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Why Aren't There More Gay People?
The Federalist ^ | July 21, 2014 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 07/22/2014 4:41:56 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

I have a sensitive, inconvenient, and undoubtedly politically incorrect question: Why aren’t there more gay people?

I ask because there’s something confusing about our “culture war.” Given the prominence of the issue, you would expect homosexuality to be rampant in America. When asked to estimate how many gay people there are, most people guess that it’s on the order of 20% to 25% of the population. But yet another study has been released by the CDC giving a more scientific estimate, and it finds that almost 97 percent of Americans describe themselves as straight — the actual number who describes themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual is 2.3%. So the public’s perception is off by a whole order of magnitude.

It’s almost as if someone has been conspiring to elevate this issue way beyond its actual cultural significance. That is precisely what we find, and both sides are to blame.

For the moderate left, gay rights have to be magnified as a social issue because they want to keep alive the legacy of the civil rights movement. They know how much they gained by remaking the Democratic Party, the home of the old Dixiecrats, into the party that claims exclusive credit for the entire civil right movement—while smearing Republicans as racists. Their exaggeration of the culture war over homosexuality is partly an attempt find a new civil rights movement to fight over so they can maintain a manufactured moral high ground.

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KEYWORDS: gays; homosexualagenda; lesbians; unitedstates
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I am very troubled by the Left's war on our culture and have been for a long time. Even though I'm not religious, I consider homosexuality immoral and against the laws of nature. i.e., likes repel, opposites attract. I think we should do what Thomas Jefferson suggested in his Notes on the State of Virginia and castrate males who engage in sodomy and put a hole no less than one half inch in diameter through the noses of female sodomites. This would certainly stem the tide of the spread of sexually transmitted diseases throughout the gay community. If it was good enough for Jefferson, then it's good enough for me. I think it's beyond reprehensible that we are changing thousands of years of human culture for the benefit of a tiny fraction and immoral segment of our culture. I WILL FIGHT THE LEFT WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING UNTIL I'M DEAD./rwa
1 posted on 07/22/2014 4:41:56 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic
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To: right-wing agnostic

Because the lifestyle suck and is a pain the ass?

Just a guess...


2 posted on 07/22/2014 4:44:34 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: right-wing agnostic

if you were an alien race reading the earth’s media broadcasts to learn about us you’d come to the conclusion that earth was ruled by a magnificent collection of sexy black folks and magical, loving gays.


3 posted on 07/22/2014 4:52:03 AM PDT by equalator
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To: Vendome

So....the Left needs faggies in order to continue their culture war.

Order Captain Obvious to stop the presses!!


4 posted on 07/22/2014 4:52:37 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: All

“It’s almost as if someone has been conspiring to elevate this issue way beyond its actual cultural significance”

well that’s it exactly. the war is really against the white Christian male, and support for gays is just one more column that is enlisted to fight.
if you look at everything that is being pushed in our society in the prism of that war, it all starts to make sense.


5 posted on 07/22/2014 4:53:14 AM PDT by willywill
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To: equalator

>>if you were an alien race reading the earth’s media broadcasts to learn about us you’d come to the conclusion that earth was ruled by a magnificent collection of sexy black folks and magical, loving gays.<<

One look at moochele and they would discard the “sexy” part.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 4:53:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: right-wing agnostic

And the number of transgenders is probably in the tens of thousands. But that won’t stop the rest of society from being totally reshaped to accommodate them.


7 posted on 07/22/2014 4:54:25 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Vendome

Left solely to their own devices, their replenishment would require collaboration between Lesbians and Homos, i.e., have cross-sex resulting in children. That, being a confirmation of the natural order of things (e.g., it takes two different sexes to make a baby) is hypocritical in and of itself.

It is why they spend so much time and energy to change opinions, and more importantly, acceptance, so that they can infiltrate amongst our young and pervert them. As with any perversion, it ALWAYS escalates. Left unchecked, they will replenish themselves.


8 posted on 07/22/2014 4:55:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: right-wing agnostic

Because the “gay revolution” has nothing to do about gay people.

It’s about destroying Judo-Christianity.


9 posted on 07/22/2014 4:56:23 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Fido969

I’m pretty sure they’re fine with the judo


10 posted on 07/22/2014 5:01:44 AM PDT by equalator
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To: right-wing agnostic
Why aren't there more gay people? Please, gay people are all over the place! We even have a gay as POTUS!


11 posted on 07/22/2014 5:05:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

for the mentally stunted that were to stoned during high school biology...

homosexuality is not genetic. it cannot be. if it were, it would have long since died out as a trait since it cannot, by definition, be passed on.

homosexuality is, by definition, a behavioral issue.

about 2% of this country are radical, self loathing, deviants who, thankfully, have a life expectancy of only 42 years.


12 posted on 07/22/2014 5:08:27 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Jefferson was going easy on them. Castration was suggested as an alternative to sentencing them to death.

