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Romanian cave holds some of the oldest human footprints
Science News ^ | July 17, 2014 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 07/21/2014 9:29:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

About 400 footprints were first discovered in the cave in 1965. Scientists initially attributed the impressions to a man, woman and child who lived 10,000 to 15,000 years ago. But radiocarbon measurements of two cave bear bones excavated just below the footprints now indicate that Homo sapiens made these tracks around 36,500 years ago, say anthropologist David Webb of Kutztown University in Pennsylvania and his colleagues. Analyses of 51 footprints that remain — cave explorers and tourists have destroyed the rest — indicate that six or seven individuals, including at least one child, entered the cave after a flood had coated its floor with sandy mud, the researchers report July 7 in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology.

Published ages for other H. sapiens footprints in Europe and elsewhere go back no more than 33,000 years. At a 2011 conference, scientists said that H. sapiens tracks at Tanzania’s Engare Sero site were 120,000 years old. Those findings have not been published yet, suggesting to Webb a problem with dating or footprint authenticity. Nearly 1-million-year-old footprints of modern human ancestors were recently documented at a British site.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: footprints; godsgravesglyphs; romania
GOOD IMPRESSION Human footprints such as this, found in a Romanian cave almost 50 years ago, are much older than originally thought, dating to around 36,500 years ago, a new study finds

GOOD IMPRESSION  Human footprints such as this, found in a Romanian cave almost 50 years ago, are much older than originally thought, dating to around 36,500 years ago, a new study finds

1 posted on 07/21/2014 9:29:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/21/2014 9:30:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

That Romanian Princess captured running a gambling operation was old, but not THAT old.


3 posted on 07/21/2014 9:31:55 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am usually pretty good at spotting things but in this picture, I can’t spot footprints.


4 posted on 07/21/2014 9:37:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SunkenCiv

How can anything be older than 6,000 years old /s


5 posted on 07/21/2014 9:37:52 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Ditter

Ditter,

It’s one footprint - heel to the right, toes to the left.


6 posted on 07/21/2014 9:39:44 AM PDT by NRPM (America RIP 11/6/12)
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To: Ditter

There is one footprint in the photo, and it is clear as day.


7 posted on 07/21/2014 9:40:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ditter

There’s one print. Big toe is toward the lower left.


8 posted on 07/21/2014 9:41:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Photo of owner of footprint in 3..2..1


9 posted on 07/21/2014 9:44:00 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo
the person who made that footprint:


10 posted on 07/21/2014 9:55:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: SunkenCiv
Alleged 40,000-Year-Old Human Footprints In Mexico Much, Much Older Than Thought
11 posted on 07/21/2014 9:58:01 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

interesting


12 posted on 07/21/2014 9:58:22 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Mr. K

Well played, Sir!


13 posted on 07/21/2014 10:02:31 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: GraceG

;’)


14 posted on 07/21/2014 10:04:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

:’)


15 posted on 07/21/2014 10:04:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BulletBobCo

I hope you’ve learned your lesson. ;’)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3183067/posts?page=10#10


16 posted on 07/21/2014 10:05:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

...and I guess she dropped the compass in her haste to get into the cave. I can just barely read the print on it: “Made by Oog”


17 posted on 07/21/2014 10:10:34 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy
"I can just barely read the print on it: “Made by Oog”"

I doubt even Oog would make that!
Wait, are we still talking about Helen Thomas?

18 posted on 07/21/2014 10:20:57 AM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: SunkenCiv

I guess I’m slow because I can’t understand how dating the bear bones can tell you how old the footprints are. Even if you can date the material in which the footprint exists it still doesn’t tell you when the print was made. Just wondering.


19 posted on 07/21/2014 10:23:25 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: SunkenCiv

OK thanks, I was looking for something smaller.


20 posted on 07/21/2014 10:42:49 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Portcall24

The question I have is whether the bear bones show these bare-footed folks were contesting ownership of the cave with cave bears—and winning.


21 posted on 07/21/2014 11:25:45 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Portcall24

Before RC dating, stratigraphy was used exclusively. Since the bear bones were immediately below, using RC dating on the bones dates the strata in which they’re found, and the millimeters of debris on top of them is likely to have accumulated in a short period of time — not the over 10000 years that represents the difference between the old estimate and this RC date.


22 posted on 07/22/2014 4:02:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

OK. So they dated the bones located under the footprint. Why couldn’t the bones have been there for thousands of years before someone stepped into the debris. Thanks for your help and patience.


23 posted on 07/22/2014 4:46:36 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24

I explained that already, and I’m done with it.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 5:01:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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