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Posted on 07/19/2014 9:51:10 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
The widow of a Staten Island man who died after a police officer apparently used an unauthorized chokehold on him collapsed in tears into the arms of the Rev. Al Sharpton during a rally Saturday morning at his Harlem headquarters.
Esaw Garner had to be ushered off the stage as Sharpton described how her husband, 43-year-old Eric Garner of Port Richmond, died Thursday following a confrontation with police after complaints that he was selling single untaxed cigarettes. Part of the confrontation was captured in video taken by a bystander.
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Selling CIGARETTES? Taxed or not, deserving of the death penalty! < /sarc >
I’ll wager the guy did not die from the ‘choke hold,’ he likely died from a heart attack from exerting himself during the arrest. The ‘choke hold’ is actually very safe.
The problems I saw with the “choke hold” was that instead of creating a little space across the wind pipe caused by the crook in the arm inside the elbow, , the person applying the hold couldn’t or didn’t extend their arm all the way over to pressure the carotid on the far side, so their forearm crushed the wind pipe. Some people have died from this. One I remember with LAPD in the 1980s.
I had short arms and it’s something I was aware of the three times I actually applied the hold.
Our director banned it because of the problems in LA.
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People definitely used to die from it when it was used frequently.
This proves cigarettes are bad for your health.
The LAPD police chief said that black peoples throats don’t open as quickly as normal peoples.
That caused a real uproar among blacks and jokes among the Cops who started referring to their patrol cars as “ Blacks and Normals”.
A friend of mine who used to sell “lucies” out of her small coffee shop was fined. She was not put in a choke hold.
I heard about the comment, but not the last line.
An ambulance was called and Garner went into cardiac arrest while he was being taken to Richmond University Medical Center, where he was later pronounced dead, Bratton said.
Looks like he was unresponsive on the sidewalk before the medics got there. At the 1:36 mark, one of the witnesses can be heard saying that he was having a seizure. Bratton is on shaky ground with this claim.
Post #11 refers to this you tube vid => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvATEjsf41g
Never thought I’d be on the same side as Sharpton, but in this particular case I am. Cops seem to get off on using tasers... why didn’t they in this case?
“An ambulance was called and Garner went into cardiac arrest while he was being taken to Richmond University Medical Center, where he was later pronounced dead, Bratton said.”
That’s Bratton’s story and he’s sticking to it.
No, they did not die from being choked. They died from either exertion or drugs in their system or a combination of both.
I used the choke for nearly 30 years and never hurt anybody. The only person I saw hurt from a choke was from a cop who was not very good at it letting go of the guy he was choking after the guy was out. The guy fell over and hit his head on the floor and needed a few stitches.
When I was sent to a school to be a police instructor I did research on the “choke hold.” In the entire history of Olympic Judo, nobody had ever died from a strangulation technique. The choke is very prevalent in MMA, nobody has died to date from that either.
The Kansas City PD did an extensive search on this subject. They now teach what is commonly known at the ‘Lateral Vascular Neck Restraint.” No deaths that I am aware of.
Attributing deaths to the choke hold is another media lie.
In my nearly 30 years I saw countless people choked. Not one died. We did have 1 die from reaction to pepper spray and 1 by reaction to the Tazer.
I was issued a Tazer. The first 5 times I tried to use it it did not work. I even wrote in a police report that I had no confidence in it. I didn’t ‘get off’ on using it either, we were ordered to use it. Because of lawsuits the ‘next best thing’ is going to continue to be used by police forces to use the least force to make an arrest.
Los Angeles had 16 die in a 7 year period.
I don’t believe a word you say.
This choke hold killed many people in LA during the 80’s and was subsequently banned because of that and it’s probably banned in New York because of that.
I have seen something similar. Lift the elbow, grab the fist, tuck the chin and try to move out. Without the arm lock at the end.
I believe there is not enough time spent on physical training, self defense and restraint. I kept trying to get an ongoing program start from more time at the academy and then twice a month on the job. Never enough money. I recommend to employees they attend some training off the job on their own dimes.
A little physical training can be dangerous.