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ESPN’s Wilbon: Influence..‘Religious Right’ in Footb' Preventing Players from Accepting Michael Sam
National Review Online ^ | July 23, 2014 | Andrew Johnson

Posted on 07/23/2014 9:59:57 AM PDT by C19fan

The NFL hasn’t been sufficiently accepting of Michael Sam, who came out as the first openly gay professional football player earlier this year, due to the religious Right’s influence in NFL locker rooms, says one ESPN commentator.

On Tuesday, Pardon the Interruption’s Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon were discussing former NFL coach Tony Dungy’s recent comments that media attention would have pushed him away from drafting Sam. Kornheiser said he was optimistic that NFL players would be personally tolerant of Sam, though.

“I’m more skeptical,” Wilbon countered. “I think there is a component, a subculture of the religious Right, that is very influential in football — maybe not the other sports, but football — and I don’t see this going as smoothly as you see it.”​


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: boycottdisney; corporateliberalism; espn; gay; gaydisney; homofascism; nfl; sam; waronreligion
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It looks like it is open season on people of faith at ESPN. I was listening to ESPN Radio at 6-7 pm Eastern time. The host had on former NBA and openly gay player John Amaechi (he came out post-NBA). Amaechi said the following:

1: People of faith are irrational, he did use the term irrational, because they follow a book. 2: He accused Dungy of being a homophobe and bigot. Amaechi claimed Dungy and others who have used the term "distraction" when discussing Michael Sam are using the term to hide behind their bigotry. He called Dungy a coward.

I have heard Amaechi before and yes his comments in the past are on par with what he said. He is about a self-righteous conceited arrogant anti-religious bigot.

1 posted on 07/23/2014 9:59:57 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

He says that like it’s a bad thing.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 10:01:44 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: C19fan

So a member of a minority of less than 1.6% has superior rights to rest of the community.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 10:03:29 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: C19fan

Oh, poor baby. Michael Sam should be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame immediately. If not the NFL should be sued. /s


4 posted on 07/23/2014 10:03:48 AM PDT by forgotten man
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To: C19fan

I am a homophobe and proud of it.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 10:04:24 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: C19fan

You’re welcome, Mr. Wilbon.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 10:05:22 AM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: forgotten man

They should give Sam the Vince Lombardi Trophy, even if the Rams don’t win the Super Bowl.


7 posted on 07/23/2014 10:06:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan
the religious Right’s influence in NFL locker rooms

I thought "the religious Right" meant political involvement - not everyone who thinks the Bible means what it says.

8 posted on 07/23/2014 10:06:07 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

You’re scared of humans?


9 posted on 07/23/2014 10:06:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: C19fan

“.....because they follow a book”

Oh the irony! What does he follow? Animal instincts? Every law we have in this country is written in a book. Including the one that says we’re not allowed to discriminate against Sodomites. Should we follow those books or not? The goal has always been to deconstruct western culture’s meta-narrative (the Bible) and replace it with the whims of the cultural elites.


10 posted on 07/23/2014 10:06:28 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: circlecity

Can I make an observation? How can we say the NFL has not been accepting enough? The season hasn’t started. They haven’t even played any exhibition games yet. We don’t know yet how he will be accepted because they haven’t played yet. WhT am I missing

I have to believe that management has told everyone to play nice with him. I would be shocked to see any overt discrimination against him.


11 posted on 07/23/2014 10:06:29 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: C19fan
The NFL hasn’t been sufficiently accepting of Michael Sam, who came out as the first openly gay professional football player earlier this year, due to the religious Right’s influence in NFL locker rooms, says one ESPN commentator.

I thought his supporters claimed Tebow got black listed because of he was too obviously Christian for the NFL. Now his supporters are saying Sam isn't being accepted because all the Christians in the NFL?

12 posted on 07/23/2014 10:07:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Any attempt to block Sam will be a 15-yard penalty for unnecessary roughness.


13 posted on 07/23/2014 10:07:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan

Dungy stating the obvious is hardly being a coward. A coward would simply say nothing or make a PC statement.


14 posted on 07/23/2014 10:07:44 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: C19fan
I thought Dungy's comments were weak tea.

He was basically arguing that while he himself was presumably totally OK with Sam, others who were not as "enlightened" as he is could cause problems about Sam, so he wouldn't have drafted Sam for that reason.

