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Pasta Bugs: Why Are There Insects In American Food?
Vanity ^ | 07/24/2013 | jespasinthru

Posted on 07/24/2014 7:16:39 PM PDT by jespasinthru

Has this ever happened to you? You go to a clean, modern American supermarket and buy some boxes of pasta. You store some of them in you cupboard. And when you cook it, little black bugs are floating in the water. They look like fleas, except that they have snouts. Very gross. And by putting boxes of them in your cupboard, you have now infested your kitchen with them. I was so mad that I e-mailed the company, a popular national brand, and gave them a piece of my mind. I even e-mailed them a close-up photo of the bug in question. I received an apologetic letter from the company. They informed me that these things are called grain weevils, and they are very prevalent in the commercial farms of Kansas, Nebraska, Idaho and Iowa. The company is reluctant to overuse pesticides, and they reject GMO crops because of public outcry. So some of these bugs make it into the processing plants and past quality control, and consumers find them in their boxes of pasta. I've been married for five months, and when I discussed it with my husband he was very pragmatic about it: "Just rinse the pasta before you cook it. If any bugs get past the rinsing, just cook 'em. The heat will kill any bacteria, and bugs do have a bit of protein in them. It's a sin to throw away good food." He's into lateral thinking, which is one of the reasons why I love him. A week later I got a fat envelope in the mail. The pasta company sent me coupons for twenty free boxes of the same buggy crap. Like I'd ever put their product in my kitchen again. I went to a huge Lutheran church in my town that gives out lots of free food to the poor and homeless, and explained the situation to them. To my surprise, the pastor and his administrators were familiar with the pasta bug problem. They were happy to accept those 20 free coupons that I got in the mail. Has this ever happened to you?


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1 posted on 07/24/2014 7:16:40 PM PDT by jespasinthru
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To: jespasinthru

Paragraphs are your friend.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 7:18:22 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jespasinthru

Check out the accepted number of insect fragments that are allowed by the FDA in canned food. Canned tomatoes for instance.

Happy eating!


3 posted on 07/24/2014 7:19:49 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: jespasinthru
Because unless you irradiate food there will be bugs and other fun items in your pantry items.

It is rare but it happens.

Toss the pasta and cook something else.

4 posted on 07/24/2014 7:20:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: jespasinthru

Similar things have happened here; although not a scientist or a student of food, processing, or packaging, I have the sneaking suspicion that, on the microscopic level, at least, there’s a lot of cr*p in our food we never see.

Cook it well.

And, yes, it’s a significant problem in these days of planned long-term storage in anticipation of future need.


5 posted on 07/24/2014 7:20:50 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: prairiebreeze

yup, had a gal friend once whose summer job it was to do lab things like count insect legs and body fragments in mmmm-mmmm-good soup.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 7:21:45 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: jespasinthru

Yes it happened to me twice in 40 years. Threw it out checked rest of cupboard then purchased a fresh box from different store. I always look before I cook and rotate by home stored products.


7 posted on 07/24/2014 7:23:07 PM PDT by Pilated
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To: jespasinthru
No. I have never given coupons to Lutheran churches, even if they were big ;-)

More seriously, I have never seen these bugs before. You should have used the coupons.

8 posted on 07/24/2014 7:23:48 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: jjotto

Paragraphs take up too much space, especially when you are thinking and typing at the same time.


9 posted on 07/24/2014 7:23:56 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: jespasinthru

This is minor. If you think our food is pristine as sold, think again. Just look at FDA guidelines for foodstuffs and what adulterants are allowed. There is now way to have a completely bug-free, hair-free and pest-free food chain. Short of growing it yourself, the stuff will always be there. My mother was the best cook ever, but I always somehow managed to find a hair in my food—it was her hair. Still alive.......


10 posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:02 PM PDT by Fungi (And the feckless one thinks he knows everything--think again.)
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To: jespasinthru

Keep all flour and pastas in the freezer for 30 days at 0 degrees to kill the bug eggs.


11 posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:36 PM PDT by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
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To: jespasinthru
Has this ever happened to you?

You mean the bugs or throwing away coupons for free food?

No and no.

12 posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:40 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Can anyone tell me who the head of the Muslim peace movement is?)
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To: jjotto
Paragraphs are your friend.

WHAT a nice way to put it. :o)

13 posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:58 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Jack Hammer
"And, yes, it’s a significant problem in these days of planned long-term storage in anticipation of future need."

Freeze the item for a couple weeks before storing.

14 posted on 07/24/2014 7:26:40 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: jespasinthru
Sorry to tell you this, but grain is graded by the rat feces content, and it all has some rat feces in it.
15 posted on 07/24/2014 7:27:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: jespasinthru

PROTEIN.


