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Obamacare Architect Explained Intent Behind Allowing Subsidies Only On State Exchanges
Powerline Blog ^ | July 25, 2014 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 07/25/2014 3:05:58 PM PDT by right-wing agnostic

Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT, is widely is regarded as the architect of both Romneycare and Obamacare. Following the D.C. Circuit’s decision in Halbig, he asserted that the provision of Obamacare limiting subsidies to the state exchanges was a “typo.” Indeed, he found it “criminal” to suggest that Obamacare was intended to work this way.

But William Jacobson (via one of his readers) has unearthed video from 2012 in which Gruber explains why Obamacare limits subsidies to participants in state exchanges — the view of the statute he now finds “criminal.”

Gruber stated: “I think what’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits.”

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: obamacare; romney; romneyagenda; romneycare; subsidies
The admission from Jonathan Gruber in the viideo is just an admission that the three-judge panel's decision in Halbig v. Burwell was indeed constitutionally sound! I certainly hope, but am EXTREMELY SKEPTICAL, that Chief Justice Roberts doesn't rewrite the law again (as he did in NFIB v. Sebelius) to make this provision constitutional. It is undoubtedly true that the U.S. Supreme Court is not in the business of correcting Congress's statutory faux pas. I certainly hope that Chief Justice Robets realizes this. I HATE JOHN ROBERTS as much as I do the prtesident who appointed him./rwa
1 posted on 07/25/2014 3:05:58 PM PDT by right-wing agnostic
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To: right-wing agnostic

It’s clear that the dems played the political card against the repub Govs. When the govs didn’t play the game, the deems now want to retract the law. Hilarious if not so obvious.

Let’s see how the supremes can sing their way out of this one.

Another reason why sweat is piling up in the WH.


2 posted on 07/25/2014 3:08:56 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

The entire Obama administration is a “typo.”


3 posted on 07/25/2014 3:09:18 PM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Well, I don’t hate Bush, but I do hate Roberts. Frickin’ torpedoed this country. Should this go back to SCOTUS, he’d best get his constitutional act together.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 3:10:52 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: right-wing agnostic

They obviously did not see this coming


5 posted on 07/25/2014 3:12:36 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: right-wing agnostic
Jonathan Gruber, a professor at MIT, is widely is regarded as the architect of both Romneycare and Obamacare... asserted that the provision of Obamacare limiting subsidies to the state exchanges was a “typo.

HE LIES. Like so many other Obozo allies.

6 posted on 07/25/2014 3:13:09 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Slyfox
The entire Obama administration is a “typo.”

The entire sad sack of Marxist sh*t can't spell-o.
7 posted on 07/25/2014 3:13:14 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: right-wing agnostic

Gruber is a liar, and not a very good one.


8 posted on 07/25/2014 3:14:40 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Tax credits, schmax credits. Tie the boyh behind a pickup and drag him around a parking lot. Then let’s see if citizen tax credits are the most important thing.


9 posted on 07/25/2014 3:23:07 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

You mean it didn’t go according to their plans? Wow that never happens. /s


10 posted on 07/25/2014 3:23:32 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: right-wing agnostic

From what I know about tax law, and it isn’t much, the Federal Government can’t impose different tax laws for different states.

Since Roberts has called the penalty a tax, it must be imposed to all citizens in all states in the same way. It would seem that this is impossible due to a difference in insurance set up and access in the states.

Therefore the ACA is unconstitutional based on the Roberts decision?


11 posted on 07/25/2014 3:30:03 PM PDT by mom.mom
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I distinctly remember officials announcing, around the time states were setting up exchanges, that those non-exchange states wouldn’t be getting subsidies. It was supposed to be a “stick and carrot” approach to getting all the states to cooperate.


12 posted on 07/25/2014 3:32:53 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Remember, we are dealing with lawyers here. Anything, repeat, anything is possible and probable.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 3:36:48 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: right-wing agnostic
i agree with everything in your post.

I would love to know how Roberts suckered the Bush fools into appointing him.

He was the favorite of his leftist law professors !

14 posted on 07/25/2014 3:37:51 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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“I would love to know how Roberts suckered the Bush fools into appointing him.”

