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Destroy Hamas? Something worse would follow: Pentagon intel chief
Tide Water Review ^ | 7-26-2014

Posted on 07/26/2014 7:47:19 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

(Reuters) - A top Pentagon intelligence official warned on Saturday that the destruction of Hamas would only lead to something more dangerous taking its place, as he offered a grim portrait of a period of enduring regional conflict.

The remarks by Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the outgoing head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, came as Israeli ministers signaled that a comprehensive deal to end the 20-day-old conflict in the Gaza Strip appeared remote.

At least 1,050 Gazans - mostly civilians - have been killed, and 42 Israeli soldiers and three civilians in Israel have died.

Flynn disparaged Hamas for exhausting finite resources and know-how to build tunnels that have helped them inflict record casualties on Israelis. Still, he suggested that destroying Hamas was not the answer.

"If Hamas were destroyed and gone, we would probably end up with something much worse. The region would end up with something much worse," Flynn said at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado.

"A worse threat that would come into the sort of ecosystem there … something like ISIS," he added, referring to the Islamic State, which last month declared an "Islamic caliphate" in territory it controls in Iraq and Syria.

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1 posted on 07/26/2014 7:47:19 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

So? That’s for the Palestinians to figure out.


2 posted on 07/26/2014 7:48:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Citizen Zed

What is another term for 1,050 dead Palisimians?

Answer: A small beginning.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 7:50:28 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: Citizen Zed
.... mostly civilians all were terrorists...

There. fixed it. Gaza = Hamas
4 posted on 07/26/2014 7:51:09 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Citizen Zed

Hamas, hezbolla, PLO, isis, a turd by any other name....


5 posted on 07/26/2014 7:52:02 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: GladesGuru

what makes this guy think hamas is any more benign than ISIS???


6 posted on 07/26/2014 7:53:02 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Citizen Zed

Then you destroy that.
And so on until you destroy Islam.

Islam delenda est.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 7:53:37 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Citizen Zed

Did he convert at the same time as Grover?


8 posted on 07/26/2014 7:55:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Citizen Zed
“A worse threat that would come into the sort of ecosystem there … something like ISIS,”

ISIS only exists because the Obama Administration armed, trained organized and funded it with U.S. dollars. Terrorist organizations don't just “come into the sort of ecosystem.”

Terrorist organizations need to be organized, led, armed and funded. There needs to be powerful people behind it.

9 posted on 07/26/2014 7:55:25 PM PDT by detective
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To: Citizen Zed
This is BS. All the most extreme Islamic terrorist movements are already on the move, world wide. WE have to destroy every single element we find, every single one. The only countries really battling them now is, by coincidence, Israel, Egypt, Iraq and ...Syria. Remove HAMAS now!
10 posted on 07/26/2014 7:55:26 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Citizen Zed
A top Pentagon intelligence official warned on Saturday that the destruction of Hamas would only lead to something more dangerous taking its place...

Announced at ceremonies where he accepted the Obama Bed-wetter Award which comes with a lifetime supply of Depends.

11 posted on 07/26/2014 7:55:41 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

“A worse threat that would come into the sort of ecosystem there … something like ISIS,”

Well, smoke them, too.


12 posted on 07/26/2014 7:55:50 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Assinine. Hama’s and others want to exterminate Jews. Hamask is the proximate threat. First things first.


13 posted on 07/26/2014 7:57:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Newsflash: ISIS is headed there. You think they will co-exist peacefully with Israel?


14 posted on 07/26/2014 7:58:39 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Citizen Zed

So, all out destruction of Islam, is out? Dang. Well, maybe later, when the “time outs”, ARE NO LONGER VIABLE.


15 posted on 07/26/2014 7:59:26 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Citizen Zed

“At least 1,050 Gazans - mostly civilians”
Talking points the media keeps repeating.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 8:01:15 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Citizen Zed
The remarks by Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the outgoing head of the Defense Intelligence Agency,

Who cares if he's outgoing or introverted, why is he providing covering fire for Hamas? Wouldn't the government of Israel be in a better position to make that determination?

17 posted on 07/26/2014 8:02:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: MNDude

I think the Israelis should bulldoze the whole place and turn it into a theme park. Something like Disney Levant.


