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Meet the electric life forms that live on pure energy
New Scientist ^ | 7-16-2014 | Catherine Brahic

Posted on 07/21/2014 5:37:47 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Unlike any other life on Earth, these extraordinary bacteria use energy in its purest form – they eat and breathe electrons – and they are everywhere.

STICK an electrode in the ground, pump electrons down it, and they will come: living cells that eat electricity. We have known bacteria to survive on a variety of energy sources, but none as weird as this. Think of Frankenstein's monster, brought to life by galvanic energy, except these "electric bacteria" are very real and are popping up all over the place.

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Sounds like the beginnings of a horror movie.
1 posted on 07/21/2014 5:37:47 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

...or a Johnny Quest episode


2 posted on 07/21/2014 5:39:52 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Citizen Zed

Yeah. Next we teach them binary math, have them take over all functions normally being done by silicon, and...


3 posted on 07/21/2014 5:40:49 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Citizen Zed

Sounds like the beginnings of a horror movie. Or another AGW type scam to get funding to keep “scientists” flush with cash, because if we don’t study it, we’re all gonna DIE!


4 posted on 07/21/2014 5:45:34 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Midichlorians?


5 posted on 07/21/2014 5:46:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: null and void

and.... they take up residence in living neural organs which operate on....electrical impulses.


6 posted on 07/21/2014 5:46:31 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: null and void

I read somewhere that no matter where they drill nor how far they drill down they find bacteria. Could these be the little guys that make our gas and oil?


7 posted on 07/21/2014 5:49:09 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Citizen Zed

This is nuthin compared tp what Mrs. Obozo wants American kids to eat in her school lunch program.


8 posted on 07/21/2014 5:53:18 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Citizen Zed

I don’t know if buy any of this...


9 posted on 07/21/2014 5:55:35 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Citizen Zed

Reads more like the “new Scientist” hasn’t bothered to learn Maxwell’s Equations or even Googled the “Lorentz Force”.

There might be transfer of electromagnetic charge, but not necessarily mass transfer. Where mass transfer occurs, it is frequently associated with chemistry or even solid chemistry.

The energy level potential difference is what is associated with electric force (think Lorentz force), not the mass flow of electrons, except in ionic conduction. (and if the bacteria gained electrons, it would be losing energy, since they are negatively charged).

There do exist phenomenon such as biological corrosion, but a model of eating electrons misses the academic boat.


10 posted on 07/21/2014 6:03:57 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: RoadGumby

Yes!


11 posted on 07/21/2014 6:05:03 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Citizen Zed

Spock: Fascinating Captain, I must study this phenomena closely.
Kirk: what do you think, bones?
McCoy: dammit Jim, I’m a doctor- not an electrician!

CC


12 posted on 07/21/2014 6:27:39 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Actually right SiFi universe wrong series. The episode you want is “Galaxy's Child” STNG.
13 posted on 07/21/2014 6:36:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: babygene

“I don’t know if buy any of this...”

If you mix the bacteria with potato salad and spread it out on the road you can power all the electric cars with sunlight. And no one knows why it works.


14 posted on 07/21/2014 6:38:19 AM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: Celtic Conservative

15 posted on 07/21/2014 6:39:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: mad_as_he$$

It’s what I came up with on short notice, I just woke up. Besides I like McCoys perpetual grumpiness.

CC


16 posted on 07/21/2014 6:39:34 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: MrB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijAYN9zVnwg


17 posted on 07/21/2014 6:41:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Citizen Zed

Regular potato salad or german potato salad? these variables are important, you know!

CC


18 posted on 07/21/2014 6:43:26 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I understand.....


19 posted on 07/21/2014 6:44:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: MrB

Great, now I’ve got that stupid 80’s song stuck in my head! LOL.

CC


20 posted on 07/21/2014 6:46:23 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: thackney

21 posted on 07/21/2014 6:50:53 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Citizen Zed

New Scientist is not a credible for anything. Several months ago they published an article which claimed that humans were breathing too much oxygen. And we would all die as a result.

A ridiculous rag.


22 posted on 07/21/2014 6:52:37 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: MrB

23 posted on 07/21/2014 6:57:54 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Right up their with Chaka Kahn...

Now let THAT one stick in your head this morning!


