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Weekly Garden Thread Volume 30 July 25, 2014
Free Republic | 25 July 2014

Posted on 07/25/2014 6:35:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


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I was asked to start the thread because Greeneyes isn't feeling well. Prayers up for her.

/johnny

1 posted on 07/25/2014 6:35:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Garden Thread.

/johnny

2 posted on 07/25/2014 6:36:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

May God bless her with healing.


3 posted on 07/25/2014 6:37:02 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: sockmonkey
It's been hot here in this part of Texas. I've spent the last week clearing fence line and getting a field ready for some calves, and I'm whipped and scarred from all the briars and barbed wire.

I don't want to do that again anytime soon.

My garden is burning up.

I need cheap shade cloth that I can put up to protect the sensitive stuff.

/johnny

4 posted on 07/25/2014 6:40:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

This week, we have received 3” of rain, 0.3 more than the entire July average. Unfortunately, it was partially hail, though it looks like everything is recovering from the damage, except the various beans.

We did pick about 6 quarts of cherries from the bush cherry; and have another couple of quarts that will be ready tomorrow, to finish. Also getting cucumbers, but not much else yet.

That gives me a respite to harvest the winter rye...and discover just how dangerous a scythe can be. At least I didn’t need stitches. LOL Also discovered that scything is NOT nearly as easy and effortless as several Youtube videos make out.

Now it’s your turn; take it away Gardeners!

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5 posted on 07/25/2014 6:56:16 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My neighbor and I have been looking for the fall shipment of pepper plants (in Central TX/Austin area) and it seems that they aren’t in the stores (Lowes, Home Depot, WallyWorld, others) yet, and that they are about three weeks late. Has anyone else run across this, or seen their normal fall shipment?


6 posted on 07/25/2014 6:58:15 PM PDT by matthew fuller (It's past time to impeach our illegal alien muslim brohood marxist president.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
and discover just how dangerous a scythe can be. At least I didn’t need stitches.

Ow! Don't do that.

There's a reason that Death carries a scythe. ;)

/johnny

7 posted on 07/25/2014 6:58:27 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Fair this week. Got a ribbon on my pumpkin. Volunteer came up in compost pile. Little early to have a ripe one here. Tomatoes are getting ripe. Will be busy soon


8 posted on 07/25/2014 6:58:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: matthew fuller
My peppers are not doing well this year here in Texas. I've been blaming it on late cool weather.

I started some new pepper plants from seed for the fall garden, but they are going slow, too.

/johnny

9 posted on 07/25/2014 7:00:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Lesson learned. Got the side of my my thumb while sharpening it, when the file slipped.


10 posted on 07/25/2014 7:03:19 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I gave my neighbor a two year old Century plant. I have a nice one on the porch (Hungarian princess vintage) as well as a Blue Agave plant, they do surprising well in Ohio.


11 posted on 07/25/2014 7:06:48 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: ApplegateRanch
I got hit by wasps while clearing the fence line. I'm done with dangerous stuff for a while. And 4:00 AM mornings. And Texas heat.

I'm babysitting the grandkids next week. Inside. ;)

/johnny

12 posted on 07/25/2014 7:08:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Greeneyes get well and rest up. Hope your all having at least some measurable success at the gardening ‘thang’ out there.
Always a mixed bag it seems. Yeh we got the Tx heat from hades showing up now—whats new? My cukes were growing just dandy until the oven came along-— I got a total of 4 fruits from 4 vine plants——not a so a good a. Swiss chard in pots is surprisingly good even in the heat but with some PM shade.
Maters were all replacements so have to wait for Fall if I can get them past the scorch of August. Peppers got big and leafy and finally some blooms but same as above. The sweet and cinnamon basil are good, reliable soldiers out there and I salute them before eating them up on their designated food entries.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 7:09:52 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Over run with cukes, put up 42 qts so far- b&b pickles. should get at least that many more. Will probably make maybe a dozen pints of dill with some of them. lots of rain this year (central Illinois).


14 posted on 07/25/2014 7:09:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10,v 19)
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To: JRandomFreeper
About bedtime here (early day tomorrow), but here are a few pictures from a couple of recent harvest days (plus a sunflower picture). My garden is elevated slightly and tends to be a little dry, so the wet weather here over the last few weeks has been a Godsend.

Squash is mostly gone now, and banana peppers and cucumbers are fading. Purple hull peas are doing really well. Cantaloupe, too. I picked eight cantaloupes within the last few days. Will be giving some away at church. (What I've taken thus far has been much appreciated.) Picked one watermelon. Several more almost ready. Yellow-meated variety a little later.