Now we all know that moral degeneracy has not been a bar to participation in the National Felons League for some time now, so Dungy should have the courage of his convictions.

15 posted on 07/23/2014 10:08:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"I would be shocked to see any overt discrimination against him."

To the contrary. Overwhelming pressure will be put on the Rams not to cut him even he turns out to be the total stiff he appeared to be at the scouting combine. I think that was a big part of Dungy's concern - it will be darn near impossible to cut him in his first three years or so.

16 posted on 07/23/2014 10:09:11 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: C19fan
I think there is a component, a subculture of the religious Right, so this isn't based on fact but some individual who want to reinforce the link between the support of gay people with rejection of Christianity

rather than worrying about how the Christians will handle the gay, the larger question should be why gays are disparaging Christian players

17 posted on 07/23/2014 10:10:02 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: circlecity
These people are nuts.

Sams is a very late round draft pick whom probably does not have the talent to be playing in the NFL.

He is a rookie who has not even made it through training camp, much less warmed the bench in and NFL game. Sams is being treated like a rookie and Rookies always get treated like rookies , that’s just the way it is.

Sams is a man with a Diva complex who expects to be treated like a cross between Payton Manning, President Obama and Liberace .

The guy may not even make the cut through training camp.

18 posted on 07/23/2014 10:11:08 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: C19fan
I guess the correct answer to any question from the media about Michael Sam is "In an effort to spare everyone from your phony moral outrage...my answer is whatever you want my answer to be".

Puke.

19 posted on 07/23/2014 10:12:11 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Resolute Conservative

Never allow the opposition any traction by accepting their label. I’m not personally or unreasonably afraid (that’s the base meaning of a phobia - unreasoned fear) of any homosexual or their perversion - I’m concerned for what the country will become because of accepting that perversion as normal. That’s what must be opposed, IMO.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 10:13:25 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: circlecity
You nailed it. This "open declaration" of his homosexuality is an insurance policy not to be cut from the team. Sam was a seventh round draft choice despite being all-SEC.

The Oprah supported reality show on Sam was canceled. Sam was trying to cash in on his new found fame.

They like to compare Sam to Jackie Robinson. Robinson was a Hall of Famer with tremendous talent. Sam isn't in the same league, no pun intended. Any criticism of Sam will be viewed as homophobic.

21 posted on 07/23/2014 10:15:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: C19fan

I say give him the Heisman Trophy right now. He’s going to get it anyway even if he spends his whole career on the bench.

Lets get rid of the whole pretense of ability having anything to do with anything.


22 posted on 07/23/2014 10:16:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: circlecity

Is there a big “gay” community in St. Louis to come out and buy tickets???

It would be a public relations headache for them to cut him.

The untold story here is that lots of guys get drafted but get cut in training camp. Just getting drafted doesn’t mean a player will for sure make the team. If that happens to Sam, the liberals will have their hissy fit and generate tons of bad publicity for the Rams and the NFL.


23 posted on 07/23/2014 10:17:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: circlecity

Which team is the one team in the NFL that wants to move?

That’s why the Rams drafted Sam.


24 posted on 07/23/2014 10:17:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Is there a big “gay” community in St. Louis to come out and buy tickets???

In St Louis, the Rams are "dead team walking"....They know their move from St Louis is inevitable.

25 posted on 07/23/2014 10:19:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mountainlion

Dugy’s black. That means that a member of a minority of less than 1.6% has superior rights to a member of a minority of less than 15%.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 10:20:43 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: C19fan

Funny, the same people who are condemning Dungy had no problem with Tebow being labeled a distraction by several teams due to his faith and following.

Dungy’s sin is he has made a statement that could be construed as not being totally sold out to the homo agenda. No hint of dissent can be tolerated in the name of toleration.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 10:22:25 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“If that happens to Sam, the liberals will have their hissy fit and generate tons of bad publicity for the Rams and the NFL.”

Well-put. But I think the Rams know that they risk a firestorm by cutting him - and they won’t. They don’t want to take the bloom off the rose, so to speak, for being the team that drafted the first openly gay college player.

If he’s not playing well, he’ll ride the bench. But at the same time, if they don’t play him, they’ll receive criticism that Sam is not getting playing time because he’s gay.

The Rams really stepped in it on this one. Their only way out is to hope that Sam actually develops into a good player in the NFL.


28 posted on 07/23/2014 10:23:16 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: C19fan

I have heard Amaechi before and yes his comments in the past are on par with what he said. He is about a self-righteous conceited arrogant anti-religious bigot.