Either way - I agree. Clearly homosexual behavior (and any other form of abnormal, non-procreative sex) breeds disease. Removing the urge to perform such unnatural activities is an act of compassion. Love thy enemy. Castration would help protect the individual and society as a whole.

It is unfortunate that there isn’t such an easy solution to help the female sodomites.


13 posted on 07/22/2014 5:09:40 AM PDT by sipow
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To: right-wing agnostic

Because humans (like all animals) have a genetic drive to reproduce. you can only do that with the opposite gender. Even if a person doesn’t want to have kids, the base desire still draws us to at least want to be involved with the opposite gender in some way.

Homosexuality had always been a minuscule number of people that kept their activities off and out of sight. And for the most part, that worked out well enough. They knew what they were doing was really off the reservation, and they didnt make some effort to force people to accept it.

Gay activists today know that most people on their own would never want to be gay, that is why they are making this full-court press in movies, on tv, in books, and by criminalizing criticism of homosexuality to almost make it “cool” and more preferable to being normal. Look how edgy and alternative you will be! You can also claim instant victim status. Something really desirable to suburban white kids that desperately want to be in with other victim classes. They are using techniques used by pedophiles to coax kids into sexual situations by making it seem more normal, to make homosexuality to be the new cool subversion. The awesome way to stick it to your parents, stand out, and be popular.

That is the only way homosexuals can “reproduce” is through mental manipulation.


14 posted on 07/22/2014 5:10:51 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: right-wing agnostic

Being gay used to hold a certain secretive esoteric nature to it. Now that it is public, it’s no longer “different” or “unique”. The titillation factor is gone.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 5:11:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: right-wing agnostic
A conservative friend of mine recently noted to me how bizarre it will be a decade from now to find out that still just 2 percent of Americans are gay, ...

It will be interesting to see if this is an accurate prediction. If homosexuality is not a genetic fluke, but is influenced by environment, then it is entirely possible for the percentage of practitioners to increase.

Perhaps the number of people who say they are "gay" will remain constant, but the percentage who sometimes have anal sex with another guy will increase.

16 posted on 07/22/2014 5:12:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Saw a very illuminating post elsewhere recently: homosexuality is nature’s way of marking one for elimination from the gene pool.

When you look at it from a numbers standpoint, especially over the long-term, it’s a solid theory.


17 posted on 07/22/2014 5:13:20 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: right-wing agnostic
I think it's a great article. I've also wondered along these lines:

What strikes me is how invariant the number of homosexuals is. Over the past three or four decades, public awareness and acceptance of homosexuality has grown by leaps and bounds, yet none of this seems to have made any converts.

One would think so many more would be coming out of the closet but that's just not happening.

This is also a good point:

Let’s put it this way: which is a more important issue, a couple of hundred thousand gay marriages — or the millions of heterosexual couples who, for larger social reasons, are not getting married and not forming stable relationships, with all of the negative consequences for their own lives and the lives of their children?

So much more damage has been done to our society through no-fault divorce than could be done with a couple of guys pretending they are "married". If I could make marriage important again, culturally, in this country, I would. Letting some gays play house would act contrary to that but it would not destroy that important societal pillar by itself.

18 posted on 07/22/2014 5:20:26 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: right-wing agnostic
Why Aren't There More Gay People?

[sigh].....more people who slept through 10th. grade Biology


19 posted on 07/22/2014 5:20:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sipow

I watched a documentary (Though, I can’t recall the title) on a man who was a homosexual pedophile and decided to get castrated. He claimed to be much happier with his life after the castration.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 5:21:57 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo (You cannot protect a child from child abuse by aborting it. Abortion *is* child abuse.)
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To: right-wing agnostic
"For the moderate left,..."

"Moderate left" is an oxymoron - doesn't exist.

21 posted on 07/22/2014 5:22:29 AM PDT by newfreep (at)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Dead Enders reach the Dead End. Recruitment via pedophelia keeps the perversion alive to a fringe level.


22 posted on 07/22/2014 5:24:07 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: right-wing agnostic
If this is true:

"Hence one of the well-noted contradictions of the left: that marriage is only something to be celebrated when gay people do it. To these leftists, homosexuals are only interesting insofar as they can be used as an instrument of subversion."

Then

"Perhaps it’s time to spend a little less time worrying about gay marriage and more time worrying about plain old regular marriage, among other cultural disasters."

this statement doesn't make much sense. Worrying about gay marriage is worrying about plain old regular marriage because gay marriage is being used to subvert regular marriage.
23 posted on 07/22/2014 5:25:53 AM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: equalator

This country certainly is.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 5:30:01 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: chrisser; Mrs. Don-o
Worrying about gay marriage is worrying about plain old regular marriage ...

I agree. Homosexual "marriage" is sterile, rarely exclusive, and usually of short duration. These are pathologies of legitimate marriage, not beneficial elements.

As Mrs. Don-o says, heterosexuals invented gay marriage. Homosexuals' participation is a late, but surely reasonable, development.

