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U.S. marines confront 'fake sergeant major'
Daily Mail ^ | 7/23/14 | McCormack

Posted on 07/23/2014 12:46:32 PM PDT by pabianice

An explosive video posted online on Sunday shows two U.S. Marines confronting a man who they accuse of impersonating a military veteran at a funeral in Florida.

The Marines first suspected the man was likely an imposer because his uniform featured a mix of mismatched medals and ribbons.

After the service they approached the man, who identified himself as a ‘sergeant major’. His name badge states his surname as Davis.

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You have to watch the video. The guy's "uniform" is hilariously screwed-up. The Marines have more patience that I would have.


1 posted on 07/23/2014 12:46:32 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

That POS looks like a corn-fed bag of ass...


2 posted on 07/23/2014 12:49:30 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: pabianice

I think one was marine, the other army, haven’t heard it in a few days


3 posted on 07/23/2014 12:49:44 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: pabianice
I just watched it here on youtube
4 posted on 07/23/2014 12:51:07 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: pabianice

He looks like an SOB (Son of Obama).


5 posted on 07/23/2014 12:51:32 PM PDT by Sparklite
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To: pabianice

One of the best ways to weed out fake “vets” is just ask what their MOS was. Anyone who has been in the service for a day can answer instantly. 99% of fakes won’t have a clue.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 12:52:46 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: pabianice

Marines should have done a little “dental work” on this guy.


7 posted on 07/23/2014 12:53:15 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: pabianice

Reminds me of the cover of an old Beatles record.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 12:54:26 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: pabianice

NCO wearing officer U.S. and branch insignia.


9 posted on 07/23/2014 12:55:32 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Hugin

“One of the best ways to weed out fake “vets” is just ask what their MOS was.”

I suppose. I’d have to answer “at what time”?

Do remember 11 B and later 19C, but there were a bunch in the middle.


10 posted on 07/23/2014 12:58:11 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Hugin

Aif Force would be AFSC...


11 posted on 07/23/2014 12:58:59 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: pabianice

Ribbons and medals together, LOL.


12 posted on 07/23/2014 12:59:08 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Antoninus II

AIR!


13 posted on 07/23/2014 12:59:19 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: pabianice

Now if Congress would only do that to Obama.


14 posted on 07/23/2014 12:59:58 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: pabianice

15 posted on 07/23/2014 1:00:12 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Hugin

One of the best ways to weed out fake “vets” is just ask what their MOS was. Anyone who has been in the service for a day can answer instantly. 99% of fakes won’t have a clue.


That’s right. There are a lot of ways to weed them out.

This jive punk was obviously fake.


16 posted on 07/23/2014 1:00:20 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Antoninus II
Aif Force would be AFSC...

Thanks!

Former Army 19K/19D/09S (OCS) 35D/35E

What is the Navy/USMC equivalent?

17 posted on 07/23/2014 1:01:41 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: pabianice

Yep, this guy isn’t even close. That’s one jacked up set up.


18 posted on 07/23/2014 1:01:42 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: pabianice

I read on another website in the comments some guy said he knew him, said he’s a headcase who constantly does stuff like this, not only making pretend he’s a Marine, but a doctor and a lawyer. He’s been arrested multiple times but being that we live under a lib justice system of course he’s back out on the street.


19 posted on 07/23/2014 1:02:37 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: pabianice

Dressed like a tinpot dictator. Missing the mirrored sunglasses, tho. Incredibly inarticulate for his ‘rank’ and decorations he claims to have


20 posted on 07/23/2014 1:02:50 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: pabianice; xzins
Here is a better, front on pic:

Just a quick scans shows the following errors:

Officer branch insignia
Officer US insignia
Wearing medals with ribbons.
Purple Heart shown as lowest precedence on ribbon rack. (They are all out of order anyway)
Wearing rank on beret
Name plate not properly centered.
Unit award not aligned properly.

Wearing a Bronze Star, Silver Star and a Purple Heart?

Yeah. This guy needs some serious wall to wall counseling.

21 posted on 07/23/2014 1:03:19 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: AU72

“Ribbons and medals together, LOL.”

I know! That’s a dead giveaway that he wasn’t actual military.


22 posted on 07/23/2014 1:03:34 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: TomServo

Is that Idi? If so, he’s probably pointing to the guy whose liver he wants for dinner!