...wonder how he got along with Sandusky at PSU...


29 posted on 07/23/2014 10:25:15 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, just suspicious, hence why I stay home or carry when out and about.


30 posted on 07/23/2014 10:27:49 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

“I am a homophobe and proud of it.”

The word ‘homophobe’ is a misnomer.

Several years ago some department at LSU did a study and found that heterosexual men were not actually ‘homophobic’.

The heterosexual men were disgusted by homosexuals because of the deviant behavior in public and the things that homosexuals do to each other.

They could have saved the money that they spent on this ‘study’ if they had asked me. That is the thought that I have held for my entire life. Homosexuals are simply disgusting, period. There is no ‘phobia’ involved.


31 posted on 07/23/2014 10:28:33 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; cripplecreek

You won’t see overt offinse. But, when he comes back from the first “scrum & dog-pile”, he will start beating the “I’ve been offended” drum.

Even if a 3rd-string tackle late in the game calls him “nancy-boy”...the media and NFL will be “all in”. That will translate to the “locker-room” and his perception of “subtle slights and offense” that will be equivalent to “He snapped everyone else’s ass with a towel but not mine! He’s a bigot!”

Dungy’s right, this will not end well.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 10:28:42 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: T-Bird45

Correct I am not afraid of anything (per se), they just disgust me and I am overly tired of PC bull excrement in all its forms.


33 posted on 07/23/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Yes, see my 33.


34 posted on 07/23/2014 10:30:17 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Homo = human, phobe = denoting a person having a fear or dislike of what is specified.


35 posted on 07/23/2014 10:31:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes I was being flippant.


36 posted on 07/23/2014 10:33:27 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: dfwgator

They know their move from St Louis is inevitable.

...to where...?


37 posted on 07/23/2014 10:33:54 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: IrishBrigade

Ironically, maybe LA where they came from.


38 posted on 07/23/2014 10:37:28 AM PDT by John W (Summer of Recovery VI: This Time We're Serious)
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To: C19fan
ESPN’s Wilbon: Influence..‘Religious Right’ in Footb' Preventing Players from Accepting Michael Sam,

No, it's because Sam is an annoying bug eyed, carp faced, no talent whiner.

Being gay doesn't help is game play and his ugly, "just got rear-ended" look that's plastered all over the sports shows doesn't help either.

People like ass kickers, not ass takers.

39 posted on 07/23/2014 10:39:38 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: IrishBrigade

Back to Los Angeles is the speculation.


40 posted on 07/23/2014 10:40:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: C19fan

Wilson joins the Liberal bigots against Bible believing Christians. ESPN should fire him for his anti-Christian bias.


41 posted on 07/23/2014 10:40:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: dragonblustar

I’m guessing he’ll have a lucrative career as a sportscaster after he washes out of the NFL. Probably college game analyst on ESPN.


42 posted on 07/23/2014 10:41:34 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation

I predict the Democrats will groom him for a political career.


43 posted on 07/23/2014 10:43:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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I’m guessing he’ll have a lucrative career as a sportscaster after he washes out of the NFL. Probably college game analyst on ESPN.

His mafiosi boyfriend will make them an offer they can't refuse.

44 posted on 07/23/2014 10:43:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

There’s only one problem for the NFL if they ever fill that LA slot with a team.

Since 1995, they’ve used the threat of relocating to LA to blackmail taxpayers in a couple dozen cities to fund palatial NFL stadiums.


45 posted on 07/23/2014 10:44:23 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“I have to believe that management has told everyone to play nice with him. I would be shocked to see any overt discrimination against him.”

So, when the faggie footballer strides into the showers & everyone in there immediately gets the h*** out, will that be considered a hate crime?


46 posted on 07/23/2014 10:45:03 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: nascarnation

I think that’s pretty much now run its’ course.


47 posted on 07/23/2014 10:46:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Does this wilbon fool expect everyone to kiss this guy in the shower?


48 posted on 07/23/2014 10:52:13 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen
Does this wilbon fool expect everyone to kiss this guy in the shower?

Methinks he's projecting.

49 posted on 07/23/2014 10:52:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: All

The funny thing is that gays probably don’t even think about this stuff this much and they probably don’t care what others think as much as these self proclaimed arbiters of social righteousness..


50 posted on 07/23/2014 10:54:57 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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