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Why Tony Dungy wouldn't have drafted Michael Sam
SI ^ | July 21, 2014 | Doug Farrar

Posted on 07/21/2014 2:27:34 PM PDT by C19fan

"I wouldn’t have taken him. Not because I don’t believe Michael Sam should have a chance to play, but I wouldn’t want to deal with all of it.

“It’s not going to be totally smooth … things will happen.’’

That's what former NFL defensive back and head coach Tony Dungy told Ira Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune when asked about the prospects for rookie defensive end Michael Sam. Of course, Sam is the league's first openly gay player, and though many league executives and players may feel exactly that way, Dungy may feel the courage to speak to his own views more convincingly. He's a deeply religious man with a desire to evangelize and help others in his own way -- he's written several best-selling books about those beliefs, and he speaks publicly quite often, aside and apart from his current position as an NFL analyst for NBC Sports.

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TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: dungy; gay; homosexualagenda; nfl; sam
What are the Vegas odds NBC will discipline Dungy? Dungy is an outspoken Christian making him a target. Unfortunately his statement against Saint Sam might be the opening needed to get him off the airwaves.
1 posted on 07/21/2014 2:27:34 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Maybe they can hire Chris Klewe as their punter and Obama and Reggis will become season ticket holders.


2 posted on 07/21/2014 2:29:34 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: C19fan

The gay mafia is out in full force against Dungy. Absolutely absurd. Why would any team want to invite all of that attention for a guy who is a fringe player?


3 posted on 07/21/2014 2:30:29 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: C19fan

Wasn’t he also a seventh-rounder? Why bother—he’s not a standout on the field, clearly.


4 posted on 07/21/2014 2:32:19 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: cdga5for4; MinuteGal

NBC will be on the horns of a dilemma. Could they work up the courage to fire a black man because of a gay man? On the diversity scale, which holds more weight? I’ll bet they wish this would all just go away, lol. Funny, really.


5 posted on 07/21/2014 2:34:09 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: C19fan

I am good friends with Coach Dungy. We texted one another about an hour ago. He is, without question, one of, if not the finest person, I have ever met in my life. I wish I was much more like him from a character standpoint. Truly a remarkable human being. I’ve never met anyone like him.

I have been in tough situations with him and his faith and steadfastness is remarkable. He treats everyone with remarkable respect. I would defend Coach Dungy to death. This stuff just ticks me off.


6 posted on 07/21/2014 2:35:08 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: C19fan

Ah yes training camp has started, now it’s going to be All Michael Sam, All the Time.

Wake me up when the regular season starts and Sam is gone (although there’s no way the Rams can cut him now).


7 posted on 07/21/2014 2:35:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: flaglady47

Right now, gay many holds much more weight than black man.


8 posted on 07/21/2014 2:35:54 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: Pearls Before Swine

He was selected with a throwaway compensation pick, sixth from dead last in the draft.


9 posted on 07/21/2014 2:36:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dfwgator
Wake me up when the regular season starts and Sam is gone (although there’s no way the Rams can cut him now).

Goodell will never allow the Rams to cut Saint Sam this season. I am not sure if practice squad would be good enough for Goodell.

10 posted on 07/21/2014 2:39:23 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: cdga5for4

Thanks for your post, he’s always struck me as a fine man.


11 posted on 07/21/2014 2:39:33 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: cdga5for4

They say he didn’t raise his voice or swear when he was coaching. I’ve always liked him since hearing that.


12 posted on 07/21/2014 2:39:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dfwgator

What are the odds after he gets flushed that Sam winds up as an “analyst” commentator on network football broadcasts?


13 posted on 07/21/2014 2:39:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

Or the Democrats will groom him for a political career.


14 posted on 07/21/2014 2:40:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Moonman62

I still think since the Rams want to move from St Louis, the NFL made them an offer they couldn’t refuse.


15 posted on 07/21/2014 2:41:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Moonman62

When we were together recently someone asked him the last time he swore. He talked about a defensive huddle when he was a defensive coordinator for the Vikings being the last time he swore. It was hilarious. Tony doesn’t say it with any pride. That’s just who he is. Just a really special guy.

The thing that disappoints me is that he is sensitive and he will take these criticisms personally, even though he knows he didn’t do anything wrong.


16 posted on 07/21/2014 2:42:30 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: C19fan

Sports Illustrated’s nonstop coverage of all things homosexual ended my reading of their rag for good. It was just over the top with instructing athletes what they could not say, the fawning over the homo-izing of the Olympics, never ending.


17 posted on 07/21/2014 2:43:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: dfwgator

He’s from Texas, right? He can be in Abortion Barbie’s cabinet LOL


18 posted on 07/21/2014 2:44:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: cdga5for4

And if black man is a true Christian then that will wipe out all his black points anyway.


19 posted on 07/21/2014 2:50:14 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're yelling "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: cdga5for4

I was a Steeler draft choice in 1978, and while I didn’t get too far at all, I did have a chance to talk with Tony a couple times, and I couldn’t agree with you more.

Even as a young 20-something, he was a righteous man who had that certain specialness about him, and I was always happy to see him do well over the years.


20 posted on 07/21/2014 2:57:36 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: C19fan

Still think the Rams drafted Sam I Ram A Guy Between The Hams in a backroom deal to ease their plans for a future move.

