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California man, 80, guns down pregnant home invader: ‘I shot her twice, she best be dead’
NY Daily News ^ | 7/24/14 | BY SASHA GOLDSTEIN

Posted on 07/24/2014 7:44:31 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

California man, 80, guns down pregnant home invader: ‘I shot her twice, she best be dead’ Tom Greer killed the woman after she and a man jumped him and robbed his Long Beach house Tuesday night. The couple fled after he showed his revolver, but the woman was killed as she tried to run away. BY SASHA GOLDSTEIN

They came to the wrong house.

An 80-year-old California retiree shot dead a pregnant woman as she and a male accomplice tried to flee Tuesday night after breaking in and robbing the man’s home in Long Beach.

And Tom Greer has no regrets about plugging the woman with two shots as she begged for her life.

“She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby!' And I shot her anyway," Greer told KNBC-TV.

The elderly man, wearing his arm in a sling Wednesday as he spoke to a reporter, said he came back to his house in the ritzy Bixby Knolls neighborhood Tuesday evening and found the woman and a man ransacking his home.

"When I went in there, they tackled me," Greer told the news station. "Both of them jumped up on top of me."

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Probably the only time liberals will be against abortion.
1 posted on 07/24/2014 7:44:31 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Tom should shut up until he gets a lawyer.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 7:46:35 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
And Tom Greer has no regrets about plugging the woman with two shots as she begged for her life.

Ultra stupid statement and action even if true. He'll end up losing his home over this at least.

3 posted on 07/24/2014 7:47:54 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: headstamp 2

I love a happy ending, but your right he needs to SHUT UP NOW.


4 posted on 07/24/2014 7:48:02 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
shooting someone running away from you is a bad idea (in the eyes of most liberal judges), unless you are sure they are going to get a weapon or friends.
5 posted on 07/24/2014 7:48:28 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I would have liked to have also heard that his TWO mean German Shepherds or Dobermans had attacked, mauled and EATEN her.

Am I just A BIT over the top with that??

6 posted on 07/24/2014 7:49:06 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: headstamp 2

You’re right but in his defense he stopped another generation of scum.


7 posted on 07/24/2014 7:49:13 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Vigilanteman

& his home is a nice one! I know that area well...
He should’ve stayed quiet..


8 posted on 07/24/2014 7:49:37 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Bad shoot.


9 posted on 07/24/2014 7:50:12 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

‘Don’t shoot me, I’m pregnant! I’m going to have a baby!’

Let’s see what the autopsy says..........even if she was, B&E is still B&E.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 7:51:26 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“She says, ‘Don’t shoot me, I’m pregnant! I’m going to have a baby!’ And I shot her anyway,” Greer told KNBC-TV.


This guy needs a big heapin’ helpin’ of some STFU


11 posted on 07/24/2014 7:52:06 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: headstamp 2

Agreed. California? No stand your ground or castle laws I bet. That poor guy will probably be up on murder charges. He needs to lawyer up and shut up.


12 posted on 07/24/2014 7:52:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Be interesting to how the libs out there will handle this one.


13 posted on 07/24/2014 7:54:23 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
If he did this in NJ he would spend the rest of his life in prison. As it is he probably still will.

I recall when I moved into my house, my Friend who is a state trooper told me if someone broke into my home, make sure I don't shoot them in the back.

14 posted on 07/24/2014 7:54:23 AM PDT by mware
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To: freedomlover

Shoot and STFU.


15 posted on 07/24/2014 7:54:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: freedomlover

That does not sound believable. Who would say something that stupid and incriminate themselves. I’d like to interview the old man and the reporter separately and see what, if any, footage they have of him saying this. Otherwise I’d be inclined to believe that a liberal reporter put words in his mouth.


16 posted on 07/24/2014 7:55:07 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

likely to be prosecuted but a temporary insanity defense should work after getting the crap stomped out of him by the two thugs.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 7:55:22 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

From the article:

“her accomplice remains on the lam.”

LOL, Sasha has been reading too many 1950s detective novels.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 7:55:38 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The couple fled after he showed his revolver, but the woman was killed as she tried to run away.

And Tom Greer has no regrets about plugging the woman with two shots as she begged for her life.


He really screwed up. He could justify shooting “Baby Daddy” if he came back but the she-thug surrended and is still an object of sympathy.

His life is pretty much over.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 7:55:54 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: mware

Oh he also added if they are outside when you shot them, drag them back into the house.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 7:56:01 AM PDT by mware
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Oh he also added if they are outside when you shot them, drag them back into the house.

Then he's an idiot. Modern forensics will bring that to light in a hurry.

21 posted on 07/24/2014 7:58:19 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: drypowder

Guilty! One-dollar fine, he can mail it in.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 7:58:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Was she pregnant? The article only mentioned it 4 times.


23 posted on 07/24/2014 7:58:47 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: jsanders2001

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/national-international/Long-Beach-Homeowner-Shoots-Kills-Intruder—268364152.html

Video of him saying it - should’ve kicked the press off his property & refused to talk..


24 posted on 07/24/2014 7:59:49 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You are wrong on CA law but does not apply when you follow them out to the alley


25 posted on 07/24/2014 8:01:06 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: jsanders2001

Here’s the link to the interview...

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Long-Beach-Homeowner-Shoots-Kills-Intruder—268364152.html

I’m sure that Long Beach police would very much have preferred the man STFU too.


