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Page: Rick Perry's border campaign for president?
Pantagraph ^ | 7-24-2014 | Clarence Page

Posted on 07/25/2014 10:38:07 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has a response to the crisis of unaccompanied children crossing our southern border. He's calling up the National Guard. To do what? Provide daycare?

In the meantime, border agents trying to handle the inflow find themselves handling such unexpected duties as changing baby diapers.

In a news conference Perry insisted that his assignment of 1,000 troops to the border will be "force multiplier" to assist state troopers, the Border Patrol and other police who, unlike the National Guard, are allowed to make actual arrests and detentions. But sheriffs along the border sound unimpressed. Some told reporters that they have not been consulted about the wisdom of sending military personnel who are not authorized to stop, question or arrest anyone.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aliens; heartless
It's so sad to see toddlers hopping aboard Mexican freight trains. Traveling for days without a change of diapers. And they would be flying here first class with champaign handed to them by hot stewardesses if the Republicans would be more charitable. /SARC!
1 posted on 07/25/2014 10:38:07 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

It’s the kind of president we need...one that will stand up for America...for a change!


2 posted on 07/25/2014 10:42:36 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Citizen Zed
“In the meantime, border agents trying to handle the inflow find themselves handling such unexpected duties as changing baby diapers.”

Is this really true? Please tell me this is satire, sarcasm, toungue-in-cheek journalism...something.

Beyond reprehensible. How much farther can we fall as a nation?

3 posted on 07/25/2014 10:45:04 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: FrankR; Cincinatus' Wife; BuckeyeTexan; All

Yup, assuming he does not revert to his former “Pathway to Citizenship” crap in his 2011-2012 Presidential Primary failed run.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 10:47:52 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Ok, can’t change diapers? How about if they start building a wall!


5 posted on 07/25/2014 10:48:06 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Citizen Zed
This is becoming an increasingly ONE ISSUE election... Why not Perry!

He's the man on the spot... has been.

I could easily see myself voting based on A SINGLE issue and this one would be IT.

Education, taxes, health care, foreign policy, etc... don't matter much if US sovereignty is hemorrhaging hourly

6 posted on 07/25/2014 10:49:42 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Citizen Zed

Mr. Page, most of those “sheriffs” you talk about that are on the border with Mexico are also Democrat’s and nearly all, if not ALL, of those counties go blue every time!

So, not surprisingly for you, you are, shall we say, “disingenuous” when you say “sheriff’s are not in favor” (paraphrasing).

Moreover, the Dallas Morning News is a typical liberal rag for print media that needs to be bought out and then closed, permanently. Of course you know all of this and like most journalist’s you just don’t give a damn about accuracy
or honesty in your reporting.


7 posted on 07/25/2014 10:52:31 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Graewoulf

I didn’t say that “HE” was the one we need, just the one act of protecting America.

I should have known the naysayers would come out of the woodwork when I posted that thread.

I’ll make a deal with you...you be For who you want, and I’ll do the same.


8 posted on 07/25/2014 10:53:06 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Graewoulf

I didn’t say that “HE” was the one we need, just the one act of protecting America.

I should have known the naysayers would come out of the woodwork when I posted that thread.

I’ll make a deal with you...you be For who you want, and I’ll do the same.


9 posted on 07/25/2014 10:53:06 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: SMARTY
Trying to Build a dam with one rock doesn't make a President.

Perry has not done Jack and will not do anything substantial to
curb this crisis. I'll change my mind if he takes the right actions over the
next Ten years, but this kneejerk stunt before an election is hornswoggle.

10 posted on 07/25/2014 10:54:55 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

Maybe. We’ll see.

At this point a lot of Americans would sell their souls to a guy who would properly articulate their views on immigration AND THEN would actually act on the issue as he said!


11 posted on 07/25/2014 11:03:50 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Citizen Zed; BereanBrain; fieldmarshaldj; TADSLOS; Pelham; F15Eagle; bobby.223; Norm Lenhart; ...
Perry's "opposition" to this latest flood of ILLEGALs is political theater meant to fool anyone gullible enough to buy into it. Perry's record by far outweighs his current rhetoric.

RICK PERRY GETS D-MINUS ON IMMIGRATION

12 posted on 07/25/2014 11:04:49 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

That D- grade is a bit fallacious. He is “good” on securing the border. And frankly, until that is done, nothing else matters. It is phony to just weight all these issues the same. Makes no sense.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 11:21:18 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I am very familiar with Perry’s record and the D- is well-deserved.


14 posted on 07/25/2014 11:23:51 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

I know you feel that way….and Im telling you…until we secure the border, all this other stuff is totally irrelevant. So for that, a D- is not accurate, as he is an A or A- on the border…..