18 posted on 07/26/2014 8:05:16 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Citizen Zed

Oh. So Michael Flynn figures that if Hamas were destroyed, an organization would emerge that would vow to destroy Israel TWICE???


19 posted on 07/26/2014 8:05:40 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Citizen Zed

A murderous terrorist gang armed and financed to the teeth ( by Obama and his islamoNazi pals like Iran and Qatar) and sworn to kill millions by any means possible -—— so what would be “ worse?” Anyway, I say kill them now - and we ‘ll see. Anything worse can then be eliminated then. Sufficient unto this day are the evils thereof.


20 posted on 07/26/2014 8:06:39 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Sherman Logan; Star Traveler

PING


21 posted on 07/26/2014 8:07:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Migraine

Why is Hasan still alive?

Why have his supporters NOT BEEN ROOTED OUT?


22 posted on 07/26/2014 8:07:57 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Citizen Zed

Worse than Hamas..what could be worse than Hamas..the Obama Administration? That’s the only thing that could be worse


23 posted on 07/26/2014 8:08:34 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Texas Eagle

LOL!


24 posted on 07/26/2014 8:08:59 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Netz

It’s like any major infection. It will grow exponentially until it overtakes the host... that is in the absence of action.

At some point we will have to head it off and the sooner the better! We have already missed the bud stage and Iran has gone nuclear Yep, past tense.


25 posted on 07/26/2014 8:09:01 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Citizen Zed

So ensuring regional conflict is what we should be trying to avoid, allow Hamas to continue to exist? I hate to break it to him, but enduring regional conflict is what we have now with Hamas. It is in their very charter.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 8:10:30 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Citizen Zed
Hamas = Obama's Family = US State Dept = Lois Lerner
all allied with Qatar, Turkey, Iran and N. Korea.


New Inconsistencies with Malik Obama’s IRS Paperwork Revealed on Eve of Hearing
the date stamped at the top of the Barack H. Obama Foundation’s 501(c)(3) approval letter
which bears Lerner’s signature, is dated June 26, 2011. That day was on a Sunday.

Lois Lerner approved tax exempt status for foundation
operated by Obama's half-brother on a Sunday

Deleted IRS Emails may be about Obama’s Brother
There is sufficient cause to believe that one of the reasons for
this digital document shredding may have something to do with
President Barack Obama’s brother, Malik Obama,
founder of the Barack H. Obama Foundation (BHOF).

Pictured: Obama’s half-brother wearing Hamas scarf that boasts ‘Jerusalem is ours—WE ARE COMING’

Obama’s Brother Joins Hamas, Wears Scarf Saying ‘Jerusalem Is Ours; We Are Coming’

Barack Obama’s Brother Malik Joins Hamas Terrorist Group

Obama appoints Hamas supporter who called Israelis Nazis to commission on religious freedom

CIA finds 1 in 5 flagged job applicants hail from Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda

Al-Qaeda, Hamas operatives applied for CIA jobs, say new Snowden files

Obama Officials Met with Hamas, Discussed Removing it from Terror List

Summer Camp: Hamas Teaches Children to Kill and Kidnap Israelis

U.S. Muslim Brotherhood/Hamas Support Leader Chosen By Syrian Opposition

Ninth Lesson From the Gaza War: Hamas Will Use Humanitarian Aid for Evil

Will Obama Snatch Defeat from the Jaws of Victory Over Hamas?

Obama to the rescue – of Hamas

The Southern Poverty Law Center Stands Up for Hamas

State Dept: U.S. Supports Palestinian Unity Government (Hamas)

Report: US Holding Backroom Talks with Hamas ‘For Months’

U.S. held secret meeting with Hamas, Terrorist regime still won't recognize Israel's right to exist

Former FBI Agent Says Leading Muslim Group a ‘Hamas Front’ (CAIR)

27 posted on 07/26/2014 8:11:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Diogenesis

If you mean the Ft Hood asshole, I’ve got to agree with you there.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 8:11:36 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Diogenesis

Damn AND double-damn! That looks like the bastard he’s named after!


29 posted on 07/26/2014 8:12:57 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Citizen Zed

One of the stupidest things I ever heard.


