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Outrage at ESPN host who suggested women should try not to 'provoke' men into beating them...
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Posted on 07/26/2014 2:47:00 PM PDT by TigerClaws

An ESPN host has been taken to task by one of his own colleagues for comments he made during a discussion of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice's two-game suspension for allegedly knocking out his fiancee.

The punishment has been criticized as too lenient for such an act, but Stephen A. Smith made an ill-advised attempt to come at the issue from both sides during a First Take segment Friday.

Ray Rice was captured on camera knocking his then-fiancee (now wife) unconscious at an Atlantic City casino and dragging her limp body from the elevator.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706350/ESPN-host-subject-withering-Twitter-backlash-colleague-suggesting-women-try-not-provoke-men-beating-them.html#ixzz38c6eYUAC Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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A white man stupid enough to say this would have been fired already.
1 posted on 07/26/2014 2:47:00 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Wasn’t it ESPN who fired Rush?


2 posted on 07/26/2014 2:48:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: TigerClaws

ESPN is obviously breeding absolute fruitcakes. Like Keith Olbermann (remember him?). Obviously the place needs to be cleaned out like a nest of vipers.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 2:50:30 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Wasn’t it ESPN who fired Rush?

Yea, and too racist to be allowed ownership in an NFL team........LOL!

4 posted on 07/26/2014 2:52:33 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: TigerClaws

Well, observing that many sports figures and their sex partners are trash would be too honest.


5 posted on 07/26/2014 2:52:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Ace and I used to (with emphasis on used) live next to Section 8 housing, and you should have heard the rant from women against men, usually involving alcohol, that would lead to fights. No excuse, but it’s a valid point.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 2:54:27 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (Proud grandpa of a newly born "Brit Chick" named Poppy Loucks!)
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To: TigerClaws

I knew a long time but retired small town police chief. He once told me that a lot of women would purposely push their husband until he finally lost control and hit them. Then they would take him to the cleaners.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 2:54:53 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“Wasn’t it ESPN who fired Rush?”

Yes, because he’s white.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 2:55:01 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: TigerClaws

This guy didn’t say anything wrong.


9 posted on 07/26/2014 2:55:39 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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10 posted on 07/26/2014 2:56:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: TigerClaws

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3185142/posts

“But as a man who was raised by women, see I know what I’m going to do if somebody touches a female member of my family. I know what I’m going to do, I know what my boys are going to do. I know what, I’m going to have to remind myself that I work for the Worldwide Leader, I’m going to have to get law enforcement officials involved because of what I’m going to be tempted to do.”

“But what I’ve tried to employ the female members of my family, some of who you all met and talked to and what have you, is that again, and this what, I’ve done this all my life, let’s make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions, because if I come, or somebody else come, whether it’s law enforcement officials, your brother or the fellas that you know, if we come after somebody has put their hands on you, it doesn’t negate the fact that they already put their hands on you. So let’s try to make sure that we can do our part in making sure that doesn’t happen.”


11 posted on 07/26/2014 2:56:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The guy said nothing wrong.


12 posted on 07/26/2014 2:57:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
It does seem rather like common sense to avoid provoking someone into beating you up.

Same advise holds true for smaller guys in bars.

13 posted on 07/26/2014 3:02:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: GeronL
The guy said nothing wrong.

Agreed.

14 posted on 07/26/2014 3:05:55 PM PDT by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence. /S)
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To: Stentor

Ike Turner got a bad rap as well.


15 posted on 07/26/2014 3:07:49 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

ESPN has become a liberal politics network. Sports are secondary.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 3:08:07 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: TigerClaws
knocking his then-fiancee (now wife)

Houston we have a problem........She married the creep after he coldcocked her? Some people just do not know what is good for them. She should been out of his life forever after that.

17 posted on 07/26/2014 3:09:37 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: TigerClaws

In the guys’s (very) partial defense, I’d like to cite Erin Pizzey. She was the inventor of the idea of domestic shelters for women and children, and was for a long time a hero of feminists.

Then she strayed off the plantation by publishing her findings that many women in abusive relationships were addicts to the rush of emotional violence and in her opinion precipitated the episodes something over 50% of the time. This allowed the addict to violent emotions to cycle through anticipation, the extreme emotions of the violence, the abject apologies of her mate and the sympathy of all about her. Whereupon the cycle repeats itself, ad nauseum.

In Pizzey’s opinion, formed over a very long time and interviews with thousands of women, something close to 2/3 of the women who were abused by their mates fit into this group.