My question on this now is once he does take the field, what happens to the other players whos job it will be to stop him. If the assignment is to block him and that involves knocking him into next week, will opposing players hesitate so they’re not being thought of as singling him out? Imagine if a player knocks Sam out of one or several games how much grief that guy is going to take for just playing football the way he’s supposed to. He’ll be branded a homophobe in the sports media and could lose his career by treating Sam as he would any other player.


21 posted on 07/21/2014 3:02:16 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: nascarnation
He’s from Texas, right?

Only two things come from Texas......

22 posted on 07/21/2014 3:03:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan
Unfortunately his statement against Saint Sam might be the opening needed to get him off the airwaves.

Truth- it's the new hate speech.

23 posted on 07/21/2014 3:04:22 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Truth- it’s the new hate speech.

I got that from a FR post, and would credit the author if I could remember who it was...


24 posted on 07/21/2014 3:05:45 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cdga5for4

Pro football is a blood sport. Literally.

AIDS is spread thru contact with tainted blood.

It’s only a matter of time until a normal player contracts AIDS thru the tainted, infected blood of a homosexual.

Imagine the wrongful death lawsuits that will follow - hundreds of millions that could threaten the existence of the NFL

PS: I posted this on PFT and they immediately removed it despite it was a factual based post.


25 posted on 07/21/2014 3:10:35 PM PDT by newfreep (at)
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To: cdga5for4

“The gay mafia is out in full force against Dungy.”

Then they are proving his point.


26 posted on 07/21/2014 3:11:01 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew

They have absolutely proved his point.


27 posted on 07/21/2014 3:12:08 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: C19fan

Agreed. After all of the dust up on this they’ll have to play him. I don’t see it ending well for most parties involved in this.


28 posted on 07/21/2014 3:12:50 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: cdga5for4

BTW, “Gay Mafia” takes on a literal meaning with Sams:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/michael-sam-boyfriend-mobster-grandpa-father-article-1.1789491


29 posted on 07/21/2014 3:14:54 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: C19fan

Assuming Michael Sam makes the team, the first time he sustains an especially hard hit, there will immediately be speculation that he was “targeted.”


30 posted on 07/21/2014 3:15:58 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: C19fan
However, there are times when Dungy's beliefs -- especially as a public figure -- have put him in hot water with some groups. In 2007, he accepted a "Friend of Family" award from the Indiana Family Institute, a conservative organization, while he was the head coach of the Colts.

What???? How dare he have deeply held beliefs! How dare he accept such an award!

31 posted on 07/21/2014 3:23:04 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

Just like a bank lending someone who can’t pay it back is ‘predatory lending’ and not lending to someone who can’t pay it back is ‘redlining’.


32 posted on 07/21/2014 3:23:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: C19fan

Dungy is a white man inside a black man’s skin.

Which would make him a racist.

Dungy is also a religious person, so, that makes him a homophobe.

Heck, he has to be an Uncle Tom, with all of his positions on the social issues.


33 posted on 07/21/2014 3:24:24 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: C19fan

Dungy just ended his tenure on Sunday Night Football.


34 posted on 07/21/2014 3:33:03 PM PDT by montag813
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To: C19fan

The thing is, you can discount religious motives from Dungy for the moment. Hire any openly gay person and you are setting yourself up for lots of high drama. It’s already there in Sam’s case and pushed by Sam. They aren’t called queens for nothing.


35 posted on 07/21/2014 4:01:30 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: C19fan
The firestorm over this innocuous comment, which was, basically, that there are going to be many firestorms over innocuous comments regarding Michael Sam, kind of proves Tony Dungy’s point.

Why do we twist ourselves in knots to accommodate 2% of the population?

36 posted on 07/21/2014 4:07:03 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: C19fan

After the miserable scores he put in at the combine I wouldn’t have drafted Sam either.


37 posted on 07/21/2014 4:10:28 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dfwgator
Only two things come from Texas......

And I don't see any horns on him.

38 posted on 07/21/2014 4:12:38 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: C19fan

God bless Tony Dungy. But he will get fired for not towing the official “I love homosexuals” line. One thing we know for certain he’ll not get a job at homosexual-loving, leftwing ESPN. Every announcer on that station would be right at home working for MSNBC.


39 posted on 07/21/2014 6:10:50 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: C19fan

Hasn’t Michael Sam already violated some league rules? Like selling his own merchandise and stuff?


40 posted on 07/21/2014 6:12:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cdga5for4

Right now, gay many holds much more weight than black man.

...a gay, seventh round draft white guy would be lower than a black guy...

...but a black gay guy is the sodomites wet dream, and one who enjoys making a spectacle of himself at that, is just icing on the cake, so to speak...


41 posted on 07/22/2014 5:32:27 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: montag813

Dungy just ended his tenure on Sunday Night Football.

...only if he also changed his skin color...


42 posted on 07/22/2014 5:39:29 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: IrishBrigade

...only if he also changed his skin color...

...and while we’re at it, we’ll all do well to remember that it won’t be long before any Caucasian presence on the field will be eliminated, at least in the NFL...maybe some coaches, but players need not apply...

...and the Democratic party will be airing ads on prime time TV, with the full approval of both the NFL and the FCC...


43 posted on 07/22/2014 5:46:08 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: C19fan

If I was gay, I’d be running for president. “You can’t vote against him, you homophobe.”


44 posted on 07/22/2014 7:10:00 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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