You can worry about the other if you want to. And he may well deserve D- or F on those other things…but none of that changes the reality that is simply NOT deniable: until the border is secure, all this other is just chat.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 11:26:34 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I fully agree that we need to secure the border and have never said otherwise. You may call giving taxpayer subsidized handouts to ILLEGAL aliens irrelevant, I don’t. You may consider Perry’s calling ILLEGAL intruders “Texans” irrelevant, I don’t. Perry’s entire record on immigration is being considered with the D-. He can beat his chest all he wants on securing the border but when it comes to supporting the ILLEGALs who are already here he has a long history of doing so and that works as a magnet to bring more. That’s hardly working to secure the border, it’s making the problem there worse.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 11:34:04 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Graewoulf

http://www.conservativehq.com/article/12602-chq-readers-agree-rick-perry-%E2%80%93-no-path-citizenship-illegal-aliens


17 posted on 07/25/2014 11:35:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: South40

I knew I’d find your comments here. Still have that misleading tagline. LOL!


18 posted on 07/25/2014 11:40:51 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: SMARTY
Why not Perry! He's the man on the spot... has been.

Don't be fooled. Perry has been Governor of Texas for over ten years, and has done little to nothing to stop the influx of illegals to this state.

Now that Obama's making him look bad by directing the southern invasion into Perry's state, he suddenly finds the spine to finally use his authority to call in the Guard......except......they won't be apprehending a single border crosser.

Friend, Perry was forced by political circumstances to do something to save face. Too bad this dog and pony show won't do a damn thing to save Texas.

19 posted on 07/25/2014 11:45:48 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: South40
Perry's "opposition" to this latest flood of ILLEGALs is political theater meant to fool anyone gullible enough to buy into it. Perry's record by far outweighs his current rhetoric.

Yep. That's it, in a nutshell.

20 posted on 07/25/2014 11:47:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: South40
......That’s hardly working to secure the border, it’s making the problem there worse.

Get over your spewing of dislike for Perry and realize he is the ONLY one that is trying to do something about the border situation.

How pray tell is this making the situation worse? Should he stand still and wait for our esteemed leader?

21 posted on 07/25/2014 11:49:31 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Citizen Zed

If the Guard were armed with automatic weapons and put on the border not miles behind it I would agree with Perry. As of now, Perry is just a pony show and nothing else. If he ordered loaded weapons and if shot at return with carpet fire. Screw Mexico.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 11:49:52 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Irish Eyes
Get over your spewing of dislike for Perry

I dislike Perry's pro-ILLEGAL alien record as any conservative should.

and realize he is the ONLY one that is trying to do something about the border situation.

Actually, no he is not. You may want to Google the name Ted Cruz. Unlike La Raza Rick, Cruz doesn't have a decade+ long history of supporting ILLEGAL aliens.

How pray tell is this making the situation worse?

It is basic psychology that if you reward wrongful behavior you can cause additional wrongful behavior. Perry's long history of rewarding wrongful behavior causes more to want to come here. You can deny that but you will look even more desperate if you do.

Should he stand still and wait for our esteemed leader?

That's a weak argument and you know it. Perry has done nothing but talk and he does so because he knows it will fool the gullible. Fortunately, there are millions of Americans he hasn't fooled.

23 posted on 07/25/2014 12:14:00 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: uncommonsense

It would be misleading had Perry not said it. But he did. :-P


24 posted on 07/25/2014 12:31:58 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: uncommonsense

I knew I’d find your comments here. Still have that misleading tagline. LOL!

*******

I don’t put much stock in the response but Perry did say it while out in CA. Not sure
if Perry believes it or just said it as a typical political throw away response.

snip
His most surprising response came at the very end of the program, when asked to
evaluate the perceived Democratic presidential front-runner, Hillary Rodham
Clinton. “Very, very capable public servant, great secretary of State,
first lady,” Perry responded, “Very capable.”

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rick-perry-san-francisco-20140612-story.html


25 posted on 07/25/2014 12:44:20 PM PDT by deport
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To: FrankR
I should have known the naysayers would come out of the woodwork when I posted that thread.

Rick called me heartless. I will never forget.


26 posted on 07/25/2014 12:44:40 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: South40
Context my FRiend, context. He was ambushed with a question and wanted to tread lightly in the group that he's selling business leaders to relocate to Texas.

I think your other points on his past stance on immigration are far stronger arguments. But, each point you bring up are stated in the most sensationalized way possible (lifted directly from lib rag headlines - like LA Times saying Perry praised Hitlery).
- For instance, you said Perry bashed AZ on their immigration law. He didn't oppose or bash the AZ immigration law - he said "it won't work for Texas".
- He also said the eVerify system is flawed and could prevent qualified people from working (he's very pro-work and business - he's probably correct on system problems and he can't deport or detain illegals, but I tend to disagree with him on this - just create an optimized backup when someone if flagged).
- He wants to allow long-term Texas residents to get in-state tuition rates. If these kids don't go to college, they're not going back to their country of origin - the options for HS ed level illegals have shown to be costly for Texas. So again, with his hands tied - not having the power to clean up the mess, offering in-state tuition for the long term residents who show ambition and are working on becoming legal - maybe it's not such a bad thing.