26 posted on 07/24/2014 8:02:04 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yep, her family will sue and he will be out on the street at 80 years old which will basically be a death sentence for him. Too many examples of people screwing themselves after they defend themselves. Probably the worst example being Bernard Goetz in New York city who turned himself in and opened his mouth when it was very unlikely he would have been caught. He ended up owing $43 MILLION to one of his muggers.


27 posted on 07/24/2014 8:03:53 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

While I am not defending the woman who was shot, I do think this one goes beyond self defense (assuming, of course, that the actual facts are as presented). If you pull a gun, and the assailant flees, you are NOT justified in shooting at that point. If he had shot while being tackled by the assailants, that’s a different story. If the assailant is fleeing, there’s no longer a threat to his life or well-being, so shooting seems to be an act of retribution, not one of self defense.


28 posted on 07/24/2014 8:04:54 AM PDT by stremba
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To: rainee

There’s a lady in the background who should’ve grabbed him & threw him in the car!
He also talks about the 1000’s of $$ he keeps in his safe..ughh


29 posted on 07/24/2014 8:05:54 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby!' And I shot her anyway," Greer told KNBC-TV.

"I come back and they see me with a gun, and they run," he told the NBC affiliate.

The man took off but the woman stumbled in an alley behind the home. She pleaded for her life as Greer took aim and fired.

I'm not defending these thugs, but as others have said, this guy needs to shut up and find a good lawyer. Along with his statements, the fact that he shot her outside in the alley after they fled the house is not going to help his case.

30 posted on 07/24/2014 8:07:16 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: rainee

yet more proof that the press is never your friend


31 posted on 07/24/2014 8:07:41 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: stremba

Yes, basically he screwed himself big time by opening his mouth. This reminds me of that case last year of the guy who shot the two teen who broke into his house. He opened his mouth, said he was setting a trap, shot them before they made any threat blah blah, he even tape recorded it while he shot them. Now he’s doing life in prison, freakin idiot.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/29/minnesota-homeowner-kills-teens/8480047/


32 posted on 07/24/2014 8:08:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

In the end, I’ll bet he wishes he just let them finish robbing him. We all have something to learn from his folly: STFU


33 posted on 07/24/2014 8:10:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Arab Spring is over. Welcome to the Jihadi Spring." Jonah Goldberg)
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To: eyeamok; headstamp 2

Don’t Talk to Police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc


34 posted on 07/24/2014 8:12:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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“She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby!' And I shot her anyway,"

as much as I'm for air conditioning bad guys in the act, I would have a difficult time ventilating a visibly pregnant woman, who is pleading for her life......not to even mention she had her back to him

stick a fork in the geezer

This is cold on several levels

35 posted on 07/24/2014 8:13:29 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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Tom should shut up until he gets a lawyer.

A bit late for that. Since he he shot them while fleeing then whatever Castle Law-like protections are available in California most likely just went out the window. If they were fleeing then any threat to his life was past. Expect some level of murder charge within a days.

36 posted on 07/24/2014 8:13:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Oh he also added if they are outside when you shot them, drag them back into the house.

Unbelievably bad advice. Besides being immoral, any decent crime scene investigator will be able to see what you did. Then you're in a world of difficulty, even more than before.

37 posted on 07/24/2014 8:14:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: stremba

You can shoot to protect your property under certain circumstances here in Texas, especially at night.I don’t believe many other states have these provisions, though, and I’d be surprised if California does.


38 posted on 07/24/2014 8:15:00 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Should have shot her in the house. No problem whatsoever with that. Chasing her down and shooting her in the back is murder. I’d charge him in a heartbeat.


39 posted on 07/24/2014 8:16:02 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

So he cold blooded killed a woman who was pregnant? This guy seems like he needs to die in prison. He didn’t kill her because he was in danger. They were running away. What sicko is going to defend this guy?


40 posted on 07/24/2014 8:16:33 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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She should have thought about her unborn child before deciding to rob somebody’s house.


41 posted on 07/24/2014 8:17:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: V_TWIN

Yep. I see jail and bankruptcy in his future.


42 posted on 07/24/2014 8:18:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: drypowder

Yep. He needs a lawyer and a head injury, or a little onset-of-dementia going on there.


43 posted on 07/24/2014 8:19:30 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
He said far too much. He probably will get charged.

The home invaders had already earned a death penalty, by any means necessary. Too bad one of them got away.

44 posted on 07/24/2014 8:19:45 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

She-thug got just what she deserved. Too bad the dude got away. He needed a bullet too.


45 posted on 07/24/2014 8:20:23 AM PDT by greene66
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I do think this one goes beyond self defense

If the facts are as presented in the article, then the old man murdered that woman. She was shot when she stumbled in an alley as she tried to flee.

Yep, that's murder.

46 posted on 07/24/2014 8:20:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

This guy’s is toast. They flee, she begs for her life, and he shoots her anyway even though she’s not a threat? I’d convict him just for his own stupidity and lack of self-control. Enemy soldiers get better treatment than that.


47 posted on 07/24/2014 8:20:55 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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He murdered her. Shot her as she ran and begged for her life.


48 posted on 07/24/2014 8:21:45 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
This guy is a civil attorney's dream.

Putting this interview on a flatscreen in a courtroom = free money.

49 posted on 07/24/2014 8:22:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Seven words, that’s all you have to say, “I was in fear for my life.”

THAT’S IT!!!!


50 posted on 07/24/2014 8:22:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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