23 posted on 07/23/2014 1:04:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: pabianice

0bama’s son in the military. Humiliation is better than a whoopin’


24 posted on 07/23/2014 1:04:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Hugin

I love how Chis Plante handles these cretins on his show. XD


25 posted on 07/23/2014 1:05:11 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: pabianice

For one thing, he's wearing officer's lapel insignia, not enlisted. And you don't normally wear both ribbons and medals, IIRC. Then there's no regimental crest above his nametag and on and on...

26 posted on 07/23/2014 1:05:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Gamecock

“Wearing rank on beret”

Hahaha. Didn’t even notice that. Good Lord!


27 posted on 07/23/2014 1:05:28 PM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Sparklite
He looks like an SOB (Son of Obama).

Lizzie Warren's SecDef.

28 posted on 07/23/2014 1:05:37 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: laplata
My favorite quote: "A REAL CSM wouldn't be walking away".

Yep! First of all a real CSM/SGM wouldn't look like a soup sandwich in uniform. Second, not only would he know his MOS and AR-670-1, but could probably cite the most current edition and page number.

Also, when asked who the CO was, he could go about ten chains of command above and below him, probably with their DSN telephone numbers. You don't make E-8 or E-9 in any branch/service being "low-drag".

29 posted on 07/23/2014 1:05:40 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: pabianice

I don’t get it! I mean, you can look up, online, every branch, their uniform regulations, proper ribbon/medal order, and just about anything else...so, why can’t these fakes do a better job?!?

He had a better chance of impersonating Michelle Obama, than ANY military NCO, much less an Army Sergeant Major!!!

These people’s lives are so insignificant that they must attempt to steal glory from those who have actually put their lives on the line and time in the suck!

They need to have some much needed dental and rhinoplasty work done!!


30 posted on 07/23/2014 1:06:21 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Here is the actual YouTube video showing what the situation is with this guy.

http://youtu.be/DKtjBqJ4NxA


31 posted on 07/23/2014 1:07:06 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: pabianice

I saw the video via an earlier thread.

Be forewarned there is a language warning.

Both a real Marine and the fake dude drop F-bombs near the end.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 1:07:29 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: pabianice
How about the most infamous fake, Roni De Joseph that libs used as their Viet vet poster boy? To this day they deny he was a fraud.

"This is Roni De Joseph of Brooklyn, one of the infamous wannabe Vietnam veterans embraced by and perpetuated by the US main stream media in order to portray veterans of America's longest war as cringing, crying, jungle fatigue-wearing losers.

De Joseph never spent a day in uniform, let alone in the Third Mar Div., let alone in Vietnam or combat.

Because he fit perfectly the leftist media stereotype, this picture flashed around the world, and though he was exposed as a fraud, the photo still shows up in publications and on the Internet."

http://leatherneckm31.typepad.com/leatherneckm31/2007/07/scott-thomas-ht.html

33 posted on 07/23/2014 1:07:55 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; Hugin

96B, don’t think they call it that anymore, though. Think it’s 35F now.


34 posted on 07/23/2014 1:08:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Gamecock

Two of the top four are ROTC medals.


35 posted on 07/23/2014 1:08:26 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

Exactly!

Sloppy POS.

Too bad there wasn’t a CSM there.

I never saw a CSM who didn’t look like a CSM. LOL


36 posted on 07/23/2014 1:10:22 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Gamecock

In addition to your list, he has awards which can only be awarded for combat (CIB, Silver Star, etc) but no Combat Service Identification Badge. Surprised he didn’t work an MP brassard into the mix....


37 posted on 07/23/2014 1:10:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Surprised he didn’t work an MP brassard into the mix....

It was out, being washed, along with his MOH!
38 posted on 07/23/2014 1:12:04 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: DCBryan1; laplata

This is who he's stealing from. Yes, Spec. 6's get the medal of honor.

39 posted on 07/23/2014 1:12:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

In the video he said he was both an MP and Special Forces - a real Army of one !


40 posted on 07/23/2014 1:16:01 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Negotiating with Democrats is like negotiating with Hamas)
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To: pabianice

He does look like Wesley Snipes.

41 posted on 07/23/2014 1:17:03 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: TomServo
He, at least, was .... uhhhh .... legitimately ... awarded all those medals by his country's government ...

[ snicker ... ]

42 posted on 07/23/2014 1:18:05 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: 11th_VA
Who was the freeper that ran into a wannabe and asked him: "What is your MOS?"