24 posted on 07/21/2014 7:01:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Revelation 911

Forbidden Planet. Alta was H-O-T!


25 posted on 07/21/2014 7:12:18 AM PDT by enraged
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To: Cvengr

“There might be transfer of electromagnetic charge, but not necessarily mass transfer. Where mass transfer occurs, it is frequently associated with chemistry or even solid chemistry.”

So this e-microbe eats an electron. That would normally make said e-microbe more negative thus repelling it’s next snack. I suppose if the e-microbe’s biology included positrons, it could eat electrons and gain mass, but not much and only to the extent that it had positrons to spare.

And it still would require energy to run the process. Contrary to what the author might think, electrons are not energy.


26 posted on 07/21/2014 7:19:41 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Cvengr

Yeah the ‘science’ is so skewed that one suspects the author of the article is ‘science illiterate’.


27 posted on 07/21/2014 7:20:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: babygene

If it can take in an electron at a higher energy state and excrete it at a lower energy state, charge balance is maintained.

It sounds like the organism lives as the electrolyte of a biologic battery.

Basically all organisms live by using the power of electrons in a higher state and excreting them in a lower state but the chemistry is occurring within the cell walls instead of outside.


28 posted on 07/21/2014 7:46:18 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: Citizen Zed

This is a radical departure for bacteria. I would not be surprised if it were in another microorganism, not a bacteria, but belonging to its own domain of life, called Archaea, formerly known as “extremophiles”.

While they are microorganisms, they are actually closer to plants and animals (eukaryotes) than they are to bacteria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaea

“Archaea use more energy sources than eukaryotes: these range from organic compounds such as sugars, to ammonia, metal ions or even hydrogen gas. Salt-tolerant archaea (the Haloarchaea) use sunlight as an energy source, and other species of archaea fix carbon; however, unlike plants and cyanobacteria, no species of archaea does both.”


29 posted on 07/21/2014 8:35:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: dangerdoc

“If it can take in an electron at a higher energy state and excrete it at a lower energy state, charge balance is maintained.”

That statement is true so long as your talking about an electron that is already there. But if you add an electron from an external source (ie; eat it), the charge balance would not be not maintained.


30 posted on 07/21/2014 8:45:32 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene

Picture a wire, electrons enter one end as they leave the other. If there is nowhere for the electrons to move to, they don’t enter the wire. Probably the same for the bugs.


31 posted on 07/21/2014 8:58:12 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Not too different from what the mitochondria are doing in your cells. They collect electrons from some chemicals and use those electrons to power the formation of ATP, the fuel that the rest of the cell uses for power. Those electrons end up attached to Oxygen, the electron waste bucket of the body.


32 posted on 07/21/2014 9:02:07 AM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: fella

Someone is getting real warm.


33 posted on 07/21/2014 11:17:19 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: dangerdoc

“Picture a wire, electrons enter one end as they leave the other. If there is nowhere for the electrons to move to, they don’t enter the wire. Probably the same for the bugs.”

Electrons drift in the wire until the electric field is neutralized. If the “wire” is a chunk of doped silicon, electrons can enter one end and exit the other, however energy has to be added in the form of light.


34 posted on 07/21/2014 11:33:41 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: dangerdoc

Think of the electrons as doing the “WAVE”. The “WAVE” travels much faster than the electron.


35 posted on 07/21/2014 3:33:32 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

I’m more picturing a bucket brigade. The mitochondria have a series of proteins that hands the electron down the chain using a portion of the potential energy to do something. The first protein takes an electron and passes it down a chain, if the last guy quits taking buckets the whole chain stops.

I used the example of a wire because everybody is familiar with a wire. If you disconnect one end, the electron flow stops, same with a series of proteins that convert power from a flowing electron into useful chemical energy.


36 posted on 07/21/2014 4:44:52 PM PDT by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: dangerdoc

Electrons don’t flow in wires (small migration may occur, but not ionic conduction).

Electrical charge flows in wires.

Your Aluminum conductors in the high voltage lines don’t supply electrons to the copper conductors in your distribution system. We don’t see pileups of AlOxide or Copper Oxide on the buss bars. We observe electrical potential energy differences between buss bars.


37 posted on 07/21/2014 5:36:21 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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