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FDNY ‘babying’ cadet who can’t pass fitness tests: classmate
NY Post ^ | July 26, 2014 | By Kenneth Garger and Daniel Prendergast

Posted on 07/26/2014 7:03:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

FDNY ‘babying’ cadet who can’t pass fitness tests: classmate

By Kenneth Garger and Daniel Prendergast

She walked through her running tests and got winded climbing stairs, yet a physically unfit female FDNY probie was still allowed out in the field like a normal graduate — and given a year to pass, The Post has learned. “She’s literally the most pathetic specimen of physical fitness I’ve ever seen,” fumed an academy classmate of Choeurlyne Doirin, 39, who was given a uniform and a “light-duty” assignment even though she did not graduate on June 2 with the other 286 cadets. Prospective firefighters are required to complete a grueling 18 weeks of academy training that includes being able to run 1¹/₂ miles in 12 minutes without gear. But the over-the-hill Doirin failed to meet the required time, taking more than 18 minutes to huff-and-puff her way across the finish line.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: racism
Last May the communist Bill De Blasio aka Warren Wilhelm, paid out $98 million of taxpayer cash to settle a bogus lawsuit filed by a black group claiming the FDNY doesn't hire enough blacks. So as result, they have this kind of crap going on now. People not qualified being hired ANYWAY or having their butts coddled. How much time in advance did this woman have to prepare? She chose not to, hey but when you are a member of the protected class you don't have to prep! If the FDNY don't like it sue their butt and become a millionaire!

http://observer.com/2014/03/city-officials-cheer-98-million-f-d-n-y-settlement/

1 posted on 07/26/2014 7:03:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

people will die so that idiots can be politically correct


2 posted on 07/26/2014 7:06:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Perhaps they could make her an air traffic controller instead.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 7:11:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

4 posted on 07/26/2014 7:11:48 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: smokingfrog

“people will die so that idiots can be politically correct”

Liberal policies have been killing innocent people for decades.


5 posted on 07/26/2014 7:11:59 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Our county has a huge fire department. Many years ago they lowered the physical ability testing so that women could pass. They did. After about 5 years on the job they were all off work because of being hurt on the job in some way. They just don’t have the physical strength to do the job. None of the women except 2 lasted very long and those 2 promoted up the ladder so fast that they promoted out of the ranks that actually did the physical work.
Now there are still women that get hired but they just don’t last long.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 7:13:55 AM PDT by sheana
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Disgusting. I recently watched a 85 y/o John Starr racewalk 10K (6.214 miles) in 1:14:05.1. That is an 11:55 per mile pace at more than twice age, and restricted by the racewalking rules. This woman has no business whatsoever in the field with any FD.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 7:14:47 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 14 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It’s the same everywhere, now we’re supposed to be happy that we don’t get the quality of services we pay for. I remember a couple of years ago there was a large city that agreed to waive the swim test for racial minorities to become lifeguards at the municipal pools.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 7:15:50 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I do not run. I am not in good shape, however, at 47 I am pretty sure that after 18 weeks of training I could run 1 1/2 miles in 12 minutes. Particularly since I can walk 1 mile to my sons school in less than 10 minutes at a brisk pace.


9 posted on 07/26/2014 7:19:14 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: headstamp 2
Perhaps they could make her an air traffic controller instead.

They made me one, but not by way of affirmative action.

10 posted on 07/26/2014 7:19:53 AM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors. The difference is Nero plays a fiddle, while Obama plays Minnesota Fats)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Fire Departments are GOOD JOBS. They are paying starting salaries of $40K + a year and after five years over $75K. Plus benefits of more than 20K per year. They have no problem finding lots f people to enter the ranks. There is no reason to lower standards.


11 posted on 07/26/2014 7:24:04 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Mark17

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=4009f695-1539-43a2-b03f-7481b4b1ae8f


12 posted on 07/26/2014 7:24:29 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: SteveH

She sweats good!