The wannabe relied with some fake MOS, and the Freeper said, "Cool, so you were a space shuttle door gunner?!"
and the fake nodded "YES!"

....Captured on video too. Circa 2008. Hilarious!

43 posted on 07/23/2014 1:18:41 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: DCBryan1

That was a long time ago for me, was wondering what they were.

Total dirt bag.


44 posted on 07/23/2014 1:19:08 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Reminds me of Eddie Murphy in Trading Places.


45 posted on 07/23/2014 1:19:43 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Joe 6-pack

Good catch.

I was so overwhelmed by everything else that was wrong I missed that one.


46 posted on 07/23/2014 1:20:13 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Exposing De Joseph [hopefully] labeled him forever. It's too bad the faking of veteran status and lying about service experiences didn't stick on the lying and despicable Dan Rather.

September 15, 2004, 5:52 a.m.
The First Rathergate
The CBS anchor’s precarious relationship with the truth.

By Anne Morse

Critics are calling the media scandal over the Jerry Killian forgeries "Rathergate." But to thousands of Vietnam veterans, the real Rathergate took place 16 years ago when Dan Rather successfully foisted a fraud onto the American people. Then, unlike now, there was no blogosphere to expose him.

On June 2, 1988, CBS aired an hour-long special titled CBS Reports: The Wall Within, which CBS trumpeted as the "rebirth of the TV documentary." It purported to tell the true story of Vietnam through the eyes of six of the men who fought there. And what terrible stories they had to tell.

"I think I was one of the highest trained, underpaid, eighteen-cent-an-hour assassins ever put together by a team of people who knew exactly what they were looking for," said Steve Southards, a Navy SEAL who told Rather he had escaped society to live in the forests of Washington state. Under Rather's gentle coaxing, Southards described slaughtering Vietnamese civilians, making his work appear to be that of the North Vietnamese. "You're telling me that you went into the village, killed people, burned part of the village, then made it appear that the other side had done this?" Rather asked. "Yeah," Steve replied. "It was kill VC, and I was good at what I did." Steve arrived home "in a straitjacket, addicted to alcohol and drugs" knowing that "combat had made him different," Rather intoned. "He asked for help; that's unusual, many vets don't. They hold back until they explode."

Rather then moved on to suicidal veteran named George Grule, who was stationed on the aircraft carrier Ticonderoga off the coast of Vietnam during a secret mission. Grule described the horror of watching a friend walk into the spinning propeller of a plane, which chopped him to pieces and sprayed Grule with his blood. The memory of this trauma left Grule, like Steve, unable to function in normal society.

Neither could Mikal Rice, who broke down as he described a grenade attack at Cam Ranh Bay, which blew in half the body of a buddy, "Sergeant Call." "He died in my arms," Rice tearfully recalled. Rice described how the sound of thunder and cars backfiring would regularly trigger his terrible memories.

Most horrific of all were the memories of Terry Bradley, a "fighting sergeant" who told Rather he had skinned alive 50 Vietnamese men, women, and children in one hour and stacked their bodies in piles. "Could you do this for one hour of your life, you stack up every way a body could be mangled, up into a body, an arm, a tit, an eyeball . . . Imagine us over there for a year and doing it intensely," Bradley said. "That is sick." "You've got to be angry about it," Rather replied. "I'm suicidal about it," Bradley responded. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, drug abuse, alcoholism, joblessness, homelessness, suicidal thoughts: These tattered warriors suffered from them all. The The Wall Within was hailed by critics who — like the Washington Post's Tom Shales — gushed that the documentary was "extraordinarily powerful." There was just one problem: Almost none of it was true.

The truth was uncovered by B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran and author of Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and its History (with Glenna Whitley). Burkett discovered that only one of the vets had actually served in combat. Steve Southards, who'd claimed to be a 16-year-old Navy SEAL assassin, had actually served as an equipment repairman stationed far from combat. Later transferred to Subic Bay in the Philippines, Steve spent most of his time in the brig for repeatedly going AWOL.

And George Gruel, who claimed he was traumatized by the sight of his friend being chopped to pieces by a propeller? Navy records reveal that a propeller accident did take place on the Ticonderoga when Gruel was aboard — but that he wasn't around when it happened. During Gruel's tour, the ship had been converted to an antisubmarine warfare carrier which operated, not on "secret mission" along the Vietnam coast, but on training missions off the California coastline. Nevertheless, Burkett notes, Gruel receives $1,952 a month from the Veterans Administration for "psychological trauma" related to an event he only heard about.