Green beans are doing fair. Tomatoes are doing well...not the prettiest in the world, but still doing well. First batch of corn is about ready. Okra amounts are modest but steady. Bell peppers are doing well. Baby lima beans and butter peas will be ready to start picking within a week. Have a giant pumpkin starting to fruit. Have some seedlings started also.

Grass and weeds are ready to harvest. A bumper crop as usual, although thankfully not as bad as most years.

Gardening is good for the soul.

Night all.





15 posted on 07/25/2014 7:10:59 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m babysitting the grandkids next week. Inside.


Thought you said you were done with dangerous stuff. LOL


16 posted on 07/25/2014 7:13:42 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I have one Gypsy Pepper plant, and it is my favorite variety. It is still blooming and setting peppers, and they are very great tasting peppers, large, sweet, and thick skinned, and very prolific. I highly recommend it for Central TX. I will have more when and if I can find them.

Also have a couple of “Yummy” plants, peppers are good, but don’t compare to Gypsy.


17 posted on 07/25/2014 7:16:35 PM PDT by matthew fuller (It's past time to impeach our illegal alien muslim brohood marxist president.)
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To: Graybeard58

Not sure how many years 42 quarts would last us.


18 posted on 07/25/2014 7:17:01 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Prayers up for Greeneyes. Canned 9 quarts of salsa yesterday. My 15 tomato plants are heavy producers this year. It’s starting to get hot now so I imagine they will slow down.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 7:18:11 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

What varieties are your fertile ‘maters?


20 posted on 07/25/2014 7:23:09 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes

Praying that Greeneyes is feeling well soon.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 7:23:50 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Starstruck

My tomatoes are just starting to look good. I grew some hillbilly tomatoes this year, the plants are kind of strange looking. we’ll see. I used horse manure in my garden this year, and had a lot of bugs, I had NO bugs last year. Don’t think I’ll do that again. My lettuce, okra, radish, and sunflowers suffered extreme attacks. I’m not one for dust or any of that.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 7:29:51 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes

We were in Montana this past week. Wow those people that grow cherries are serious about their crops. Gun drown for a poacher stealing their crop.
Wonderful State to see, we enjoyed every minute of it.


23 posted on 07/25/2014 7:31:20 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I give away most of them to family and friends at church.


24 posted on 07/25/2014 7:31:35 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10,v 19)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Please be careful!


25 posted on 07/25/2014 7:33:04 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I want to be done with dangerous stuff too... This week I shot a 3 ft. long western diamondback, in my garage. I was most proud of my eight cats because they filed through the garage, passing the rattlesnake, and into the house (quietly and rapidly),so that I could have a clear shot. Cats and grandchildren: if you work with them and have great expectations, sometimes you can be pleasantly surprised.


26 posted on 07/25/2014 7:34:59 PM PDT by SisterK (the great tribulation begins)
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To: Silentgypsy

I’m always careful; that’s why they call me Gimpy, instead of Stumpy! ;-)


27 posted on 07/25/2014 7:35:32 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Graybeard58

Figured it was something like that.


28 posted on 07/25/2014 7:36:33 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Wow! Thanks for photos!


29 posted on 07/25/2014 7:37:53 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (Mind your atomic bonds.)
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To: tflabo
What varieties are your fertile ‘maters?

I've got Cherokee Purple, Marianna Peace, Azoychka, Coustralee, Eva Purple Ball and Stump of the World.

30 posted on 07/25/2014 7:54:08 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

I wasn’t impressed with Cherokee Purples to be honest. After sinking your mouth into a lemon boy, everything else is less than.


31 posted on 07/25/2014 8:02:49 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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After sinking your mouth into a lemon boy, everything else is less than.

Probably related to the Azoychka. Yellow with a citrus flavor.

32 posted on 07/25/2014 8:28:46 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes

Greeneyes .... hope you feel better soon!

We have been very dry for quite a while so it was a small relief yesterday to get maybe a half inch of rain via a couple of T-storms. The result of that rain was a major June bug hatch .... they’re flying all over the place. The crow family was in the field (where the garden is located) today, catching June bugs - it was rather comical, seeing them jump up and down trying to snag a bug. The two young ones were doing more begging the adults for bugs rather than catching their own. At least the bugs kept them occupied/distracted and away from the tomatoes. Actually, I’m putting up a ‘hoop house’ and have it far enough along to put netting over it - haven’t lost a tomato since the netting went up.


33 posted on 07/25/2014 8:41:04 PM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: JRandomFreeper; greeneyes

Thanks for hosting the thread and best wishes for greeneyes. We picked another 1 1/2 gallons of strawberries today that Lady Bender is prepping for Fellowship at Church Sunday. I like them warm right off the plants in the garden. I watered. the corn yesterday and it still has a couple of weeks to go.


