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Megyn Kelly Gets Her History Wrong

Posted on 07/18/2014 9:07:56 AM PDT by 7thson

Anyone catch Megyn Kelly last night? She led with the shot down airliner. Whem mentioning the 1983 Korean plane that was shot down, she stated "accidently shot down by the Russians."

Two things wrong -

One - the Reagan administration had the goods and played the recording at the UN. The Soviets knew it was a civilian aircraft and shot it down anyway. Nothing accidental about it.

Two - she can't even say Soviets. President Reagan did not say Russians - he said Soviets.

What is wrong with these people?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: megynkelly; obama; reagan; shotdown

1 posted on 07/18/2014 9:07:56 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

She’s utterly unwatchable.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 9:09:35 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: 7thson

It was shot down deliberately by Soviet airplanes, in international airspace. A great patriot, Rep. Larry McDonald, was on board, and both Rep. Phil Crane and Sen. Jesse Helms were initially slated to be on it as well, but circumstances caused them to change flights.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 9:09:47 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 7thson
The Soviets knew it was a civilian aircraft and shot it down anyway.

Same thing with this plane.

4 posted on 07/18/2014 9:10:52 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 7thson

Speaking of the reagan speech, I LOVE how Reagan stuck it to eh soviets by saying their refusal to add in the frequency thing was to prevent their own pilots from defecting, LOL. Reagan knew how to drub rub it inthe commies faces! No wonder the left hate him so damned much.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 9:11:01 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: TBP

[ It was shot down deliberately by Soviet airplanes, in international airspace. A great patriot, Rep. Larry McDonald, was on board, and both Rep. Phil Crane and Sen. Jesse Helms were initially slated to be on it as well, but circumstances caused them to change flights. ]

There has been a LOT of Speculation surrounding this fact too.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 9:12:11 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: 7thson
Anyone catch Megyn Kelly last night?
Catching Kelly is no different than catching Greta, BOR or Hannity.
All four shows have the same topics, the same guests, the same commenters and the same 30 minutes of commercials per hour.
Boring!
7 posted on 07/18/2014 9:14:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: 7thson

yes Megyn is getting more shrill and harder to take

and she did screw up her lawyerly “facts” big time

KAL-007 was deliberately ordered shot down though fighter pilot identified target as a civilian airliner


8 posted on 07/18/2014 9:14:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: TBP

They made a TV movie about it

Tailspin: Behind the Korean Airliner Tragedy
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098430/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_53


9 posted on 07/18/2014 9:15:36 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: 7thson
What is wrong with these people?

Years of public school followed by a few years with left wing college professors.

10 posted on 07/18/2014 9:16:10 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 7thson

Reagan was usually careful to make that distinction.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 9:16:26 AM PDT by Argus
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To: RIghtwardHo
She’s utterly unwatchable.

I can watch her, maybe not listen to her, but I can watch.

12 posted on 07/18/2014 9:17:25 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: 7thson

I watched her at first. But after skewering Cheny I have no use for the rino _____!


13 posted on 07/18/2014 9:18:50 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: 7thson
What is wrong with (Megyn Kelly)

That's easy, she's about one tenth as smart as she thinks she is. Who can forget one come-uppance she received on national TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLQebqVQKcc

14 posted on 07/18/2014 9:22:37 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: showme_the_Glory

yes, hit the mute button, and just watch.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 9:23:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: 7thson

Really Sherlock


16 posted on 07/18/2014 9:23:37 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: 7thson

I don’t always agree with her, but I like her for the most part.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 9:25:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: RIghtwardHo
I don't watch editorialized news. To much over sensationalized fake drama.
So I keep the set off unless I'm watching old BW movies. I get my news here.
18 posted on 07/18/2014 9:26:31 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: oh8eleven

Once in a great while I will watch Greta for a liyttle while. She is the only one that is even half way tolerable.


19 posted on 07/18/2014 9:27:49 AM PDT by sheana
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To: silverleaf

That was a function of the Soviet air defense command system: the pilots were trained to do what the ground controllers told them to. The ground controllers who couldnt see the plane didn’t believe that it was a civilian. The pilot(s) who could see it couldn’t disobey the instructions they rec’d from the controllers.


20 posted on 07/18/2014 9:28:31 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 7thson
What is wrong with these people?