George W. Bush also tried to put Harriet Myers on the Court. His father did put David Souter on the Court. Colin Powell was Secretary of State for George W. Bush and Robert Gates was his second Defense Secretary. He retained Clinton’s Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta and put the Chairman of Goldman Sach, Henry Paulson, in charge of Treasury just in time to give Goldman and the rest of the Wall Street “too big to fail” banking syndicate the biggest taxpayer bailout in history. George W. Bush was not a conservative. He was a member of the Ivy League elitist nobility that rules this nation.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 3:50:19 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

1. The authors intentionally wrote it that way thinking they had a political hammer in the plain and clear text of the law. They miscalculated. Is not ambiguous, but it was a mistake. Sorry ... you lose. States only.

2. Baucus made the intent and language clear in committee Sept 23, 2009. Cspan has the video. Legislative intent should not be in question. The lawyers need to get this into their briefs.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 3:55:53 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: mom.mom

Same tax for each state. Use exchanges, get subsidy. Forego exchanges, no subsidy. As another said, it’s a carrot and stick approach: you don’t have to, but get rewarded if you do. Same options for all states. Just like other things like federal highway funds.


17 posted on 07/25/2014 4:10:48 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: right-wing agnostic

And a sniveling arrogant marxist degenerate prick.

18 posted on 07/25/2014 4:19:28 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: morphing libertarian

Consider the recent revelation that the Obama administration has been making very large, undisclosed payments to MIT Professor Jonathan Gruber to provide consultation on the President’s health care plan.

With this lucrative arrangement in place, Gruber spent the entire year offering public justifications for Obama’s health care plan, typically without disclosing these payments, and far worse, was repeatedly held out by the White House — falsely — as an “independent” or “objective” authority.

Obama allies in the media constantly cited Gruber’s analysis to support their defenses of the President’s plan, and the White House, in turn, then cited those media reports as proof that their plan would succeed. This created an infinite “feedback loop” in favor of Obama’s health care plan which — unbeknownst to the public — was all being generated by someone who was receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in secret from the administration (read this to see exactly how it worked).

In other words, this arrangement was quite similar to the Armstrong Williams and Maggie Gallagher scandals which Democrats, in virtual lockstep, condemned.

Paul Krugman, for instance, in 2005 angrily lambasted right-wing pundits and policy analysts who received secret, undisclosed payments, and said they lack “intellectual integrity”; he specifically cited the Armstrong Williams case. Yet the very same Paul Krugman last week attacked Marcy Wheeler for helping to uncover the Gruber payments by accusing her of being “just like the right-wingers with their endless supply of fake scandals.”

What is one key difference? Unlike Williams and Gallagher, Jonathan Gruber is a Good, Well-Intentioned Person with Good Views — he favors health care — and so massive, undisclosed payments from the same administration he’s defending are dismissed as a “fake scandal.”

http://www.erinoconnor.org/archives/2010/01/in_bed_with_the.html


19 posted on 07/25/2014 4:29:39 PM PDT by Rome2000
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But, but - one of the many weasel ways judges have of imposing their views on the public in spite of the law is to assert that while the law may say one thing, the intent of those who wrote it actually was something else - here’s a clear case of the intent in fact being in line with the law as written - let’s see how the wiggle around it......


20 posted on 07/25/2014 4:52:42 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Rome2000

Thank you. I long for the day Obama is removed from office; especially when I consider all the damage He can do in the next 30 months.

I have no faith in the court on any subject when literal simple language can be spun and is open to any meaning they decide or they can avoid the central issue altogether.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 6:13:23 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

WASHINGTONIANS OUT!.

No reform of DC possible.

We need people who go to DC not to reform but to dismantle.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 6:33:12 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000

Let’s roll


23 posted on 07/25/2014 6:49:26 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: right-wing agnostic

No way in hell it is a typo - it was intended to strong-arm the States into compliant servitude. Now that it didn’t work, if they want to claim “typo” they should be told that those who don’t read the laws they enact get stuck with the laws they enacted.


24 posted on 07/26/2014 2:45:59 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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