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Maria Bartiromo: we need Economic Patriotism (Hooray Maria!!) on show Sunday Morning Futures
Fox News | July 20 2014 | (rant)

Posted on 07/20/2014 7:59:47 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

Hooray!

Maria Bartiromo and gang were just discussing "Economic Patriotism" on her Fox News Channel show "Sunday Morning Futures".

I couldn't believe it. FINALLY.

Way to go. Much more conservatives need to climb on board this important topic.


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KEYWORDS: business; economy; taxes
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Speak up.

Bring back American jobs.

1 posted on 07/20/2014 7:59:47 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
How?

I mean besides saying it?

2 posted on 07/20/2014 8:03:46 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No, we need to end government policies that force companies to move investments and business offshore in order to maximize profits.


3 posted on 07/20/2014 8:08:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Maria Bartiromo and gang were just discussing "Economic Patriotism" on her Fox News Channel show ...
Tried watching but Bartiromo has this really annoying habit of repeatedly flashing her eyes toward the camera, while she's talking to the others on the show. Click.
4 posted on 07/20/2014 8:08:54 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Years ago while trying to make the point, both here and to fellow conservatives at my employ, I was castigated as anti free enterprise. Get what you can, however you can get it was all the rage. Now,reading the comments on the Forbes thread it seems people are finally getting what has been going on with fervor over the last 25 years.It’s gonna be hard to stop the momentum.


5 posted on 07/20/2014 8:11:39 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: rsobin

Just noting:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/18/media/forbes-sold/

Forbes, was just sold (yesterday) to a Hong Kong investment group.


6 posted on 07/20/2014 8:14:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: rsobin

Years ago when I worked at NASA, someone would be showing off there brand new Japanese car, I would ask them “How are the workers in Detroit going to pay your salary if you don’t buy the cars they make”? Then they would give me that “disgusted look” as they turned around and walked away without comment.


7 posted on 07/20/2014 8:20:33 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
we need economic patriotism

As long as the basic environment of the country is anti-business, which inhibits profits and capital accumulation, with high taxes, too many regulations, hatred of the rich, budget deficits, government spending,and inflation, then economic patriotism is irrational.

8 posted on 07/20/2014 8:23:00 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry to put a damper in this, but it is nothing but a well-intended dream...it is a contamination of ideology from the left... anyone adhering to this has never had a seat in the boardroom. “Economic Patriotism” belongs in the marketing department...PROFIT belongs in the boardroom. You want jobs to stay here? You want to put America back to work? You don’t do it with “Hope and change” logos...you do it by causing the behavior in the boardroom (where those decisions are made), to change because it increases profit! Reduce the corporate taxes, get the unions and government out if the way of business and entrepreneurism. Anyone in a real boardroom would put as much weight to “Economic Patriotism” as they did Occupy Wall Street. Don’t fall for the do-gooder theme of the moment. Make the hard choices...reduce taxes, reduce regulation...you won’t need anything “hopy and changy”, change the business platform to increase a company’s profits and success and the desired result will happen instantly and automatically. (What Would Reagan Do?)...better yet...(What DID Reagan do?)


9 posted on 07/20/2014 8:25:36 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mjp

Economic Patriotism = Kowtowing to unions.


10 posted on 07/20/2014 8:26:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What Pat Buchanan has been talking about for 20+ years. Instead we have Obama/Democrat crony capitalism


11 posted on 07/20/2014 8:27:02 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Really ..?? It wasn’t Maria who was touting that phrase “Economic Patriotism” .. it was JACK LEW (another Obama stooge) .. and he was saying it because some really big companies are moving overseas to get away from the over-bearing taxes and regulations now being imposed upon them.

One of the latest is Abbott Labs .. who is moving to Ireland.

I have recorded her show .. but I did see her earlier on Fox & Friends .. and there is no way she agreed with Jack Lew.


12 posted on 07/20/2014 8:33:10 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I don’t know.

China is (rapidly) taking our place.

China is not open to free enterprise. China has laws regarding their own involvement in industries, which support China.

China was very good for global capitalism, but is now in danger of taking over. American investors, cannot own businesses (except in the minority) in China. Everything is majority owned, by one race: Chinese.

We need to focus on American industry. Stop selling everything, to a competing system.

We continue to see the world as nothing but a gigantic support for the American industrial machine.

China is becoming the world’s premier industrial country. China’s population is nearly five times America’s.

America needs to wake the heck up, and bring back American industry.

I’m completely series. We need to stop making excuses for every country but America.

We need to build back up, or own nation.


13 posted on 07/20/2014 8:33:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: CyberAnt

Sorry if I misrepresented.

I had the news on in the background, I might have mischaracterized the segment.

However it was on the show.


14 posted on 07/20/2014 8:34:38 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
“Economic Patriotism” belongs in the marketing department...PROFIT belongs in the boardroom.