Other than being liberal twits?

21 posted on 07/18/2014 9:30:23 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: showme_the_Glory

Not with that heroin-chic hair. And what’s with all the purple and leopard skin?


22 posted on 07/18/2014 9:31:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: silverleaf
and she did screw up her lawyerly “facts” big time

If it is brought to her attention, odds are pretty good that she'll do a correction.

23 posted on 07/18/2014 9:34:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 7thson
I love Megyn Kelly. She's smart, has a quick wit and really sticks it to the libs.
24 posted on 07/18/2014 9:44:51 AM PDT by 429CJ (.wh)
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To: tanknetter

as I recall, the Soviets were paranoid about civilian airliners being used as spy platforms

especially since they did that themselves

In their eyes, KAL-007 was a spy plane on a military mission and thus a valid target

I had a friend who was at a listening post close to that disaster while it was going down, and he was shaken by what happened, even years later


25 posted on 07/18/2014 9:45:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: 7thson

Did you see her chat with that bloviating RINO peter king? He was lamenting about owebama’s “leadership” (there isn’t any) and she stated that “No one believes that he doesn’t care.” You stupid twit - the only things he cares about are:

1.) Himself
2.) The destruction of the USA from within.


26 posted on 07/18/2014 9:45:56 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: TBP

I remember reading that when the United States was actively looking for the black box, the Soviets had ships and boats in the area and were deliberately revving their boats’ motors as to mask the pings from the bb.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 9:50:43 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: 7thson

Gee wiz Megyn was all of about 12 years old and her writers probably even younger when the KAL plane went down. Sloppy yes, but hardly an indictment. She plays it fairly straight, yes she worked Cheney over last month, at the same time she destroyed Stewart and Fluke on Hobby lobby. In general she goes after liberals and their issues pretty hard.


28 posted on 07/18/2014 9:51:29 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: 7thson

Most of the idiots running around this country today have no clue what the term “Soviets” refers to. Most would probably say that Soviets used to live in Vietnam before America won her independence from Vietnam.


29 posted on 07/18/2014 9:51:47 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: silverleaf

Yup, I can’t recall if it was a Rivet Joint or Cobra Ball (recce 707) that the Sovs thought it was.

The USAF was flying highly aggressive mission profiles, actively trying to get the Sovs to respond (but not to the point of a shootdown) this revealing their capabilities. Remember that this was the same time the USN was sending special missions subs deep into Sov territory to tap underwater comma cables.


30 posted on 07/18/2014 9:55:41 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 7thson

Hey, cut her some slack. She was only 13 then.


31 posted on 07/18/2014 9:57:37 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: tanknetter

Sorry, should be recce KC-135, not 707, in my above


32 posted on 07/18/2014 9:58:00 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Given that she herself is a Lawyer, that had to sting...


33 posted on 07/18/2014 10:21:54 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (SpithWest)
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To: 429CJ

...”I love Megyn Kelly. She’s smart, has a quick wit and really sticks it to the libs.”...

Yes..I cannot believe what I am reading here. Have we been taken over by the enemy? If I had to choose from every newscast or opinion program on TV, I would choose Megyn Kelly. She has courage and she is a very smart lawyer and I know plenty of them..Even have them in my own family. I am guessing we are hearing from some very envious people on this thread, probably mostly guys who hate smart girly competition. MEGYN RULES!


34 posted on 07/18/2014 10:26:30 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: VRWCarea51

I doubt she is smart enough to know she got schooled….or maybe too arrogant to admit it, even to self.

But she got schooled!


35 posted on 07/18/2014 10:27:37 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: jazzlite
If I had to choose from every newscast or opinion program on TV, I would choose Megyn Kelly. She has courage and she is a very smart lawyer

With due respect, no. She is gorgeous, but I've never seen any real evidence of smarts, or courage.

36 posted on 07/18/2014 10:28:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: jazzlite
Obama czar proposed government 'infiltrate' social network sites
37 posted on 07/18/2014 10:29:30 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: silverleaf

Megyn talks too much! Tells you what her guest is going to say without giving him/her the chance to get it out.


