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Suddenly, the sun is eerily quiet: Where did the sunspots go?
Los Angeles Times ^ | Jul 21, 2014 by | Deborah Netburn,

Posted on 07/22/2014 11:30:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin

A few weeks ago it was teeming with sunspots, as you would expect since we are supposed to be in the middle of solar maximum -- the time in the sun's 11-year cycle when it is the most active.

But now, there is hardly a sunspot in sight. If you look closely at the image above, taken on July 18 by NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, you will see a tiny smidge of brown just right of center where a small sunspot appears to be developing. But just one day before, there truly was nothing. It was a totally spotless day.

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"It all underlines that solar physicists really don't know what the heck is happening on the sun," Phillips said. "We just don't know how to predict the sun, that is the take away message of this event."

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And it's not like astronomers have never seen the sun this quiet before. Three years ago, on Aug. 14, 2011, it was completely free of sunspots. And, as Phillips points out, that year turned out to have relatively high solar activity overall with several X-class flares. So in that case, the spotless sun was just a "temporary intermission," as he writes on his website.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 07/22/2014 11:30:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Martha’s Vineyard?


2 posted on 07/22/2014 11:31:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: BenLurkin

Obviously this is my fault somehow. Where do I pay?


3 posted on 07/22/2014 11:32:12 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: BenLurkin

Global warming.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 11:33:30 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Vince Ferrer

“Obviously this is my fault somehow. Where do I pay?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/freepathon/index?tab=articles

:)


5 posted on 07/22/2014 11:36:01 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: BenLurkin

Apparently “teeming” in this case is another word for 3 or 4 very small spots. This has been one of the weakest sun cycles in recent history, and the next one appears as though it will be weaker yet (early indicators of the next cycle are already observable, as sun cycles start at the sun’s poles and progress towards the sun’s equator).

Given past history, there’s a pretty strong correlation between a weak solar cycle and a pronounced cold spell on the Earth. Lock in your propane/NatGas/heating oil price now (and do what you can to make sure your company will honor the price lock; a few years ago some companies unilaterally abrogated their price contracts and consumers ended up with no recourse), and put up an extra cord or two of wood now.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 11:46:27 PM PDT by Little Pig
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe it used Oil of Olay of something? That’s a thing, right?


7 posted on 07/22/2014 11:53:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: PastorBooks

It’s Bush’s fault


8 posted on 07/22/2014 11:57:56 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: BenLurkin

K2R. Gets ‘em every time.


9 posted on 07/23/2014 12:07:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: BenLurkin
"It all underlines that solar physicists really don't know what the heck is happening on the sun," Phillips said. "We just don't know how to predict the sun, that is the take away message of this event."

Well dammit, you guys best get cracking on that science stuff!

10 posted on 07/23/2014 12:08:09 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: BenLurkin
"It all underlines that solar physicists really don't know what the heck is happening on the sun," Phillips said. "We just don't know how to predict the sun, that is the take away message of this event."

But "global warming" is "settled science."

12 posted on 07/23/2014 12:13:09 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: BenLurkin

Luke 21:25


13 posted on 07/23/2014 12:18:54 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe he got sleepy...


14 posted on 07/23/2014 12:25:38 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: BenLurkin
"It all underlines that solar physicists really don't know what the heck is happening on the sun," Phillips said. "We just don't know how to predict the sun, that is the take away message of this event."

Dummy....if you don't know doesn't mean that there is not cause hidden in plain sight...

King Obama has it spotted....and will issue an Executive Order to the Sun....

"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow,and our planet began to heal.

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2020 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no coal fired electricity and GE modified seeds.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp

also

Expect crop production to drop like a stone with accompanying decline in the population.

Seems to me Obama lies about everything....

So guess what....he also lies about so called global warming.

15 posted on 07/23/2014 1:04:17 AM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: PastorBooks
The sun is having a global warming crisis with all the pollution on it.
16 posted on 07/23/2014 1:11:14 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: All

The recent solar history is quite similar to the “Dalton” minimum of the early 19th century. Note these analogues — regular strong cycles from about 1718 to 1787 similar to the period 1917 to 1989. The details do not match precisely but the overall history was similar. Then the 1787 cycle was long-lasting and had a secondary around 1794. The next peak was a “weak moderate” rather flat period from 1801 to 1804, similar to the 1999 to 2002 period. A long slow decline followed with about three years (1809-11) of nearly zero activity. That was similar to 2007-09. European weather was getting colder during these periods. Now we see the apparent end of a weak cycle, similar to the weak peak of 1816. That one combined with the massive dust veil of Tamboro to create an exceptionally cold year. We may avoid that around 2015-16 if there’s no similar volcanic event, but natural cooling continued beyond that dust veil’s life cycle well into the 1820s. From that point on, activity remained rather modest through a peak in 1829-30 and then resumed much stronger levels with the 1837-38 peak.

Another similar interval ran from 1870 to 1905, strong peak in 1870, weak in 1883 combined with Krakatoa’s dust veil, exceptional cold in North America through that decade, then more moderate-weak cycles in 1893 and 1905.