How true! Corporations don't "pay taxes", they pass them on to their customers in the form of higher prices. When our byzantine labyrinth of IRS regulations penalizes companies who have earnings abroad (as they do now), the "Smart" move is to MOVE the corporation's base to the most tax friendly international destinations!

Remember, if you want more of something you subsidize it..., if you want less of something you tax it! Obviously "our government" wants less domestic corporations since it makes "Economic Patriotism" very costly!

15 posted on 07/20/2014 8:40:37 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Exactly right!

Talk is talk, profit is money, money is priceless.


16 posted on 07/20/2014 8:42:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Some legislative patriotism in terms of taxation would also be helpful.


17 posted on 07/20/2014 8:43:49 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

American jobs will NEVER return until the libtard scum are removed OR people collectively pull their ignorant heads out of their backsides and figure out that overwhelming regulation, taxation, and other forms of socialistic government extortion are eliminated on the private sector.


18 posted on 07/20/2014 8:47:33 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: 353FMG

I completely agree.

All I am saying is, we need to look out for and to fight for, our own nation.

Someone needs to stand up for America.


19 posted on 07/20/2014 8:47:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You are missing the background and the CAUSE that makes companies leave the US.

Companies are being overtaxed and overregulated — and they couldn’t stay in business if they stayed in the US.

What you should be calling for is decreased regulations and taxes — THAT would bring back companies and jobs.

Currently Obama is considering to FORCE companies to stay in the US, which will result in them going out of business with even FEWER jobs left in the US.


20 posted on 07/20/2014 8:49:55 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Economic Patriotism ???

To me that phrase has the same ring as 'social justice' and 'environmental justice'.

How long till Economic Patriotism will be codified as in Atlas Shrugged ???

21 posted on 07/20/2014 8:54:46 AM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: whodathunkit

Don’t get me started in Atlas Shrugged.

We have already sent a huge section of American industry to a massive communist nation.

Don’t get me started. Don’t go there. I read Atlas Shrugged and believed in it, but the world is completely over Atlas Shrugged.

China is now the topic. China is taking over American industry.

That is the topic, not “Atlas Shrugged”.

That is so one generation ago. Going on two now.


22 posted on 07/20/2014 8:58:43 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think there’s a re-run of her show on the Fox Business Network later today. Maybe that will give you a clearer picture of “Economic Patriotism”.

I didn’t think you “misrepresented” what the show was about .. but I also wanted to challenge you because I heard it differently. I’m not offended, and you shouldn’t be.


23 posted on 07/20/2014 9:07:39 AM PDT by The Final Harvest (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Innovative
You are missing the background and the CAUSE that makes companies leave the US.

That would require thought on his part, instead of slogans.

Companies are being overtaxed and overregulated

He likes the regulations and taxes, otherwise he'd push for their repeal, instead of just slogans.

24 posted on 07/20/2014 9:08:25 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: mjp
As long as the basic environment of the country is anti-business, which inhibits profits and capital accumulation, with high taxes, too many regulations, hatred of the rich, budget deficits, government spending,and inflation...

Perhaps then economic patriotism can be explained as the repudiation of all that.

Economic patriotism is the desire to have the strongest economic growth and freedom possible for our country.

25 posted on 07/20/2014 9:08:54 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: CyberAnt

I’m just very glad, a major American news channel has a significant show, which dared mention this.

Our system is currently ... well it is messed up.

We need to bring back American industry. We need to begin talking about how. Now.

China is rapidly growing. We need to COMPETE. Not sell out to China. America needs to compete.

Competition does not involve sending our own industry to another nation.

America we need to re-focus on America.

That is a huge point. Nobody is doing so. That is a big, big problem.

I am very glad a show such as Maria’s dared to mention this.

More may follow.

Good job Maria. Very well done.


26 posted on 07/20/2014 9:12:45 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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In before, 'bring jobs back now. Just sayin.'.

Damn..too late.

27 posted on 07/20/2014 9:13:01 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>America needs to wake the heck up, and bring back American industry.<

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America will not wake up any time soon — it has invested in the dream industry (immigration) and it is living on borrowed time when it continues to allow the uncontrolled immigration of the West’s greatest enemy, Islam.

Only a calamity of national proportion will wake it up.


28 posted on 07/20/2014 9:14:53 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG
That calamity's power is nothing compared to just uttering mindless words.

Jobs will come back as long as we ask them too.

Like a dog, just whistle and a job returns.

29 posted on 07/20/2014 9:22:16 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.” - Ronald Reagan


30 posted on 07/20/2014 9:22:49 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Who are you asking to bring back American jobs....the government?

Government does not create jobs, private entrepreneurs create jobs....One can’t simply wave a magic wand and demand someone create a job.


31 posted on 07/20/2014 9:23:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Actually the president is the LAST person I want involved in this.

What I am saying is conservatives are completely absent on this topic.

WE are selling out our own nation. We need to stand up strongly for America.

How I don’t know. I have my own opinions, but I’m not as big on those as I am on bringing back jobs.

What I am strongly saying, is we need to do something.

Big. Right now.


