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French father tried for ordering daughter's killer kidnapped from Germany
Montreal Gazette ^ | 27 July 2014 | AP

Posted on 07/27/2014 8:46:00 AM PDT by ameribbean expat

PARIS - A 76-year-old Frenchman has gone on trial for taking justice into his own hands after a decades-long mission to avenge his daughter's death.

Andre Bamberski is accused of ordering the kidnapping five years ago in Germany of retired doctor Dieter Krombach, who was tied up and dumped near a French courthouse to face charges in the 1982 death of Bamberski's 15-year-old daughter, Kalinka. Krombach was the girl's stepfather.

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1 posted on 07/27/2014 8:46:00 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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German doctor administers drug to French man’s daughter, with the intent, and commission of an act of rape.

I’d say the doctor is in deep doo-doo, and kudos to the restraint shown by the French father, for not exacting natural justice.


2 posted on 07/27/2014 8:51:25 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

Sounds like the plot to a Jason Statham movie.


3 posted on 07/27/2014 8:53:11 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: ameribbean expat

There are some jobs that shouldn’t be subcontracted out.


4 posted on 07/27/2014 8:57:00 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ameribbean expat

Why didn’t he just kill the German? A lot more tidy


5 posted on 07/27/2014 8:57:04 AM PDT by montag813
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Give him less time in prison (if he’s imprisoned at all) than the doctor got for the OTHER girl he drugged and raped!!


6 posted on 07/27/2014 9:03:45 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Dad should have taken out the bastard who killed this beautiful young girl himself...

7 posted on 07/27/2014 9:05:18 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ameribbean expat

He should get an award for doing what Interpol would not or could not!


8 posted on 07/27/2014 9:06:45 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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According to Wikipedia, he was given a one-year suspended jail sentence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalinka_Bamberski_case

9 posted on 07/27/2014 9:12:18 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: ameribbean expat
1997 conviction for drugging and raping a 16-year-old girl in his office. He pleaded guilty, and got a two-year suspended sentence.

I don't understand how you can get a slap on the wrist for such a crime. I can understand some leniency because he confessed, but to serve no jail time is criminal.

Does anybody understand the German mindset that considers rape so lightly?

The only thing good I can say about the doctor is that he learned between 1982 and 1997 how to administer the drug without killing the girl.

10 posted on 07/27/2014 9:16:10 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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He was probably going to torture him. No reason to keep him alive otherwise.


11 posted on 07/27/2014 9:19:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Terry L Smith

Similar to my thoughts... need an example of the difference between Western and Muslim civilization? The rule of law is either important or it isn’t. No honor killing here, simply a demand that a court do its job.

And he acted in a manner which I happen to support. I think things have gotten too cerebral. Too much paperwork. Too easy to pass the buck on down the line. I’ve been reading David Bromwich’s new biography of Edmund Burke. Struck by how George III was using cushy-job-well-paying-ministries-positions to compromise the establishment and keep Parliament on the defensive. Sounds all too familiar.


12 posted on 07/27/2014 9:23:30 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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I always dislike the term "You can't take the law into your own hands" - just who owns this "law"? - if the courts don't dispense it then what?

I believe in the Law until it interferes with Justice.

13 posted on 07/27/2014 9:24:59 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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These are the kinds of things that can happen when the legal system is corrupt. If it’s a jury trial, he walks. If it’s a star chamber, he goes to prison. I don’t know how it works in the EU, but I’d bet dollars to doughnut holes it is a star chamber.


14 posted on 07/27/2014 9:26:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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I don't understand how you can get a slap on the wrist for such a crime.

I think a lot of it depends upon how much money you have to "redistribute." Pretty much like here in the US of A.

15 posted on 07/27/2014 9:28:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I was trying to remember the French criminal justice system. I believe judges are much more prominent there, than juries, but I can’t remember if that only relates to pretrial procedure or runs through the entire matter.


16 posted on 07/27/2014 9:28:52 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: SkyDancer
I always dislike the term "You can't take the law into your own hands"...

From the US "Declaration of Independence"

"To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

That means "the law" starts in our own hands; we then delegate the powers to implement it to the government.

To say "you can't take the law into your own hands" makes no more sense than to say "If you've hired someone to mow your lawn, and they don't do a good job, you can't take lawn-mowing into your own hands".

17 posted on 07/27/2014 9:34:50 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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The Wiki page is confusing. In one line they say the girl’s stepfather was the German Doctor accused of killing her.
Elsewhere, this is contradicted, but never corrected.
The coroner’s report shows that the ‘girls’ genitals were removed and have never been found’. I didn’t know that was possible with a female without leaving a very conspicuous open cavity in the front of the body.


18 posted on 07/27/2014 9:36:26 AM PDT by lee martell
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OMG...horrifying!


19 posted on 07/27/2014 9:37:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ameribbean expat

In Texas, we would sentence the doctor to death, and the girl’s dad would be ‘Father of the Year’.


20 posted on 07/27/2014 9:45:57 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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