34 posted on 07/25/2014 8:41:44 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Anybody besides me seeing signs of early winter?
Here in West MI, I’ve got BLACK berries ripening, mum’s blooming, birds flocking, fruit flies swarming, and several other late Aug early Sept flowers blooming for a couple of weeks.
Scarey, after last winter.


35 posted on 07/25/2014 8:46:19 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: JRandomFreeper; matthew fuller
My peppers are not doing well this year here in Texas.

I have mucho nachos, and Gypsy. The Gypsy Pepper plants have done pretty well. In fact, I skipped picking some this morning as I was being lazy.

Not enjoying the Texas heat. We did get some rain about a week and a half ago. I thought my rain barrel was going to overflow, so flipped a plastic kiddie pool over to catch the excess..I thought moths were flying out from it..so I was shooshing them away, then realized they were yellowjackets. Oops, so lucky, they don't sting me, even when they should for chasing them from their nest.

Tomatoes seem to be getting their second wind, Cucuzzi, and trombettas don't seem phased by the heat. Armenian Cukes have tons of blossoms, but no cukes. I put tomato tone on everything yesterday, and have been injecting the tromboncino vines with BTK. I also planted some tycoons, and lemon boys for fall. I also finished digging up my potatoes. The last ones were the red, white, and blue ones..althoygh the blue looks more purple to me.

36 posted on 07/25/2014 8:53:50 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I live in Sarasota, Fl. Surprisingly, there are areas of a house which are difficult to populate with a robust, growing plant. Such was the case with the NW corner of my house which gets a lot of sun and the ground slopes so that the sand filled soil drains very rapidly.

I solved the problem with a Macho Fern which loves both sun and shade and thrives even in drought conditions.

I planted it two weeks ago and it’s doing great.


37 posted on 07/25/2014 9:12:27 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: bog trotter; Excellence
bog trotter:".. Scarey, after last winter."

I would suggest you return mid-afternoon tomoroow (SAT.) for EXCELLENCE weather referral to "Joe Bastardi", climatologist, video @ weatherbell.com .
Earlier this spring, Bastardi stated that the winter of 2014-15 would be just like last year (2013-14 )
It will be interesting to see if he has anything new to report - if not ,I am headed South (Fla.) this winter.
I go through Seasonal Affect Disorder (SAD) and hunker down in the North like a big-ole-bear in hibernation, and get somewaht depressed by lack of sunlinght
so I NEED to head South , as did my parents who also had SAD even before it had a name .
Put up more wood, coal, or propane for the winter , and invest in wool clothing, or join me further South .
I have found Bastardi to be reliable and accurate. Check him out this Saturday P.M., video in the afternoon c/o Excellence.

38 posted on 07/25/2014 10:21:56 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Peppers were the only thing we harvested this year. Critters got every single mater. But they didn’t like hot peppers. Had some cayennes, chilitepins, jalapenos, banana,and some unknown pepper. It was labeled Jalapeno, but was not. It grew longer and had 0 heat, and no flavor, so I threw some in a jar that I was making Pepper sauce just to bulk up the jar a little for looks. I am cutting these off tomorrow, and transplanting the rest of the peppers into containers and going to clear the garden of all these useless plants, leaving a patch of nothing but mater stakes.


39 posted on 07/26/2014 12:26:40 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Liberals don’t think along the same lines as Americans--FReeper ScottinVA)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The Lord bless green-eyed lady. It has been a bin-buster year for squash, cukes, peppers, and beans in Missouri. Tomatoes are looking good except for fungus and the danged chickens. Corn is also outstanding but I have to watch for the coons. I woke up at 3 a.m. And had that feeling, so I grabbed the 20 gauge, exited the back door and found 3 coons in the front yard. They scrambled for the brushy border but I downed one. There is an endless supply. Last year I killed 13 in the yard and garden.


40 posted on 07/26/2014 5:05:26 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
That gives me a respite to harvest the winter rye...and discover just how dangerous a scythe can be. At least I didn’t need stitches. LOL Also discovered that scything is NOT nearly as easy and effortless as several Youtube videos make out.

Oh, I have used a scythe. Yeah, one of those will teach you to appreciate a sickle-bar mower, of all things. And scythes are downright dangerous... cut myself several times sharpening them, until I got it through my knuckle head to wear a heavy glove on the stone hand.

Fortunately I never actually swung the thing into myself. That strikes me as being kind of hard to do, actually.

41 posted on 07/26/2014 5:33:10 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I planted a batch of Italian Red potatoes about two months ago that seem to be about ready to harvest (the above-ground part is dying off).

