever.


29 posted on 07/17/2014 2:24:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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