32 posted on 07/20/2014 9:30:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Last Dakotan

Unfortunately, that quote has been proven wrong.


33 posted on 07/20/2014 9:31:58 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: jpsb

“How are the workers in Detroit going to pay your salary if you don’t buy the cars they make”?...35 years ago I quit buying American cars because the Unions wouldn’t pay my repairs, replacement costs or anything else associated with my American car. American cars suck. Period. The workers in Detroit NEVER paid my salary, either.


34 posted on 07/20/2014 9:49:12 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

I disagree.

I have bought American cars now for the last 10 years.

Absolutely zero problems. Not one.


35 posted on 07/20/2014 9:52:35 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
economic patriotism

What does that mean?

36 posted on 07/20/2014 10:05:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It is NOT patriotic to pay ridiculous tax rates. It is not conservative to run a business and lose money.


37 posted on 07/20/2014 10:06:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

So what I am saying is, as conservatives, it is our job to change that.

We are not supposed to build up Communist China.

We are supposed to build up America, to be the strongest darned nation in the world.

Build up America. But do it by making American businesses very profitable.

But ... and this is very important: focus on America.

Stop selling out our own nation!!!


38 posted on 07/20/2014 10:12:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
But do it by making American businesses very profitable.

How?

39 posted on 07/20/2014 10:13:27 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Eliminate corporate taxes. Eliminate business and capital gains taxes. Cut the federal busy bodies back to a stump. That should do it.


40 posted on 07/20/2014 10:21:55 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Nuc 1.1
So in other words, it is wasted breath(bring jobs back, now. Just sayin').

None of those will ever happen until after the SHTF.

41 posted on 07/20/2014 10:25:59 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Actually we need real patriotism. If we had that we would elect leaders with the interests and needs of American citizens in his heart.

Economic patriotism is leftist BS. It means that businesses are supposed to take huge hits for the progressive movement to look good.

No thanks.


42 posted on 07/20/2014 10:29:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest; Cringing Negativism Network
Economic patriotism is leftist BS.

EXACTLY!

Just because a person or political party claims to be conservative does not make them so.

I understand Cringing Negativism Network's frustration, but don't put the power to determine who is 'patriotic' and who isn't in the hands of the the ones who got us into this mess.

43 posted on 07/20/2014 10:42:30 AM PDT by whodathunkit
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I agree, but this requires a very, very thorough house cleaning in the RINO party. Will it happen.


44 posted on 07/20/2014 10:48:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Nuc 1.1; 1rudeboy
Eliminate Obamacare.

He likes that one though.

And I don't remember him EVER talking about rules, regulations or taxes he'd like removed.

Never saw him push for elimination of any government agency either.

I wonder if he's a concern troll?

45 posted on 07/20/2014 10:55:50 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Look you can strongly oppose me, but I’ll stand by my posting history.

Yes I came about one inch from being banned, precisely for the reason you mention.

The site owner, and a large portion of posters on this board, are members of a United States retirement plan of some sort, associated with the military.

I congratulate all of the members of that fine program. I understand that.

I will say, I am not the member of a United States military plan. I am (currently) a member of an insurance plan, associated with my employer. There is some concern on my part, that could at some point be at risk.

So I support Obamacare’s coverage. I admit that, and I understand that is a (strongly) minority stand on this board.

I don’t post about that.

I will not claim to oppose it, but I don’t post about it.

So please let it go. Thanks.


46 posted on 07/20/2014 11:04:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This starts with fiscal policy and law.

When the dollar is weak, foreign investments and products are more attractive.

Until we end the deficit problem we can’t attack the debt problem and therefore can’t properly address the dollar problem.

Imagine the strength of American currency and companies if we returned to being creditors rather than debtors...
I can dream can’t I?

We want the government to tighten their belts and make hard choices, but we continue to not make those same choices in our own lives. The more of us who buy, when we can, American, even at higher cost, the more competitive those companies will be in the long run. But without sound fiscal and monetary policy, those efforts are going to be minimized.

It’s two fold... speak with your economy, and speak with your votes.


47 posted on 07/20/2014 11:13:47 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: deadrock
So in other words, it is wasted breath(bring jobs back, now. Just sayin'). None of those will ever happen until after the SHTF. Sadly pretty much so as long as marxists run America. Apparently too many Americans need to learn the hard way that government (communists, marxists, socialists, whatever) cannot and will not ever create wealth. That is what business does. And business provides the need for workers, that is jobs.
48 posted on 07/20/2014 12:42:36 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Safetgiver

Then do not ask Americans to defend your rights, leave and good riddens.


49 posted on 07/20/2014 12:43:17 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I certainly would like to eliminate government agencies. But I haven’t seen any ability to do so in my lifetime. To do so would require a 60+ vote majority in the Senate. Unless of course we are willing to revise senate rules and get rid of the cr@p with majority vote. As far as I can see there is not enough testicular fortitude in “our guys” to do so. Still, one can hope.


50 posted on 07/20/2014 12:51:29 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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