30 posted on 07/26/2014 8:13:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (How many Islamists would be left by next year if we made war the way they do?)
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To: Migraine; a fool in paradise

Th admin is admitting that the Palestinian people support terrorism, sounds like to me.

The Palestinians would all join ISIS?


31 posted on 07/26/2014 8:14:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: detective

They admit the Palestinian people are not peace-loving moderates and would get worse if Hamas were destroyed?


32 posted on 07/26/2014 8:15:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Citizen Zed

Tragic for our country that this is our so called best and brightest.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 8:22:11 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Citizen Zed

Yeah, look at what the world ended up with after the Nazis were dealt with.


34 posted on 07/26/2014 8:22:59 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: EternalVigilance

This regime is redefining stupidity every day.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 8:28:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Citizen Zed

At least 1,050 Gazans - mostly civilians. Terrorists are civs.

This guy is a dunce. Scared of some Juju man out of his personal pesadillas. Hamas needs destroying. Kill it all the way dead.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 8:33:44 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Citizen Zed

Wimps.


37 posted on 07/26/2014 8:36:30 PM PDT by bgill
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To: detective

Bingo and don’t forget Obama simply ruining the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. We should have had all twelve US military bases and stayed in Iraq for a half century to normalize them. They’d be a second front of liberty in the ME.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 8:37:48 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jonty30

I’m pretty sure the next group will bleed red too.


39 posted on 07/26/2014 8:37:54 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Diogenesis

Nobody in American history has done more to help radical Islam than Obama. Carter is a distant 2nd place.


40 posted on 07/26/2014 8:39:30 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: freedomfiter2

Well, the communists killed more people than the Nazis, but they had more time.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 8:40:18 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Citizen Zed

Sounds to me like one of Obama’s princes is issuing a veiled threat.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 8:56:15 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Citizen Zed

Destroy that too. When will the moronic elitists in the west accept the fact that it’s either us or them.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 9:20:02 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Confined in the crowded, sandy coast enclave of 1.8 million, where poverty and unemployment hover around 40 percent, weary Gazans say they hope the battle will break the blockade that Israel and Egypt impose on them.

Uhm, the people are poor and unemployed because of terrorism. The blockades exist because of terrorism. Renounce terror and money flows via free markets. I mean these dunces spent all their funds on tunnels and rockets, not infrastructure and education. Duh.

44 posted on 07/26/2014 9:23:17 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I hope this flynn jerk isn’t representative of the US military...what a weak sister.


45 posted on 07/26/2014 9:34:54 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: 1010RD

Asking them to renounce terrorism ? But as Mohammadans, that’s their entire reason for being. They’d have to give up their political death cult.


46 posted on 07/26/2014 9:37:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Citizen Zed

Just like when we destroyed the Third Reich, right general?


47 posted on 07/26/2014 9:40:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Time to finish this once and for all.

It would be the best for both sides.


48 posted on 07/26/2014 9:49:02 PM PDT by Bobalu (Israel is the most long-suffering and peace loving nation on Earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; MeshugeMikey; Citizen Zed

Interesting logic.

Let’s see if I understand this.

We should never fight to destroy an enemy because the next enemy might be worse.

Just one problem. If you don’t fight them, they then become the next worse thing anyway, emboldened by the lack of resistance.

It’s kind of like how we didn’t finish off Al Quaeda in Iraq, so they then became ISIS once they knew we were out of the fight. The thing we didn’t kill became the worse thing that would have followed it anyway, only sooner.

(Nuclear weapons are so much simpler.)


49 posted on 07/26/2014 9:55:15 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Citizen Zed
The let's just see what happens after Hamas is obliterated. Perhaps something worse may replace them, perhaps not.

To stand by and allow themselves to be continually attacked by Hamas with rockets is absurd. To suggest they refrain from annihilating Hamas lest something worse take its place is advice that smacks of pure cowardice, and absolutely expected from any agency that has been corrupted by the current administration.

It may not necessarily be straightforward cowardice that is being projected from the Pentagon with such a proclamation, but it's completely expected from the marxist ideology that has been imposed upon the Pentagon by the current administration.

50 posted on 07/26/2014 10:09:17 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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