Skip to comments.Ohio State band director Jonathan Waters may fight firing
Posted on 07/25/2014 9:34:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
Ohio State University fired marching band director Jonathan Waters yesterday after a two-month investigation found that band leaders ignored a sexualized culture among students and didnt take sexual-harassment training as recommended. The firing came two weeks after OSU leaders told Waters he could keep the job if he enacted a zero-tolerance policy for sexual harassment, his attorney, David Axelrod, said yesterday. The firing was a surprise to Waters, Axelrod said. Jonathan has not decided precisely what action he will take, Axelrod said. He intends to defend his good name in one way or another. Ohio State fired Waters, 38, after a university investigation found a cascade of evidence that students in the band routinely harassed one another often directed from older students to newcomers and that Waters ignored complaints about those traditions. -
Reached by phone, Waters referred questions about the firing to his attorney. Jonathan tried as hard as he could within the constraints imposed upon him to change that culture. He did his absolute best, Axelrod said. But a 23-page report from the OSU Office of Compliance and Integrity questions his effort. University investigators found that Waters knew of several traditions and allowed them to continue. The report also found that he mishandled a report that one band member sexually assaulted another: Waters tried to discipline the female victim along with the male student, but Ohio State reversed the decision. -
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I suspect OSU is far from the only school where this is going on.
One school in Florida had a very bad run of “hazing” in the band. I believe someone died as a result. OSU probably trying to get out in front of this due to potential liability issues.
Was the last picture of the band formations a tribute to Hillary Clinton?
The band??? When Satan runs the show at our universities, I suppose he doesn’t miss a trick.
Not to worry - the T Rex got her.
You are correct. TOSU got burned when they tried to overlook problems with the football program when Tressel was coach. I do not think the NCAA can issue sanctions on a program for its marching band, but the Buckeye football brand does not need another public relations black eye
I agree. The half time show is the best part of the game. And viewers really never get to see it at Pro games.
He is going to lose this one. For better or worse, the old days of drinking and hazing are gone. Even mild hazing. Unless, of course, the “hazing” is screaming at a conservative student about what a horrible, evil monster he or she is.
They kept the teacher at Northwestern university who had the sex toy class. Probably gave him a raise.
Oh, and in case you forgot, that teacher had a guy and a girl demonstrate the sex toys on each other.
Northwestern is a private school, so they have a bit more latitude than a state school like OSU.
OSU may be trying to “do the right thing”, but there is a rule called “progressive discipline” (yes that evil word, but in this case it means your first infraction you get a reprimand, second you get a suspension, next time maybe a removal - and in extreme cases (murder? Gay slur?) you can get fired for a first offense). This band director was fairly new, maybe here 2 seasons? He allegedly was trying to clean up the mess. But OSU also has a new President, an Obama wannabe who wishes to flex his muscles and demonstrate that there is a new Sheriff in town.
This band director may never work at OSU again but he will get a huge settlement. Like basketball Coach Jim O’Brien due to OSU’s ham-handed handling of his case.
It is only money.
I was taken aback to see that his attorney’s name is David Axelrod, but he isn’t the same guy as Obama’s.
Good for him. Jon is a friend of mine. He’s good man who does not deserve this. I think a lot of this unneeded turmoil is due to a fairly new university president who wants to flex his muscles and illustrate he’s in charge. maybe some suspensions are in order, and maybe a year of no travel for the band as a punishment, but the firing is way over the top.
I don’t see your comment until after I posted mine. I see we have the same idea of what seems to motivate this new president.
Something is guaranteed to happen to Ohio State if they report it. If the university is doing “too well”, someone will come out of the woodwork with some dirt.
In a certain Scandal Evading Conference, one could probably get away with unspeakble deeds by comparison.
Leaders of fraternities have been unable to prevent occasional deaths from hazing. (Hazing which was routine during my time in college.)
Not all “traditions” are worthwhile or desirable.
Right. The OSU admin could have easily said we have a new band director on board so we are tasking him to get it turned around.
Instead they now have a nasty law suit which OSU will lose because their legal staff is totally outclassed.
You’re talking about Florida A&M University, which for years has been a school run to support a band.
Having been a Band Parent now for 8 years of high school band and 2 of college band, we stand by the old saying that the football game is just something to keep the people entertained before and after the band show.