16 posted on 07/24/2014 7:27:46 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: jespasinthru

Yes, happened to me with a box of spaghetti while living overseas and shopping at a military base commissary.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 7:28:09 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: jespasinthru

Up`n here we`uns go berryin` about this time of yaer up on ye mountain, `n we jest pick them berries, them blackcaps n black rasberries, yummy, bugs n all n eatem bugs`n all, to make sure them berries `n bugs is ripe,whilst we is pickin`.

You`ll city slickers is scared of bugs in pastas?

Heck you ain`t lived until you`ve mouth `n swallowed a crunchy raw leafhopper.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 7:28:36 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits n firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: jespasinthru
If you freeze the pasta for a few days it's not an issue. I store most
in the freezer before bagging up and storing in the pantry.


Because if you don't you get the main parasite outbreak in your belly!


19 posted on 07/24/2014 7:29:04 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: jespasinthru
The Indialmeal Moth is what I have trouble with.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 7:29:44 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: prairiebreeze

The euphemism used by the FDA for that is “insect parts per million”. Don’t google for photos unless you’re planning on going on a diet.

CC


21 posted on 07/24/2014 7:30:08 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: jespasinthru
Cicadas are a great source of protein...great with snow peas and a little honey.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 7:30:25 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: jespasinthru

It is nearly impossible to produce foodstuffs that have no insect contaminates in them.

It is very hard, but you must learn to live with this icky fact.


23 posted on 07/24/2014 7:31:19 PM PDT by Bobalu (Israel is the most long-suffering and peace loving nation on Earth.)
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To: jespasinthru

I do not put flour or boxes of pasta in the cupboard without sealing them in plastic bags or boxes first.

I have never purchased grain items that already had weevils in them. But if they sit around the kitchen for a while, especially if the package is opened, they will attract weevils. This is more of a problem in some parts of the country. In Maryland, I can get away with opening a package and using it within a week or so before the weevils find it; in California, the weevils showed up almost as soon as I put the package in the cupboard.

I suggest investing in some Rubbermaid containers and making a habit of sealing all grain items as soon as you take them home from the store. Ziploc bags also work. The plastic shopping bags will NOT work.


24 posted on 07/24/2014 7:32:27 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: blam

Thanks, I’ll try that!


25 posted on 07/24/2014 7:32:35 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Fungi
The Average Chocolate Bar Contains How Many Insect Parts?

According to ABC News, the average chocolate bar contains eight insect pieces! (Ewwww!) And it gets worse: They say that people who are allergic to chocolate generally aren’t reacting to the cocoa, they’re reacting to then ground-up cockroach and other insects that have invaded their chocolate. (Double, triple, and quadruple Ewww!)

26 posted on 07/24/2014 7:33:12 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: jespasinthru

You are a spoiled American. There are bugs in everything, in your canned good, in your frozen goods, in your processed foods but they’re usually really ground up and you don’t see them. Consumers complain if there are bugs and then complain if their food is sprayed.

You can get another brand of pasta but it is just as likely to have weevils as any other. Send me the coupons, I’ll use them.

Clean your cabinets, spray some bug spray, clean them again. I freeze most things for 72 hours, I don’t know if that really helps but I don’t have weevils. Bay leaves help too, just put them in your cupboard.

Mankind would die without insects.


27 posted on 07/24/2014 7:33:14 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Celtic Conservative

Yep!


28 posted on 07/24/2014 7:34:06 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Just skim the bugs off they’ll come to the top when it boils.


29 posted on 07/24/2014 7:34:06 PM PDT by tiki
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To: jespasinthru

I have found many little black bugs in pasta over the years. Not a problem, throw some oregano in the tomato sauce, you’ll never notice them, and you wont care, especially if you got the sauce done right. Everything tastes great in in tomato sauce.


30 posted on 07/24/2014 7:35:55 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2016! Really??? That's Retarded Sir.)
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To: jespasinthru

All my flours, pasta, rice and any packaged dry ‘mixes’ get a trip through my 0F chest freezer for about a month.

No problems.


31 posted on 07/24/2014 7:36:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: prairiebreeze
Check out the accepted number of insect fragments that are allowed by the FDA in canned food. Canned tomatoes for instance.

And people wonder why I do my own canning....

I KNOW what's in it.

32 posted on 07/24/2014 7:36:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: jespasinthru

Blame the Greenies who attack pesticides on one side, and GMO grains on the the other side. You end up with more bugs in the food.

Meanwhile, here are some recipes to try out on your husband:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/10401191/Top-11-bug-recipes.html

http://www.insectsarefood.com/recipes.html

http://edibug.wordpress.com/recipes/

Although I’d take a pass on the scorpions.


33 posted on 07/24/2014 7:36:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: jespasinthru; Kartographer

Since it involves food storage there is only ONE MAN on this site that can answer your question...