13 posted on 07/26/2014 7:24:49 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
My son's a firefighter in a large southern city. They had a black female cadet, same story. Totally could not pass the physical, and failed every written first time out (they are allowed two tries).

At graduation, the ceremony came to a halt while all the local pols jumped on stage to get a photo op with this cadet. The only cadet they did this with.

Obvious much ?

14 posted on 07/26/2014 7:25:24 AM PDT by onona (IÂ’ve pretty much given up on sanity returning.)
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To: SteveH

I had an inkling that Choeurlyne might look like that.


15 posted on 07/26/2014 7:29:28 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

They should send her out on calls only to the neighborhood she comes from.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 7:31:05 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I have a female relative that has a similar situation. She failed to get into the military though trying out in several branches. She is overweight and probably has some emotional/psychological issues. She enrolled in divinity school and got in through chaplaincy in the Guard. She has struggled time and time again with PT and fitness requirements but she still is being retained.

In a community I work in, the FD has a ranking position filled by a woman about five feet zero inches tall, tops, and about one hundred pounds.

This crap is everywhere and the system is so corrupt leadership actually defends and endorses this stuff instead of tolerating political correctness.

I feel so safe at night knowing these defenders are on the watch.


17 posted on 07/26/2014 7:31:30 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: SteveH

Gee look at all the white women in that class. Yes, the FDNY is totally racist against blacks. Anybody who lives in NYC, next time you are driving around count how many white traffic cops see. You’ll be lucky if you find even one, but of course THAT is not racist.


18 posted on 07/26/2014 7:33:00 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

We have an affirmative action POTUS so why not a firefighter.


19 posted on 07/26/2014 7:33:02 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Surely they can find some tough, skinny younger guys from the hood who can run like h*ll. If they really want a black female, they should be able to find a few that are not mounds of fat.....


20 posted on 07/26/2014 7:35:16 AM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

PC has killed merit, accountability and integrity.


21 posted on 07/26/2014 7:39:26 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: headstamp 2

Female firefighter in action...

http://youtu.be/ERwzqvs7vvU


22 posted on 07/26/2014 7:42:44 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sheana

Are you in Texas, a small town in Texas, where the same thing happened in my town.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 7:44:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

And she’s gonna carry you out of your burning house.


24 posted on 07/26/2014 7:46:55 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

I never understood all this affirmative action and quota hiring and all that.

Agreed, let’s not discriminate. Agreed, let girls into the police academy and fire training. But, the girls have to meet the same standards. If they can’t cut it, that is not discriminatory. Based on the job requirements, such as being able to carry a 200 pound person, and carry heavy gear, being in good enough shape to run a mile, etc. some girls will be able to meet the standards. Those that meet the standards should be hired. If not, then they had their shot but couldn’t cut it. It’s not discrmination if they just can’t cut it.

Remember too, lots of men don’t make it through the basic training programs either. Are we going to say they were discrminated against due to being men???


25 posted on 07/26/2014 8:01:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Coming soon to US Army Special Forces, and US Navy SEALS.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 8:03:32 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Ah yes, the soft bigotry of low expectations.


27 posted on 07/26/2014 8:07:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
First of all, isn't there an age limit to be hired? It's usually 29 or 30, unless you have military time to apply. She's 39.

This person is a danger to herself, the other firefighters, and the public. More than likely, there's a job requirement that you must be 100% fit for duty, and she isn't. The article claims she was injured on-the-job, which in this case, she was injured while at the academy. She's been on light duty, but according to rules and regulations, she must be fit to return to full duty within a certain time frame. And if she is returned to full duty, she should be made to return to the academy, and complete the required qualifications. It sounds like she's planning on a career in disability.

28 posted on 07/26/2014 8:08:44 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Qualifications of any sort are discriminatory. Liberals are horrified by ANY discrimination at all, not because of the possible damage to people’s “rights” but because humans are to be totally interchangeable undifferentiated cogs in the societal machine. A cog malfunctions. Destroy it and replace it with the next cog from the box.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 8:09:41 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: SteveH

Where ‘da white women at?