Again, this is specific to TEXAS that's overrun, not the rest of the union... And some of his positions are changing based on the growing problem and ObaMao's total abdication of doing his job. Some of Perry's quoted positions go back to the early-mid 2000's when Bush was pushing his "compassionate conservative" BS. I think he realizes the folly of trusting the FedGov to do anything to help, so he's not afraid to pivot when necessary.

If you check out his policy positions that I posted before, there's a lot to like. That's more of his national plank versus his Texas specific positions.

27 posted on 07/25/2014 1:21:06 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: deport
I don’t put much stock in the response but Perry did say it while out in CA.

I don't think it matter much where he said it. He said it and it will be played nationally; that is what matters.

The Republican nominee will need to hammer Hillary on her horrendous performance as SoS focusing on her failure in Benghazi and her asinine "What difference does it make" comment as a defense. Having already needlessly praised her as a "Great Secretary of State", Perry cannot do that.

I realize he was in an environment where it may have been inappropriate to attack her, but there is no excuse for his praising her with completely FALSE accolades. None.

28 posted on 07/25/2014 3:51:53 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: uncommonsense
Nice try. But nothing can erase his long history of supporting ILLEGAL aliens. I know his supporters think it can, but I also know he realizes the errors he made regarding ILLEGALs in the past election and how he has a "new plan" this time around. That all means squat when you look at his record. I have, and I know it well. I find him to be every bit the fraud he was last time around; this may be a new election cycle but it is the same pro-ILLEGAL alien Rick Perry.

By his own admission "Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate." That won't sell among conservatives nor should it. The best way to know what a politician is about is to look at his record. Perry's record sucks. Defend it all you'd like, but you can't change it. It is what it is.

29 posted on 07/25/2014 4:00:58 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Citizen Zed

Meet the new La Raza Rickie, same as the old La Raza Rickie.


30 posted on 07/25/2014 4:36:30 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Windflier

Heard a rumor that a Mexican drug cartel has taken over Sarita, TX (just south of Corpus Christi) and are patroling the streets with guns. Any on your TX list know anything about this?


31 posted on 07/25/2014 7:23:56 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks for the link to the CPAC article - - - maybe Perry has learned - - - hope so.


32 posted on 07/25/2014 7:54:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: bgill; El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; EQAndyBuzz; ...
bgill said:

Heard a rumor that a Mexican drug cartel has taken over Sarita, TX (just south of Corpus Christi) and are patroling the streets with guns. Any on your TX list know anything about this?

Hey, Texas posse. Anyone have data on this for bgill?

33 posted on 07/25/2014 8:06:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; bgill

Heard a rumor that a Mexican drug cartel has taken over Sarita, TX (just south of Corpus Christi) and are patroling the streets with guns. Any on your TX list know anything about this?


This is all I could find....

http://www.kiiitv.com/story/26003865/article-claming-chaos-in-sarita-is-a-hoax


34 posted on 07/25/2014 8:10:40 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Windflier; Liberty Valence

Reported by Liberty Valence on the Texas Board as an apparent hoax.


35 posted on 07/25/2014 8:22:57 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Windflier
Sarita is the county seat of Kenedy County -- which is, mostly, the King Ranch.

There are enough guns on that ranch to deal with the problem...if there is one.

36 posted on 07/25/2014 9:07:42 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance on parade.)
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To: Windflier

Is that the town that flew the Mexican flag over city hall, a couple years ago, and the top cop said he was enforcing Mexican law not US law?


37 posted on 07/25/2014 11:09:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: bgill

That story is a viral hoax.

Sarita is 100 miles north of the border and has a Border Patrol checkpoint.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 1:46:41 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Windflier

I believe the tale to be bogus ....called a few folks I know in law enforcement down in Corpus and they hadn’t heard or seen any such event and found this in line from 7-11-14....

http://www.alipac.us/f9/bogus-news-illegal-immigrants-forcibly-occupy-small-texas-town-hispanic-militia-306978/

Sarita is infested with supporters of the cartels so IMO no need for such a “take over” in the first place. Now the illegals may have flash mobbed the town as they are doing to Texas etc ..... That more than likely is happening everywhere.

All I could find...stay safe !


39 posted on 07/26/2014 4:00:16 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Windflier; bgill

I have some pretty good ears in that area and have not heard a thing about this, especially waving guns. Now Cartel is everywhere down there for sure buying up ranches and such from Alice area to the border.

But taking over a small hovel in Texas and waving weapons around.....? Will check


40 posted on 07/26/2014 4:38:58 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Windflier

http://keranews.org/post/sarita-safe-attack-south-texas-town-fake


41 posted on 07/26/2014 8:21:58 AM PDT by MEG33 (Pray For Our Nation)
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To: Jane Long

Okey dokey.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 10:36:26 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Windflier

Sarita, TX is a Border Patrol checkpoint

https://foursquare.com/v/sarita-checkpoint-cameras-south-bound/4c41dab6da3dc928017fc9b9


43 posted on 07/26/2014 1:02:57 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: bgill

Check the thread for replies to your question about Sarita, TX.


44 posted on 07/26/2014 3:57:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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