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Here's The Insane Russian Theory That MH17 And MH370 Are The Same Plane
Business Insider ^ | 07/22/2014 | ELLEN KILLORAN, INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS TIMES

Posted on 07/22/2014 9:45:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

One of the more outrageous conspiracy theories about the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 surfaced in the days following the destruction of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 last week. The theory, which originated in Russia, holds that MH17 and MH370 are actually the same plane and that the U.S. military arranged for the second flight, filled with corpses, to be blown up over eastern Ukraine.

This theory was described in a widely read account in the New Republic on Sunday by Russian-American Jessica Ioffe, which argued that Russian civilians were being fed a uniformly skewed interpretation of the events that brought down the Malaysian airliner, killing 298 passengers and crew. While the sensational theory does not appear to be circulating among more legitimate news outlets in Russia, Russian television stations have reportedly been promoting a narrative that Ukraine and, to a lesser extent, the U.S. -- but definitely not Russia -- are responsible for the air disaster.

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s statement Sunday, which said the tragedy "could have been avoided if military operations had not resumed in eastern Ukraine,” reinforced the message that Russians were not to blame.  Meanwhile, U.S. military intelligence specialists remain firm in their assessment that a Russian-made missile brought down the aircraft.

“As the crisis surrounding the plane crash deepens and as calls for Vladimir Putin to act grow louder, it’s worth noting that they’re not really getting through to Putin’s subjects,” Ioffe wrote. “The picture of the catastrophe that the Russian people are seeing on their television screens is very different from that on screens in much of the rest of the world.”

Even with the understanding that most Russian television stations are controlled by the Kremlin, it can be difficult to fathom the type of media landscape described by articles like Ioffe’s.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: crimea; donetsk; mh17; mh370; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; vladtheimploder

1 posted on 07/22/2014 9:45:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Why didn’t they specify which publication carried this story?

Professional journalism would require they do so...


2 posted on 07/22/2014 9:49:58 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: SeekAndFind

From Business Insider?

I thought they were a serious news source. To even mention some tinfoil conspiracy crap like this is beneath them. Leave this stuff to the British tabloids.


3 posted on 07/22/2014 9:51:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

FWIW, I still believe flight 370 was accidentally shot down by the Chinese.......


4 posted on 07/22/2014 9:51:56 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is an outrageous claim, no doubt. But if anyone was evil enough to pull it off, it would King Obama.


5 posted on 07/22/2014 9:53:09 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The Russians and Chinese think we shot down MH370.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 9:53:30 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SeekAndFind
The Russians need a new PR spokesman....


7 posted on 07/22/2014 9:55:52 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Please.... They faked the working of the damned Olympic rings. You think they’ll report this accurately???


8 posted on 07/22/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well you see MH370 flew into a Bermuda Triangle type vacuum over the Indian ocean went into a time warp and just now exited as MH17.

The aliens did it.


9 posted on 07/22/2014 9:59:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind
I bet Casey Kasem’s corpse was on that flight too!!
10 posted on 07/22/2014 10:01:01 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

RE: I bet Casey Kasem’s corpse was on that flight too!!

Have they found his body yet/


11 posted on 07/22/2014 10:02:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: Mount Athos

You know how quickly stories in Russia come and go — just like witnesses.


12 posted on 07/22/2014 10:05:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SeekAndFind

I recently saw a Television program (probably old saw it on the internet) that had a plane with dead bodies they were going to blow up to fool people...can’t remember the name of it. The person who came up with this idea might have watched that show.


13 posted on 07/22/2014 10:10:17 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SeekAndFind
Even with the understanding that most Russian television stations are controlled by the Kremlin, it can be difficult to fathom the type of media landscape described by articles like Ioffe’s.

Dear Ellen:

Perhaps you have forgotten this-

Experts: Mystery contrail was from Chinese missile


14 posted on 07/22/2014 10:13:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: RummyChick

It was one of the new Sherlock Holmes episodes - I saw it, too, and it made me wonder...hmmm... especially with the photos of the luggage hardly charred - really, in a fireball, this is how the luggage ends up on the ground. Trust none of this baloney we are being fed.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 10:22:30 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin is spreading abject propoganda.

Some of the theories they are putting forth (like this one that it is actually MH370, or that a land attack aircraft like a Ukrainian SU-25 shot it down, or that Ukraine intentionally shot it down) are way out there in tin foil land.

The facts though are these:

The Russians have this surface to air missile system. The Ukranians have this same missile system from their days as a part of the Soviet Union.

It is a capable system that can certainly down high flying airliners.

Did the Russians put one of their systems in eastern Ukraine for the separatists/rebels to use? Very possible.

Did the separatists/rebels capture a Ukrainian system and use it? Also possible.

Remember, many eastern Ukrainian citizens are also verterans of the Urkainian military. They could find people who know how to operate the Ukrainian missiles.

So, we do not know which of the systems the separatists/rebels used...but it was certainly that type of SA-11 surface to air missile system that downed the aircraft.

Another very important fact...IMHO, the major responsibility for this horrible disaster has to fall on Malaysian Airlines.

They should never have flown such an aircraft over eastern Ukraine which everyone knows is embroiled in a civil war.

A civil war where the nation divided has the capability to down such aircraft (which means the separatists/rebels could have gotten it), and where the principle supporter of the separatists/rebels (Russia), also has the capability down such aircraft (which also means the separatists/rebels could have gotten it from them).

Crazy to the point of criminal nelgigence IMHO to fly that defenseless aircraft with all of those people on board over such an area.

This doe not absolve the separatists/rebels of all responsibility. But it does place the real owness where it belongs.

I do not believe thr separatists/rebels meant to shoot down a civilian airliner. I think they thought it was a cargo aircraft or, more likely, a surveillance aircraft, from Ukraine. So they shot it down. They are at war.

Probably did not have the proper capabilities to identify or communicate with and discriminate a civilan airliner transponder from a military IFF.

Anyhow, Putin has got thr Russian people behind him, and they are very good at using emotion and nationalistic fervor to gen up support of even some of these crasy theories.

For our part, we have a President who is dedicated to weakening America at every level.

He is not crazy. He is not imcompetant. He is doing exaclty as he has planned all along and using every opportunity to advance that cause.

When you understand this about the man...the rest all falls into place.

It is true that he is not engaged in what you or I would typically expect a US President and Commander in Chief to do.

But he never planned to do that. What he is engaged in is making the United States of America weaker across the board.

Economically
Internationally
Morally
Militarily
Energy wise
Soverignty wise (ie the border)
Traditionally
Educationally
Health wise

In every pssible way imaginable.

And..sadly, tragically...he is being VERY effective at it.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 10:31:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: SeekAndFind; Daffynition; Slings and Arrows
CNN and MSNBC could get behind this theory.


17 posted on 07/22/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, no fair! I beat them to that conspiracy theory — as soon as I heard about MH17, I said they should check hull numbers and serial numbers to see if there’s any connection between the two. ::sulking:: /s


18 posted on 07/22/2014 6:24:29 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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