25 posted on 07/22/2014 5:37:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

A man’s rear end cannot compare with what a woman has.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 5:45:54 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Shouldn’t the title be “Thank Goodness there aren’t more “gay” people”?


27 posted on 07/22/2014 5:53:32 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: chrisser

Exactly.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 5:59:36 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by it"s weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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... public awareness and acceptance of homosexuality has grown by leaps and bounds, yet none of this seems to have made any converts.

It's a big step, not taken lightly, and probably involves some bridge-burning.

29 posted on 07/22/2014 6:05:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Vendome

Reproduction, or lack thereof could be an issue.


30 posted on 07/22/2014 6:07:04 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: right-wing agnostic

To answer the headline; it is because homosexuality is not one of the more common mental illnesses.


31 posted on 07/22/2014 6:11:34 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Has Uncle Sam ran away with Lady Liberty?)
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To: Tax-chick

The data suggests that the number of people experimenting with homosexuality (bisexuals) has exploded 300%... but still is a small number (1.1% among young adults compared to .3% among middle-aged adults.) Either that, or most bisexuals go straight.


32 posted on 07/22/2014 6:13:13 AM PDT by dangus
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To: equalator

One thing I find particularly disturbing is the current effort to push the idea that gays are better at raising children than heterosexuals. I find that so strange that I cannot even think of a good comparison to any other strange idea. Certainly no homosexual couple, either male or female, can produce a child on their own so what on Earth would make anyone fantasize that they could do a better job of raising a child? I have even heard a married woman talk to a gay man about the idea that a gay man would make a great nanny. Sick, sick, sick. Anyone who harbors such notions should search on the name of Jesse Dirkhising but if you don’t already know the story be forewarned that you may need to have a large bucket handy when you do read it and you may suffer psychological damage. I am a man of mature years who has been through a considerable amount of pain in the past and survived but when first exposed to the story I literally wanted to cry like a baby.


33 posted on 07/22/2014 6:14:26 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Why Aren’t There More Gay People?

There aren’t any. HOMOSEXUAL, because there’s nothing GAY about it.


34 posted on 07/22/2014 6:22:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Homos are simply a weapon for the anti-Christian left.


35 posted on 07/22/2014 6:24:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: elcid1970
DUH
36 posted on 07/22/2014 6:28:22 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: right-wing agnostic

My son asked me why are there no more Unicorns? I said because they were gay.....


37 posted on 07/22/2014 6:29:28 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: right-wing agnostic

The number of people that have had a homosexual encounter is closer to 30%. Most don’t stick with it, but that is the number that is rising and that is a major public health concern. The study that showed 2% was a self-identification study, not a behavior study.


38 posted on 07/22/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: baddog 219

Unicorns & rainbows go so well together!

;^)


39 posted on 07/22/2014 6:55:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Vendome

LOL, can’t top that....won’t even try.


40 posted on 07/22/2014 6:57:28 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: right-wing agnostic

More people would be happy and carefree if they weren’t worried about their children eventually becoming the love objects of homos.


41 posted on 07/22/2014 6:58:04 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Just what is the real reason to disarm a law abiding citizen like me?)
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To: RipSawyer

The study you’re thinking of was conducted by a self-confessed homosexual who used faulty methods to obtain his desired result.


42 posted on 07/22/2014 7:01:14 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: wolfman23601

30% have experimented with it? Wow.

Could that be because our culture celebrates homosexuality so much, that people want to try it?


43 posted on 07/22/2014 7:01:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: wolfman23601

What do you describe as a “homosexual encounter”?


44 posted on 07/22/2014 7:02:32 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

The guy at the coffee shop served me coffee.


45 posted on 07/22/2014 7:03:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: equalator

if you were an alien race reading the earth’s media broadcasts to learn about us you’d come to the conclusion that earth was ruled by a magnificent collection of sexy black folks and magical, loving gays.

...don’t forget the snarky, domineering young females and their contempt for the 100% balding, overweight, and utterly helpless male counterparts, both husband and father...


46 posted on 07/22/2014 7:05:16 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: Vendome

Same reason there ain’t too many albino alligators? Mother Nature cures her own errors.


47 posted on 07/22/2014 7:07:16 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: right-wing agnostic

The natural order prefers heterosexuality. That is why heterosexuality is the norm in the Animal Kingdom which would otherwise face extinction.


48 posted on 07/22/2014 7:14:55 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Reproduction, or lack thereof could be an issue.

...as it is quite likely that many homosexuals are bi-sexual as well, reproduction, in the natural way, poses no issue for them...and if faced with extermination, any distaste for heterosex will be quickly swept aside, and the act consummated...

...a more useful study would be to determine the population of bisexual individuals, as these people would be more likely to have some lasting influence on the culture going forward, that was unavailable to them in times past...


49 posted on 07/22/2014 7:22:58 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: driftless2

Actually I was already aware of that but my concern is that some people are silly enough to believe that garbage, even some heterosexuals are idiot enough to swallow it (the story, that is).


50 posted on 07/22/2014 7:27:38 AM PDT by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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