34 posted on 07/24/2014 7:36:49 PM PDT by BobL
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To: exDemMom

“I have never purchased grain items that already had weevils in them.”

I did once. I opened some corn meal and there were weevils so I went to the store and bought a new bag got home, opened it and it had just as many. I just picked them out and used it anyway.


35 posted on 07/24/2014 7:38:01 PM PDT by tiki
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To: jespasinthru
I guess you've never had a garden. I remember my dad picking corn, husking it and chopping out sections (usually at the silk end) which some corn worm had eaten. I remember getting little black bugs in freshly picked raspberries. I remember finding a live cat eating the turkey off my plate when I wasn't looking... well, that was easy to remove even if she growled a little while I did it.
36 posted on 07/24/2014 7:41:51 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: jespasinthru

Your husband is right, it’s no big deal.


37 posted on 07/24/2014 7:41:58 PM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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Oh yeah, grains are grown outdoors where there are insects and then they are stored for months and months in silos. They wash the grains before processing them but the insects have bored into many of them and lain eggs and those don’t get washed out.


38 posted on 07/24/2014 7:42:32 PM PDT by tiki
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To: blam

Then you’ll be really upset by a food grade dye commonly known as carmine red. It’s produced from the ground up shells of a Beetle. they’re farmed specifically for this purpose. It’s also used in makeup and pharmceuticals.

CC


39 posted on 07/24/2014 7:44:23 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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re: Has this ever happened to you?

Unfortunately, yes. And I have no advice to give. It seems to be a fact of life.


40 posted on 07/24/2014 7:44:26 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: KarlInOhio

We always ate mulberries, never washed them, right out of the tree and one day I held one in my hand and watched the little worms crawl out. I did wash them after that.


41 posted on 07/24/2014 7:44:56 PM PDT by tiki
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To: jespasinthru

I bought some brown rice at the local health food store a couple months ago. As soon as I got it home the plastic bat went it to a sealed zip lock bag. A few weeks later the inside of the zip lock bag was crawling with grain moths. I have traps around the kitchen and they did not show any infestation.


42 posted on 07/24/2014 7:45:12 PM PDT by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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To: jespasinthru

never seen pasta bugs in any pasta i buy. i will look for them now, though.


43 posted on 07/24/2014 7:46:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jespasinthru

My grandfather used to say; “You eat a pound of dirt before you die”.

Don’t recall him mentioning the bug limit.


44 posted on 07/24/2014 7:47:11 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Fungi

your mom just liked to put a little bit of her in everything she made. :-)


45 posted on 07/24/2014 7:47:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nice touch......


46 posted on 07/24/2014 7:49:51 PM PDT by Fungi (And the feckless one thinks he knows everything--think again.)
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To: jespasinthru
LOL, I would rather deal with these little critters than chemicals, modifications, and pesticides. Your husband is right. Sure better than what DC is getting these days. I saw on Drudge that they have bed bug problem! Now that is scary!
47 posted on 07/24/2014 7:50:51 PM PDT by GILTN1stborn ( #rememberbenghazi #extortion17 #impeachobama)
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To: jespasinthru

I prefer the sealed plastic wrapped pasta to the boxes for just that reason.


48 posted on 07/24/2014 7:52:17 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: jespasinthru

Be grateful.


49 posted on 07/24/2014 7:52:58 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: jespasinthru; a fool in paradise
Do you expect food to be grown or manufactured in an antiseptic clean room?

Did you grow up in a plastic bubble?

Everything has some bugs in it. Do you know that yogurt is actually a living bacteria?

Things are grown in the ground, do you expect there wouldn't be bugs of some type involved?

You do wash all your veggies and fruits before eating them, right? It's not just because of dust.

If you try to live a totally clean life, you could develop allergies. A little dirt is good for your immune system.

What does the FDA considered "defective"?

The first thing on the list is ground allspice that should not contain 30 or more bug parts per 10 grams or no more than 1 rodent hair in 10 grams.

Frozen Broccoli - Average of 60 or more aphids and/or thrips and/or mites per 100 grams

ever wonder how easy it is for a can of Sweet Corn to pass muster with the FDA? - Insect larvae (corn ear worms, corn borers) 2 or more 3mm or longer larvae, cast skins, larval or cast skin fragments of corn ear worms or corn borer and the aggregate length of such larvae, cast skins, larval or cast skin fragments exceeds 12 mm in 24 pounds (24 No. 303 cans or equivalent)

Wheat Flour - Average of 75 or more insect fragments per 50 grams or 1 rodent hair in 50 grams.


*source is FDA

Defect Levels Handbook The Food Defect Action Levels - Levels of natural or unavoidable defects in foods that present no health hazards for humans

50 posted on 07/24/2014 7:53:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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