Which is not to say that there aren’t many women who don’t and are closer to the classic victim of the bad dude of the feminist story. I had a family member in this group. Her (large) husband beat her repeatedly and badly, until several of us had a discussion with him in which it was pointed out that he’d find it difficult to beat her with his arms and legs broken. Never laid a finger on her again, left her a few months later, and a year or so later she married a very nice man.

OTOH, about 20 years my best friend from high school married a nice lady with three young daughters. She had recently left an abusive husband. He adored her and treated her like a queen and her daughters like princesses. Five years later she left him because he was “boring.” A couple of years after that she married for the third time, to a guy who apparently beats her up regularly.

Wiki: “Pizzey distinguishes between “genuine battered women” and “violence-prone women;” the former defined as “the unwilling and innocent victim of his or her partner’s violence” and the latter defined as “the unwilling victim of his or her own violence.” This study reports that 62% of the sample population were more accurately described as “violence prone.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey#Overview

This is course contradicted the feminists’ men-bad, women-helpless victims essential myth. She was drummed out of the movement, was harassed, family members threatened, her dog even killed. She had to flee the UK for North America.

Which kind of relationship the couple in question had I do not know. Nor do I approve of men beating up women under any circumstances, but I do know that the story is often a lot more murky than the feminist myths would lead you to believe.


18 posted on 07/26/2014 3:10:04 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Fox Sports Radio is worse!


19 posted on 07/26/2014 3:11:06 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TigerClaws

She’s such a poor little innocent lamb.

http://heavy.com/news/2014/02/ray-rice-fiancee-girlfriend-janay-palmer/

“Janay Palmer allegedly spit in Rice’s face”

“Janay Palmer arrested and charged with domestic violence.”

“On May 23,2013 Palmer said sorry for “the role [she] played in the incident that night.”

“In August 2010, Palmer was arrested, accused of stealing a $1,000 dress from a mall in Baltimore. She was found guilty and given probation on top of a $400 fine. She said at the time.”


20 posted on 07/26/2014 3:14:17 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Ike Turner got a bad rap as well.

Don't know about that or this Rice character but Stephen A is getting a bad rap. He should, however, taken his own advice and kept his mouth shut.

21 posted on 07/26/2014 3:14:51 PM PDT by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence. /S)
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To: TigerClaws

Nothing wrong with that he said.

Nothing....


22 posted on 07/26/2014 3:17:49 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Sherman Logan

Well, that explains my previous post. I will never understand people being addicted to getting beat up. You cannot get any more pathetic than that.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 3:18:10 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: TigerClaws

It’s amazing how ESPN managed to get so many morons together in one place.


24 posted on 07/26/2014 3:18:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Womans Be Thinkin’ Too Much.”


25 posted on 07/26/2014 3:23:38 PM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: TigerClaws

What do you say to a woman with two black eyes?

Nothing, you’ve already told her twice.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 3:23:54 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: TigerClaws
Used to be a time when, right or wrong, a man could speak his mind freely. He might take some heat over what he had to say but nobody ever denied him the right to say it.

Nowadays, we have these "witch hunts" against anybody who says anything at all that might be controversial or considered "politically incorrect."

If I recall correctly, this nonsense started back in the 1980s when Howard Cosell made some innocent comment on Monday Night Football about a black football player breaking loose for a touchdown and all hell broke loose. Soon thereafter, you had others run out of the business for not being politically correct on TV (oddsmaker "Jimmy the Greek" comes to mind).

Are we a better society now than we were back then? I'm not so sure. Up until the mid 1980s, I saw race and sex relations improving and it seemed that racism was about to go away for good. Now I feel like I am on eggshells whenever I am around black people or women in the workplace because I don't want to inadvertently offend them and have my career ruined.

We are not as free as we used to be.

27 posted on 07/26/2014 3:26:44 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: TigerClaws
So that's why the NFL suspended Mrs. Rice from attending games. :)
28 posted on 07/26/2014 3:27:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: yarddog
I knew a long time but retired small town police chief. He once told me that a lot of women would purposely push their husband until he finally lost control and hit them. Then they would take him to the cleaners.

Women's Lib: what horse manure.

29 posted on 07/26/2014 3:27:12 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL

I agree.

A lot of women seem to be of the opinion they are beyond reproach simply becuase they are female. I personally know of situations where the female deliberately pushed the male (especially when they know which ‘buttons’ to push) to the breaking point for various reasons. Those reasons ranged from simple revenge to looking for a litigation payday.

