Skip to comments.A question for women...
Posted on 07/18/2014 10:49:41 AM PDT by MNDude
Recently I was involved with a business meeting with another officer of our company with a woman seeking a contracting job with our company.
We went out to lunch for a long meeting to discuss what we were looking for and what she had to offer. After our meeting, she said something like "I'm sure you guys would like to discuss this with one another if I'm a match or not. I would like to excuse myself to the restroom." She then took her purse, put it in the middle of the table and left for the restroom.
We then started discussing our initial thoughts and concerns about our meeting with her. A while later she came back to rejoin us, and later on in the week, she sent us an email discussing possible objections we might have to hiring her.
The guy that I met with is convinced that she left a recorder inside her purse and and then put the purse in front of us to capture our conversation. He says "a woman would never leave her purse on the table with some guys she just met! She was recording us!"
I don't know what is normal for carrying and leaving a purse, so my question is for the women here. How odd is it that she left purse on the table with us while she went to the restroom? Odd enough to have suspicions about being recorded?
As a woman, I NEVER leave my purse anywhere, anytime. It is “strapped” to me, if you catch my drift.
Dude, you were had.
Women never go to the ladies room without their repair kit.
Hope you didn’t comment on her ‘assets’
Women are ALWAYS recording you whether they have an electronic device or not.
I wouldn’t have left it on the table. Of course, I wouldn’t have left an interview to use the restroom, either.
I never put my purse on any table. ewwweeew. Who knows there that purse has been. So yup, she recorded it to find out whether you said anything even remotely sexist. I don’t know what the laws are in your state but I would talk to a lawyer about this.... maybe a female lawyer.
I agree, I would never leave my purse with someone I don’t know, sometimes even the ones I do know.
How close was she when she emailed “possible objections to be discussed” to what you discussed with her purse?
Your friend was right. She was recording you. I am not a woman but have dated many over the years. No woman deliberately leaves her purse alone at the table while she goes to the W.C. by herself or with others. The most she might do is ask you to keep an eye on it while she leaves for a moment -on the seat next to you, not on the table where anyone passing by might nick it.
I thought women took their purses to the bathroom with them and not just because of privacy or theft concerns, but because they like to carry all their female needs and tools with them.
I’m a guy... but you were had.
I think she was recording you. I would never leave my purse with anyone other than my husband. Even then it’s rare, most especially if I am going to the restroom. If I am going to go get more drinks maybe.
Are you in a state that prohibits recording a conversation without permission from all parties?
No. I never leave my purse. She had a recorder.
Never in a million years. Of course I purse carry so that adds to it but... nope. We don’t leave our purses.
“Anything you say will be used against”
I think it is odd, but not unheard of. If her email mentioned things that you had brought up while she was away, then I think you’ve got something, but if not, then I think your coworker is being paranoid. There are probably laws about taping without your consent, so if you are concerned, check in to what those might be.
Minnesota is a one party consent state:
A one-party consent state permits individuals to record conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so. In other words, one-party states allow recording of phone calls or conversations with the consent of only one of the parties to the conversation.
Since she was not a party to this conversation, she has in effect committed a wire-tapping felony. If you can get her to admit she recorded you in front of a witness or on a recording, tell her to not bother objecting or you will inform the authorities. End of story.
If there was a recording device, then it is likely anything she gets would be totally illegal to be used in any way as doing such a thing is a felony in many places without your knowledge.
I grew up in farm country, so I don’t carry a purse. I know that sounds unusual and I have considered carrying one, I do take a backpack to work for carrying certain useful items.
But I would be suspicious as heck, I would have left the room and discussed outside the room.
Could be she was “lawsuit shopping” a employment discrimination lawsuit.
What state are you in? Some states only have to have one party consent to recording...
Yeah, why aren’t they required to read us our Miranda rights first?
Okay guys, here’s how it works:
1. You were recorded. I’m shocked that wasn’t obvious. I would have stated the obvious and then discussed sports until she came back. (Note: this stunt can also be pulled leaving a phone on the table instead of a purse. It’s not as obvious with a better result. Always assume you are being recorded in today’s society. So sad.)
2. I never leave my purse in public. It’s always on my person (as is my firearm).
3. At work, I never take my purse to the bathroom when I change a tampon. I slip the tampon in the front of my bra. However, I always take my purse to the bathroom so I can brush my teeth.
Hope this helps solve the mystery of a woman’s purse.... :)
That’s the first thing I thought of. Not somebody I would trust about anything.
The purse may not have had a recording device, but that guy you “met with?” Promote him.
I think she was recording you too. I usually don’t even leave my purse with my husband.
She is very manipulative and I would stay as far away from her as possible. You don’t want to be associated with anyone that sneaky.
AKA the SB.
I had to click on his profile to see if he was a Limey.
When I was a hiring manager we interviewed in one area, talked in another.
I was doing start ups at the time I spent half an hour reviewing the prospects work experience and then turned the Supervisors, for whom they might work on them.
Talked in the talk area, voted and then sent an up or down to HR.
What’s W.C. other than “water cooler”?
:: At work, I never take my purse to the bathroom when I change a tampon. I slip the tampon in the front of my bra. However, I always take my purse to the bathroom so I can brush my teeth. ::
Ummmm, why would you need to brush your teeth after changing you tampon?
Whats W.C. other than water cooler?
I am not a woman but I have NEVER seen a woman willingly leave her purse behind with strangers.
Never would ANY woman leave it! Whether I need what’s in it or not, where I go, it goes!
‘I think she was recording you’
I hope she was cause this could get humorous, keep us up to date.
She just plopped her purse down in the middle of the dinner table? How weird. I might leave mine under my chair if I was going to wash my hands or something. But leaving in on the table is just plain rude and intrusive. I don’t know of any other women who would do that either.
My purse never leaves my side when I’m out in public. MNDude, you were recorded.
Sorry to read this, and to answer your query; us women never leave our purses unattended, ever.
A woman who left her purse with two people she just met? I wouldn’t hire her, because she’s either up to something (like recording your conversation) or she’s an idiot (leaving her purse with people she doesn’t know). If she doesn’t look after her own assets, how well will she protect company assets?
No way would I walk away from my handbag and I don’t know of any woman who would do that. You are right to be suspicious.
Don’t leave us haging, Dude.
Tell us what you guys said when she was in the restroom.
‘Ummmm, why would you need to brush your teeth after changing you tampon?’
LOL! Good one.
Now that does sound like someone from England.
Huh. Must be Fried Day.
I thought so when you mentioned the purse. Of course, she did.
But...if she did it was illegal because in states that you can record at least one person involved in the conversation has to know that it is being recorded.
My MIL is in a nursing home with dementia/Alzheimer’s you can tell when they’ve progressed to the last stages of the disease when they no longer keep their purses with them at all times.
I think she recorded you as well. I would never leave my purse behind if I was going to the restroom. (What if you guys went through it?) Then you would know our secrets! LOL. Also, I would not have left an interview to use the restroom. Weird.
“If there was a recording device, then it is likely anything she gets would be totally illegal to be used in any way as doing such a thing is a felony in many places without your knowledge.”
That may be absolutely true. It could also cost you big five figures to escape a lawsuit destined to fail, if brought.
Haha...what are laws in your state regarding recording someone? You better start researching. I ONLY leave my purse at a table with my husband....and NEVER on the table...yuk...
Yes, she was recording. Why didn’t you suspect it immediately?
Ha ha—too true!
I had her pegged for recording you the second you said she put her purse on the table. There should not be any question for you two never hiring her because she’ll have every inch of her office bugged and sue the company to extinction within two weeks.