Mikal Rice — the anguished vet who claimed to have cradled his dying buddy in his arms — actually spent his tour as a guard with an MP company at Cam Ranh Bay. He never saw combat. Neither did Terry Bradley, who was not the "fighting sergeant" he'd claimed to be. Instead, military records reveal he served as an ammo handler in the 25th Infantry Division and spent nearly a year in the stockade for being AWOL. That's good news for the hundreds of Vietnamese civilians Bradley claimed to have slaughtered. But it doesn't say much for Dan Rather's credibility.

As Burkett notes, the records of all of these vets were easily checkable through Freedom of Information Act requests of their military records — something Rather and his producers simply didn't bother to do. They accepted at face value the lurid tales of atrocities committed in Vietnam and the stories of criminal behavior, drug addiction, and despair at home.

Perhaps that's because this is what they wanted to believe. Says Burkett: The Wall Within "precisely fit what Americans have grown to believe about the Vietnam War and its veterans: They routinely committed war crimes. They came home from an immoral war traumatized, vilified, then pitied. Jobless, homeless, addicted, suicidal, they remain afflicted by inner conflicts, stranded on the fringes of society."

Burkett, who did check the records of the vets Rather interviewed, shared his discoveries with CBS. So did Thomas Turnage, then administrator of the Veterans Administration, who was appalled by Rather's use of bogus statistics on the rates of suicide, homelessness, and mental illness among Vietnam veterans — statistics that can also be easily checked. Rather initially refused to comment, and CBS spokeswoman Kim Akhtar said, "The producers stand behind their story. They had enough proof of who they are." For his part, CBS president Howard Stringer defended the network with irrelevancies. "Your criticisms were not shared by a vast majority of our viewers," he sniffed, adding that "CBS News and its affiliates received acclaim from most quarters . . . In sum, this was a broadcast of which we at CBS News and I personally am proud. There are no apologies to make."

Sarah Lee Pilley, who ran a restaurant in Colville, Washington where the CBS crew dined while filming The Wall Within, would not agree. The wife of a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who saw combat in Vietnam, Pilley, said she "got the distinct feeling that CBS had a story they had decided on before they left New York." After interviewing 87 Vietnam veterans, CBS chose the "four or five saddest cases to put on the film," Pilley said. "The factual part of it didn't seem to matter as long as they captured the high drama and emotion that these few individuals offered. We felt all along that CBS committed tremendous exploitation of some very sick individuals."

Why would Dan Rather do such a thing? Partly because the stories of deranged, trip-wire vets is much more dramatic than the true story: That most Vietnam veterans came home to live normal, productive, happy lives. Second, Rather apparently wanted the story of whacked-out Vietnam veterans to be true — just as he now wants the Jerry Killian story to be true.

Or maybe — despite a preponderance of the evidence — he considered the sources of these tales of Vietnam atrocities "unimpeachable." As angry Vietnam veterans began calling CBS to complain about the factual inaccuracies of The Wall Within, Perry Wolff, the executive producer who wrote the documentary, claimed that "No one has attacked us on the facts." Despite the growing evidence that he'd been had, Rather also continued to defend the documentary — which is now part of CBS's video history series on the Vietnam War.

Perhaps Vietnam veterans ought to take a page out of the book of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and air television ads exposing Rather's deceits — something along the lines of: "Dan Rather lied about his Vietnam documentary. I know. I was there. I saw what happened. When the chips were down, you could not count on Dan Rather."

Certainly, we cannot count on him for the truth. During a 1993 speech to the Radio and Television News Directors Association, Rather criticized his colleagues for competing with entertainment shows for "dead bodies, mayhem, and lurid tales." "We should all be ashamed of what we have and have not done, measured against what we could do," Rather said.

47 posted on 07/23/2014 1:25:34 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: pabianice

So, what was he up to? Scam to get donations or grift the widow? Just a nut being all he can be?


48 posted on 07/23/2014 1:27:21 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: JDoutrider

Can you believe this POS with no MOS would even dress up and go out in public like this?


49 posted on 07/23/2014 1:27:28 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: pabianice

Later it was announced that the imposter required sargeant major surgery.


50 posted on 07/23/2014 1:28:56 PM PDT by IronJack
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