38 posted on 07/18/2014 10:32:06 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: luvbach1

they’ve all got it now, FOXNEWS mega mouth
Hannity (bad), O’ Reilly (worse)..even Cavuto and Dobbs
I cant watch any of them anymore, all they do is invite interesting guests and then talk over them


39 posted on 07/18/2014 10:36:37 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: RIghtwardHo

She is set up to be part of the Dialectic. Although, the one step backward. She is the “pushback” that will march us right into the chains (like Rush Limbaugh has been doing).

Anyone, like Kelly, who supports sodomy or “sodomy rights” is supporting destroying the Constitution of the USA and Rule of Law (Higher Law).

The underlying philosophy and theology which created the USA and the “First Principles” of that document can NEVER be removed. Otherwise, it fundamentally changes the meaning of Rights, of Objective Truth, etc. and destroys the brilliant concepts underlying that document (the Supreme Law of the USA) which gave us unalienable Natural Rights from God.

There is no compatibility with any other belief system, like Satanism, Marxism, or islam with our Founding Documents,. Other worldviews would teach little children the opposite of our “unalienable Natural Rights from God” and teach that vice is a “right from God”— that sodomizing others is a “good” although it always uses people in dehumanizing, vile ways and as a “means” devoid of Reason and Morality.

There are two Objective Truths that can’t be removed from our Constitution—otherwise, it becomes Stalin’s constitution or a muslim one, which absolutely destroys “Individual Natural Rights from God”. The State makes up “rights” and no rights originate from God; no NATURAL rights and no unalienable rights.

That is-—that all Natural Rights that exist come from God-—not the State and the State can’t make up arbitrary “rights” and destroy the meaning of the words; Natural or Rights or God or unalienable (which the courts have done completely now which is unconstitutional. Justice John Marshall stated that all law that is antithetical to the Supreme Law is Null and Void (because it is unjust law (promotes vice or evil or unequal laws (loopholes)).

Promoting “homosexual” anything is the promotion of vice in a “Justice” (virtue) System which can’t be done without removing Truth/God/Christianity from the minds of children. It will warp Reality and create a NWO which is irrational and removed Natural Law Theory (and Christian Ethics) which formed the meaning and intent (First Principles) in the US Constitution.

Promoting Vice and using human beings as “Means” destroys the fundamental meaning of “Justice” and “Virtue” which created our Judicial System and Common Law, etc. It makes it an arbitrary irrational thing which supports vice-—ideas which are dehumanizing and use people as a “Means” to an End-—like slavery, abortion, and sodomy.

Promotion of sodomy removes Reason from Law and you never can have irrational “Just” law. Not possible. There is a teleological end to man and women which is Natural and can never be removed from Logic/Reason since Natural Laws created Science and Logic. We see now the Marxists who are trying to teach little children that male and females are interchangeable which is a lie and irrational. It removes Natural Law Theory and Science and Logic from the minds of children. It creates a muslim/Marxist irrational worldview in our children. It removes Truth from their worldview.

It creates a “Justice” (vice) System which promotes vice and arbitrary law and destroys the concept of Objective Truth/God which will destroy Rule of Law and the Western Civilization concept of “Justice” developed since Cicero which made Western Civilization so great (because of Reason/Logic/Truth/God)-—and gave the concept of individual Natural Rights from God (not man) to the World.

Totally erased slavery and pederasty and homosexuality and child sacrifice (all normal in other cultures) and considered a “Good” or “right”. Practicing vice is always slavery. Promoting vice to children will breed vice and a destruction of Free autonomous cultures.

As Montesquieu stated (and the Greek masters) the only purpose of education is to promote Virtue-—and for Free Republics it is imperative for the State to promote “Public Virtue” always. Otherwise, chaos and tyranny will result.

Promoting sodomy in our laws and forcing children to be tolerant of vice is evil and indoctrination and it is to remove natural instincts and morality so that a muslim/marxist (irrational) worldview is possible.

The Cultural Marxists knew to collapse Western Civilization you destroy Christianity and the Natural Family. (You do that by promoting vice and lies 24/7 to destroy Reason and Logic in children so they have minds like 3rd world children who are easily controlled by emotions).

Megyn Kelly is facilitating that with her pretty face and intelligent mind—promoting the “homosexual agenda” which will fool many good Christians since she is married and has a family.

Perceptions of the masses (totally controlled now in all MSM including Fox)....where there is no Reason or Truth allowed in the public square (no God/Christianity/Truth/Jesus Christ).