The idea that we will see another Maunder minimum could be overstated, many think it’s more likely to resemble the Dalton. Effects on climate are not that different, whenever the sun goes off the “regular strong” pulse, the climate seems to cool rather quickly. The reason is mainly due to less solar heat, despite the lack of sunspots which are relatively cool areas of the solar surface, the low-energy spotless sun has an overall lower ability to radiate heat and the “solar constant” drops off by several per cent.

My personal belief is that greenhouse gases are modifying this complex cycle and we’re going to be glad to have them insulating us from an even worse potential cold turn to our climate in coming years. Then maybe when the sun gets strong and regular again, we’ll be beyond fossil fuels anyway, that could be as early as 2025 or maybe as late as 2045 based on the analogues. Time will tell.


17 posted on 07/23/2014 1:34:28 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Clinton v Jeb Bush -- just shoot me now)
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To: BenLurkin

18 posted on 07/23/2014 2:32:46 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Peter ODonnell

Good, interesting posting.


19 posted on 07/23/2014 2:55:04 AM PDT by octex
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To: PastorBooks

‘Global warming.’

This called global warning, according to the Bible.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 3:28:54 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: BenLurkin

I thought we were in the cycle of solar inactivity........thus the colder weather. I think the author is wrong......


21 posted on 07/23/2014 3:31:42 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: Peter ODonnell

So.........sunspots cause volcanos.

Just kidding!


22 posted on 07/23/2014 5:16:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Actually the opposite.


23 posted on 07/23/2014 5:19:27 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Peter ODonnell
Sunspot levels are a rough indicator of the strength of the solar magnetic field. The solar magnetic field deflects extrasolar cosmic rays. A weak solar field allows more cosmic rays to hit the earth.

Danish physicist Henrik Svensmark (professor in the Division of Solar System Physics at the Danish National Space Institute) has a theory that increased cosmic rays hitting the upper atmosphere create more ions, which act as nuclei for cloud formation. More clouds equal more sunlight being reflected, and lower temperatures.

A layman's summary of the theory is here

24 posted on 07/23/2014 5:33:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: BenLurkin

Shot down by the Russians?


25 posted on 07/23/2014 5:34:46 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: The Cajun
Follow the link if you want to know what is happening and what to expect

http://www.landscheidt.info/?q=node/50

26 posted on 07/23/2014 5:35:51 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: BenLurkin
So.........sunspots cause volcanos. Just kidding!

Actually, if the solar magnetic field is shifting, and there's any degree of coupling with the earth's magnetic field, I could see physical effects happening as a result (earthquakes, volcanoes).

Any physicists on the thread care to chime in?

27 posted on 07/23/2014 5:36:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: BillM
Hey, thanks for that link, a world of data to digest there.

Have bookmarked the site and plan to do some reading.

28 posted on 07/23/2014 6:17:16 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: MaxMax
Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

Please don't compare Canute and Obama.

King Canute did this demonstration to prove his point that, although he was a King, he had no power over the elements, and that only God could control them.

29 posted on 07/23/2014 6:17:22 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Little Pig

Our firewood supplier has a lower supply then usual. Orders in early June were quoted as deliverable by 8/1. That is now extended to 9/1. Reason: Amish source has less than usual, due to less business and Amish source also sells retail firewood.

Our propane supplier hasn’t offered either *summer fill* prices or a locked-in price for years, now. Last year, during the shortage, the price changed daily. Most of us are still paying off winter bills.

For those who switched to electric heat, the cost per KwH increases slowly, but the *facility fee*, the cost of service before any usage at all, increases steadily, month by month. Fees and taxes also increase steadily, albeit in small increments (which add up over time, of course).

Friends in town report high natural gas costs. $350-$500 month combined heat/electric bills are common. The $350 is for a small house turned into a business. The $500 is for a large Victorian, but only two people live there and when they went on a 2-week vacation, the bill barely budged.

The State Media abounds with articles telling us how being cold and sleeping cold both contribute to weight loss.

There is no escape.


30 posted on 07/23/2014 6:20:45 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Hot Tabasco

We’re roughly at sun cycle max just now.

http://www.spaceweather.com

It’s unusual to have spotless days at cyclemax.


31 posted on 07/23/2014 6:21:26 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Hot Tabasco

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/SolarCycle/f10.gif

Not sunspots, but a proxy of cycle strength as well.

If the weather is colder at cyclemax, imagine what it will be in 5-6 years when we’re at a cyclemin again.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 6:22:52 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Peter ODonnell
"My personal belief is that greenhouse gases are modifying this complex cycle and we’re going to be glad to have them insulating us from an even worse potential cold turn to our climate in coming years. Then maybe when the sun gets strong and regular again, we’ll be beyond fossil fuels anyway, that could be as early as 2025 or maybe as late as 2045 based on the analogues. Time will tell."

Good, optimistic thinking.

33 posted on 07/23/2014 6:51:55 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Any warmth from green house CO2 gas density could be countered by all the black box project the Euroweenies and US have been doing to intentionally cool the planet.


34 posted on 07/23/2014 10:56:47 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Little Pig

It’s pretty cool for July in Chicago. 65 degrees right now.


35 posted on 07/23/2014 7:44:08 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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