Generally, hitting a nerve like he did usually means the truth was told, and some people can’t handle the truth, so they try to destroy you instead.


30 posted on 07/26/2014 3:27:16 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: TigerClaws

Ladies/women with a modicum of, certainly with a lot of, class know that a gentleman, especially a man with physical strength combined with strength of character, raised by a god woman of a mother, would never just not ever hit a woman, under any circumstances.

Those are the guys ‘who have luck’. Everyone else is a d

Ask any special ops guy


31 posted on 07/26/2014 3:30:50 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Sherman Logan

Let me say first, some guys have an insane hair trigger temper that is set off by, pretty much, Nothing. OTOH, an ex friend’s ex hub has said (she divorced two others for hitting her) “I never hit her myself, but i can see why some others would”.


32 posted on 07/26/2014 3:32:24 PM PDT by Bethaneidh
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To: All

the whole premise is that the women who are supposedly strong enough to be a police officer and take down bad guys,
or fight in combat roles, or go toe to toe in boardroom brawls, in actuality need special protections.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 3:35:10 PM PDT by willywill
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To: MichaelCorleone

Domestic violence laws have nothing to do with domestic violence. They are about control. About women being in control of men and cops being in control of both.

What ever happened to assault and battery if a woman is beaten by her husband/boyfriend?


34 posted on 07/26/2014 3:36:25 PM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: TigerClaws

He was talking about how black women need their ass beat sometimes, or maybe just jacked up a little. What’s a black man to do? Show her the pimp hand that’s what!!


35 posted on 07/26/2014 3:40:27 PM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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To: TigerClaws

I was going to say...imagine if Skip Bayless had said it.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 3:41:40 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: RichInOC; TigerClaws

Skip Bayless? ESPN employs that hack fraud??


37 posted on 07/26/2014 3:43:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, he does point-counterpoint with Stephen A.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 3:44:55 PM PDT by RichInOC (...Phi Kappa Sigma, Beta Rho '87..."Is this right?" "Try not to drool so much at the end of it.")
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To: Balding_Eagle

Today is my last day with Comcast. I won’t be tempted to watch ESPN anymore. I’ll be using an antenna. Anyone have any recommendations?


39 posted on 07/26/2014 3:51:45 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: willywill

Sounds a bit hypocritical, that’s for sure. Or is it more like creating an environment where ‘heads I win; tails you lose’?


40 posted on 07/26/2014 3:58:45 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Sorry, can’t help.

I live out in the country, and fortunate enough to be in line of sight of a microwave tower, so I get all the internet I can possibly use for $50.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 4:18:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: TigerClaws

42 posted on 07/26/2014 4:20:02 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: SamAdams76

I just had to attend a workshop at work on “micro aggression” . Basically, white Christian men are evil, rude, racist, woman haters......because.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 4:55:05 PM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Yea. Turn it off and toss in the trash.


44 posted on 07/26/2014 4:56:55 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: TigerClaws

many women admit in surveys they goad men on when verbally arguing. they admit they also start physical fights by throwing the first punch or shove.

seen it posted here in thge past.


45 posted on 07/26/2014 5:29:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

Obviously women should be able to say anything they want with no consequences and

Clearly, purposely pushing people’s buttons and saying extremely inflammatory, hateful, or hurtful things to them should have no consequences (if you are a woman).


46 posted on 07/26/2014 6:50:50 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: TigerClaws

Women need a good beating from time to time. Keeps them in line and lets them know where their place is - in the kitchen. -men of freerepublic


47 posted on 07/26/2014 7:01:44 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: TigerClaws

A man trying to argue with a woman is like a woman trying to arm-wrestle a man.


48 posted on 07/26/2014 7:04:21 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: skeeter

49 posted on 07/26/2014 7:10:16 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: TigerClaws

I was on a jury some years ago, an alleged domestic violence trial. One of the questions we were asked during voir dire was whether we believed that a woman could instigate the domestic violence.

I don’t recall what I answered, but in the end, we acquitted the guy of the charges based on the fact that it was clear that she HAD instigated. That, and the prosecution’s main witness had a clear bias.

The point is, Stephen A. Smith, who also went off on ESPN this week in Tony Dungy’s defense, mistook truth for the political correct world that is the lame stream these days.


50 posted on 07/26/2014 7:11:35 PM PDT by ssaftler (I am both ashamed and afraid of my government, Federal AND State. Local not far behind...)
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