Two months from now (late September) is well-before expected first frost.

Can I harvest this batch, dry some for a few days, and replant for another crop this year?

Or do I need to do something else?

Or just plant spinach, which grows fast?


42 posted on 07/26/2014 6:24:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
I have no idea. I might try it, since potatoes handle hold pretty well. I do lots of experimentation, though. ;)

/johnny

43 posted on 07/26/2014 6:27:41 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; All
Greeneyes, get well fast.

rightly, you can stop worrying - I have the required “ring”.

When you live in another area, It takes time to change all your addresses and phone numbers pertaining to companies with whom you have to deal. I still have my house so utility companies and all other bill companies had to be notified where I moved but I got as many bills as I could sent to me by email to cut down on paper through the mail.

As for gardening: I brought all my seeds with me as well as several plants. The Cherry Punch cherry tomato plant is still producing and the sweet banana pepper has new blooms on it. When I left there the first time to come here and then went back, the netting I put over all the tomatoes kept out the squirrels and birds and we collected lots of large, medium, and cherry tomatoes. Those tomatoes were Sweet Million, Fourth of July, Cosmonaut Volkoy, Tycoon, and Better Boy.

I'm going to try to grow a Cherry Punch tomato plant inside in the winter. It was developed to be a container tomato plant and has 30% more Vitamin C than other tomatoes.

Just before I changed my life for the better, I ordered Tom Thumb Lettuce seeds and (from Eden Brothers) bought a bunch of Bronze Mignonette Lettuce seed (one ounce) and Little Gem lettuce seed (1/4 pound). All these make small heads of lettuce. I have the two from Eden Brothers here but don't have the Tom Thumb. I missed getting that one in with the others. I bought these various seeds since I screwed up lettuce I planted earlier in the year. Either I screwed up, or lettuce hates me. I'll try to grow those this fall along with some other tomatoes. When we go to my house in the fall, I will dig up the Walking Onions and bring them here.

Dear Bob is adjusting to my prepper/gardener self. There is a fancy electronic rain gauge here but it isn't set up right now. I've put that on a “Honey Do” list so he will get it reporting. He was a wrestler in college and has superior upper body strength. Finally, someone to lift what I can't. Oh, I just told him I put the rain gauge on here and he laughed and said he would set it up when he goes outside in a short while. I love free labor. :o)

44 posted on 07/26/2014 8:56:11 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
I keep thinking of Marius' Mules.

Poor Bob. ;)

/johnny

45 posted on 07/26/2014 9:18:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
“Marius’ Mules”

Bob says that's a accurate description of his situation.

I looked through the papers, etc., I brought to do with gardening and found the two envelopes of lettuce I got to send to you. One of Bronze Mignonette and one of Little Gem. I'll get those in the mail to you, hopefully this evening.

46 posted on 07/26/2014 9:52:31 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: bog trotter; Excellence
bog trotter:".. several other late Aug early Sept flowers blooming for a couple of weeks.
Scarey, after last winter."

Joe Bastardi's Saturday Summary July 26, 2014
Saturday, July 26, 2014 12:14:33 PM · by Excellence
Summary :
discussion of low # of tornados and wild fires, and why
end of the month = below temps in Oklahoma and central U.S.
stunningly cool throughout the heartland by the end of the month
expect colder temps this winter , again !! ( just like last year)
super "El Ninio" broadcast by mainstream press is B.S., and designed for the hysterical media's need for headlines and viewership rateings ,
and complies with governmental approved climate change dynamics

47 posted on 07/26/2014 10:14:48 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: DuncanWaring
DuncanWaring:".. Two months from now (late September) is well-before expected first frost.
Can I harvest this batch (Italian Red potatoes), dry some for a few days, and replant for another crop this year?"

I would try it !
Potatoes are fairly cold tolerant, although you might have to cover them in hard frost with a blanket, or with straw on really cold nights.
Go for the experiment !
and Play in your garden .. since it is sn experiment of what you can accomplish !

48 posted on 07/26/2014 10:28:03 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; JRandomFreeper

There was someone selling them at the local farmer’s market ... I asked her, she said to dig a few and wait until they grow eyes, then replant.

I’ll try that.


49 posted on 07/26/2014 10:37:05 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Once you see some eyes sprouting from the potatoes, plant either whole, or good sizable chunks
If useing cut chunk, allow a day or two in the sun to form 'callous' (plant scab) to prevent fungal disease, or rot
.. then replant

Most store-bought potatoes have been sprayed with a hormone which inhibits easy sprouting.
and are designed to have potatoes stored for long periods of storage or longer with refridgeration.

50 posted on 07/26/2014 11:51:41 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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