30 posted on 07/26/2014 8:10:46 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

“a career in disability”

That’s a whole industry in New York city. A few years ago they uncovered 100% of retired Long Island railroad workers were on disability. Punching tickets is a hazardous job you know, all that wrist action.


31 posted on 07/26/2014 8:19:24 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I guess what the NYFD is saying is that black women aren’t capable of meeting the requirements on their own ability. Pathetic!


32 posted on 07/26/2014 8:57:53 AM PDT by boycott
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To: smokingfrog

It gets better. Once hired, her supervisors will write evaluation reports with phrases like: “well respected by her peers,” “an outstanding individual with leadership potential,” “a role model for our young people.” And in time, she will be promoted over people who are more qualified physically and academically. She will think she did it on her own.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 8:59:01 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: boycott

The soft bigotry of low expectations....didn’t a former Texas governor / POTUS say that....?


34 posted on 07/26/2014 9:03:12 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Sometimes a sense of entitlement starts with the name. Give a child an almost unpronounceable almost unspellable name, and wear it like a chip on the shoulder, daring someone to say this made up name “wrong”. Those who say it ‘wrong’ are subjected to public dressing down lectures from the Mom, and later from the suddenly empowered ‘victim’ of the offense. My guess is she’s been this way all her life, selfish, vain, and myopic, expecting the world to conform to her needs vs the other way around.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 9:06:04 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Why did I bother? I wasted time going to the site even though I knew before hand this was going to be about skin color and not really about qualifications....


36 posted on 07/26/2014 9:15:29 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: smokingfrog
But the over-the-hill Doirin failed to meet the required time, taking more than 18 minutes to huff-and-puff her way across the finish line.

No problem. I'm sure the fire will give her extra time to rescue any babies from a burning building. If it doesn't, it just goes to show the fire dept is a construct of white privilege.

37 posted on 07/26/2014 9:17:39 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: sheana

I have a friend who calls herself a conservative feminist. She tells her daughters they can be anything they want to be.

Your post just serves to prove that, no-—in reality, they really can’t.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 10:28:34 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: smokingfrog

I would sure like to find that famous video of the females trying out for the LAFD, it was hilarious.


39 posted on 07/26/2014 3:26:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Soon this will be the new US Army standards too.


40 posted on 07/26/2014 3:36:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

common practice.

Leftist org sues for whatever reason, politicians settle and make big payout.

This is one of the major funders of leftist groups as well as grants and other things.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 3:37:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: smokingfrog

Need to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Communist saying.

It doesn’t matter how many people have to die for the cause.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 3:38:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

He also paid out $40 million to the Central park rapists even though every indication exists that says they were guilty. Imagine that, you or your sister, daughter, mother or wife is raped, and this piece of rat slime pays the rapists $40 million bucks. How evil is that crap?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/20/justice/new-york-central-park-five/

Ann Coulter wrote a good column on this last month, I absolutely agree with her.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-04-23.html


43 posted on 07/26/2014 4:51:19 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: mass55th

44 posted on 07/26/2014 5:52:34 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

thanks for the link


45 posted on 07/26/2014 8:08:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

ever heard of “Pigford” ?


46 posted on 07/26/2014 8:09:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

From the article at link...

Doirin said she was one of several candidates — both male and female — whose ailments prevented them from completing the course, and who were still brought aboard and given light-duty jobs.


47 posted on 07/26/2014 8:15:19 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Hulka

No not in Texas. I am in a large county in Califonia. We have ove 400 people in our couny fie dept.


48 posted on 07/27/2014 6:11:22 AM PDT by sheana
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To: CatherineofAragon

Has nothing to do with being a feminist. Anyone wih any ains should realize that physically most women cannot do the same job as a man.


49 posted on 07/27/2014 6:13:32 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
"Has nothing to do with being a feminist. Anyone wih any ains should realize that physically most women cannot do the same job as a man."

You would think. I don't understand why a conservative woman would apparently buy into the lie that women are somehow inequal or inferior because we are DIFFERENT.

50 posted on 07/27/2014 7:59:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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