....so why is Kelly so “successful” when all MSM (including Fox) is promoting the NWO. People promoting and open to the real (Christian/Natural Law) Truth end up like Breitbart, if they can’t bribe them, or shut them up and they have an incredible platform like Kelly.

She is successful with logical, good people because she basically promotes Truth most of the time, and people are drawn to the Truth. But she only goes so far (which the NWO always OKs).

She only on occasion-—very sparingly throws in the Marxist/muslim worldview of perversions, to seduce the Godly into utter Satanism/Marxism and irrational, unjust law.

She may not know that she is a useful idiot-—many good people do not even know it....that is because hard=core Marxists are so incredibly brilliant, since Edwards Bernays—people who can literally control the emotions and perceptions of the masses, always, unless you are able to unplug yourself from the Matrix which is almost impossible today.

It takes an incredible amount of time, decades even (and most people don’t have the time with the slavic governments we live in now) and Knowledge which comes from reading the Great Books (which is no long possible in public schools since Dewey) and you must understand “true” Reality as much as possible which means understanding philsophy and ideologies and theologies, so you understand the fundamental agendas of each—and where it will lead you, which the study of (true) history will (original sources, now zinn biased lies).


40 posted on 07/18/2014 10:37:08 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
With due respect, no. She is gorgeous, but I've never seen any real evidence of smarts, or courage.

You claim to be smart and witty and I've never seen any evidence of that.

Say something original and funny!

41 posted on 07/18/2014 10:37:15 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: savagesusie

Sorry so sloppy with grammar mistakes, etc. but time is so limited.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 10:44:34 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: silverleaf
yes Megyn is getting more shrill and harder to take

Yeah ... especially when she does a lead on segment with BOR ... then comes on immediately after the O'Reilly Factor. Less is more ... her shrill delivery is grating. After she launched on former V/P Dick Cheney in a recent interview my estimation of her tanked.

43 posted on 07/18/2014 10:46:14 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: jazzlite

I agree. This is one of our biggest problems. We trash the only people who give our side the time of day. Part of the problem with these shows is that the format is loaded up with commercials and it makes the hosts have to push guests to get the facts out quickly before the segment is over. The guests for the most part understand that, but it does annoy people watching because they want to hear more.

Is FOX perfect? Is FOX conservative? The answer is No, but if it was not for FOX, people on our side wouldn’t get the time of day. The left despises FOX because they know FOX is at the top in viewers. They know that FOX is able to influence and expose what other networks will not.

I really don’t get the Kelly hate. All FOX hosts have to allow both sides. Fair and balanced you know.


44 posted on 07/18/2014 10:52:42 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 7thson
True, the plane wasn't accidentally shot down, but it's still a little murky who knew what and when. The pilot knew it was a Boeing 747, but claimed it didn't matter as it could well have been re-purposed for military use. He also claimed that he didn't tell ground control that it was a 747.

Megyn should have known more about the real story, but you can certainly find the idea that the Soviets "accidentally" shot down the plane on the Internet, on the theory (I suppose) that if the Soviets had known it wasn't a spy flight they wouldn't have acted as they did. I don't buy that idea, but don't see much to be gained by getting on Megyn's case.

FWIW, Wikipedia says that Richard Nixon was booked for the flight, but decided not to go.

45 posted on 07/18/2014 10:53:52 AM PDT by x
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To: tanknetter
Sorry, should be recce KC-135, not 707, in my above

KC-135's don't do reconnaissance. They do aerial refueling. They are based off of the Boeing 707 platform. Rivet Joint is also based on the 707, which is the RC-135.

46 posted on 07/18/2014 11:00:38 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

Actually they are recce modified KC-135s. That’s how they started life, before they were converted. Many retained the boom operators station, although the boom had been removed.

The -135 and 707 are different airfames with a common ancestor, the Boeing Dash 80. The 707 was, in USAF service, used as the basis for the C-137 (including those used in the Air Force One role), the E-3 Sentry and E-8 JSTARS. It’s also used as the basis for the Navy E-6 Mercury airborne command and control aircraft.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 11:12:21 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

All of the converted KC-135’s either crashed or are retired.


48 posted on 07/18/2014 11:15:06 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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